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[–]HibikiBlackCaudillo 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

You are missing the point. The good authorities historically fought back. Libertarianism is what got us into the capitalist hell.

[–]FlippyKing 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

The last good authorities I can think of are Leo XIII or Pius X.

I don't think I'm missing the point at all. Good authorities are nothing without trust, otherwise they are just writers. There is not trust, and no reason to extend it outside your neighborhood and certainly no reason to extend it beyond your own ability to reason.

I'm still asking, who are these philosophers you want us to listen to? Aquinas? He's good.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

The good authorities historically fought back.

The "good" authorities were still scum and exploited the people. They only quibble about how much corruption and how badly they treat the masses. Whether it was Jefferson with his slaves or Musk with his tech, none of them lead bottom-up fair organizations.

[–]HibikiBlackCaudillo 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Ay please. People in the protestant nations were happy as fuck before the masonic revolutions.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (8 children)

Riiiiiiight. So all the wars in Europe's history were just grand ol' times.

[–]HibikiBlackCaudillo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

You don't like the protestants? Despite our violent history, we've had our fair share of good and bad Caudillos in our history in Venezuela.

But either way, I think centralized and decentralized systems can work, but I think a lot of the ideals that Libertarians tend to follow are rather utopian. I don't trust people to resist the technocratic influence of society like to think a descentralized system can even work under the conditions we are in without getting rid of the government.

And yeah, historically, Libertarianism was the ideology that created the capitalist mess we are in.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

You are arguing in BAD FAITH with bullshit strawmen and moving the goalposts.

It's NOT about protestants, or Venezuela, or any other bullshit. The OP is about Trudeau, and I shit on your love of authority. Go fuck yourself and your timesuck word salads.

Return to authenticity and develop solutions or get the fuck out of our way with your nay-saying and negativity.

[–]HibikiBlackCaudillo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Haha. It's not so much bad faith. I'm just teasing that's all. I find it funny to argue with you because I noticed we are almost complete opposites in many ways.

I hate when people bend history to their will and think people shouldn't ignore it intentionally, even if you can't figure everything out. You seem to think It's not that important besides the lessons that can be learned from it.

I think history and knowledge can be possessed, you seem to think embracing the subjectivity of things make you strong.

I'm an authoritarian that hates Libertarianism and think it brings more harm than good, you think authorities are overall evil and want a communist system.

Sorry if I bothered you about it but I was just curious about the things that would cause a person to have such ideals.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

You seem to know nothing and know nothing about me while twisting things and peddling your bullshit.

[–]HibikiBlackCaudillo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Again, sorry if I took things too far. I just got curious that's all.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Fuck your apology as you now AGAIN try to spin it, into mild curiosity this time.

Apologize for enemy disinfo actions: shilling bullshit, foisting strawmen, and moving the goalposts.