LOL! WotB is totally dominating Saidit!

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[–]stickdog 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

LOL that WotB is now being suppressed even on the front page of Saidit.

[–]bucetao6969Im a guest here. Do not take my opinion as of a community member 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Everyone needs a fair shot.

[–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 9 insightful - 4 fun9 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 4 fun -  (10 children)

But not yet specifically suppressed. Saidit is an equal opportunity suppressor.

They suppress just about everybody.

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    [–]JasonCarswellWay Of The Burning Man 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

    I suspect most SaidItors know about and use the /s/All. WotB is disruptive to them, in a generally good way - for now. Ideally they'll learn to branch out and post in topical subs too.

    With pros and cons, it's the new folks who won't know about the /s/Subscribed and /s/All situation that the admin imposed upon us without consulting us, as usual. And this is, and always has been, the biggest problem of SaidIt - and is a main reason why SaidIt won't/can't grow.

    [–]BlackhaloPurity Pony: Pусский бот 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

    But it's not like WotB was ever a default sub on Reddit either. Seems like a non-issue to me. I can see /all in my header.

    [–]JasonCarswellWay Of The Burning Man 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

    The issue is that WotB may stay insulated in an echo chamber on SaidIt, akin to /s/TumblrInAction and /s/DebateAltRight - currently maintaining - and completely miss out on all the other topical subs and the wider community. When the wider community does better and grows, the entire site does better. When it's just little tribes, a few still remain but many of them have faded or died out or moved on.

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      [–]JasonCarswellWay Of The Burning Man 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      Your "regulars" definition applies to the groups I mentioned, and others - as well as the "larger" small SaidIt community. I visit other platforms but haven't found one to relocating to. Yet.

      [–]JasonCarswellWay Of The Burning Man 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      Your "regulars" definition applies to the groups I mentioned, and others - as well as the "larger" small SaidIt community. I visit other platforms but haven't found one to relocating to. Yet.

      [–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

      Well, look at it this way: they may actually be doing us WoTBers a favor, by leaving us off the front page until we get our bearings, so to speak.

      That is a reasonable way to look at it, except for one thing: Saidit leaves almost everybody off the front page, by design.

      You have to know to go to https://saidit.net/s/all to actually see everybody.

      [–]stickdog 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      Thanks for explaining that.

      [–]JasonCarswellWay Of The Burning Man 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      > Saidit leaves almost everybody off the front page, by design.

      This is a huge fucking problem, /u/magnora7.

      [–]sproketboy 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      Welcome aboard!

      [–]Newmug 6 insightful - 6 fun6 insightful - 5 fun7 insightful - 6 fun -  (6 children)

      WTF is WotB?

      [–]BISH 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

      WTF is WotB?

      Way of the Bern.

      It's similar to WOW, but more similar to the popular WOWOW. The Warcraft Sequel Lets You Play A Character Playing Warcraft.

      [–]InumaGaming Socialist 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

      Way of the Bern

      [–]hfxB0oyA 11 insightful - 7 fun11 insightful - 6 fun12 insightful - 7 fun -  (2 children)

      Not Wizards of the Boast, it turns out.

      [–]Musky 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

      RIP Dark Elves.

      [–]JasonCarswellWay Of The Burning Man 5 insightful - 6 fun5 insightful - 5 fun6 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

      Wench of the Bukaki

      [–]Newmug 2 insightful - 6 fun2 insightful - 5 fun3 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

      I see. D'oh!

      [–]Vulptex 15 insightful - 6 fun15 insightful - 5 fun16 insightful - 6 fun -  (140 children)

      Honestly, good. As much as I hate socialism, it's good to have more diversity of opinions. 99% of the people here before this are one of the same four things: libertarians, fascists, TERFs, and religious nuts. It gets boring in an echo-chamber, even if it's one I agree with, and it's not good intellectually; it stifles quality discussion. And there's just not enough people on this site in general either.

      Besides, Bernie Bros imo are usually honest people, only misguided. The rest of the DNC is all literal tankies who want to turn America into North Korea.

      [–]bucetao6969Im a guest here. Do not take my opinion as of a community member 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

      libertarians, fascists, TERFs, and religious nuts

      What?

      I haven't seen a single religious nut. In fact people here like bashing on jews.

      By TERF you mean people at genderCritical and tumblrInAction? TERF is not an appropriate term for that, it's woketoid dog whistle for anyone that doesn't think trans women belong in women's sports. I also don't take "there's fascists here" seriously, anything is a fascist these days apparently.

      How do the people at /s/LGBDroptheT, one of the largest communities around here that has been active for a long time fit into one of these 4?

      [–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      In fact people here like bashing on jews.

      It looks to me more like there is "one person," not "people."

      With a bunch of people responding with variants of "damn, dude."

      [–]bucetao6969Im a guest here. Do not take my opinion as of a community member 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      good point

      might be he just talks a lot

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        [–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

        I don't think anyone has the authority or knowledge or right to judge anyone else based on their beliefs.

        Just checking here... do they have the right to point out obvious internal contradictions in someone else's beliefs, when they see them?
        Not "judging" per se, but "you might want to look at this part a little more closely."

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            [–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

            As I said, just checking.

            [–]Vulptex 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

            There are a few religious nuts, and a few actual TERFs who hate men.

            There are actual fascists, check out /s/debatealtright. Fascists were really rare outside of Voat until about 3 years ago, when tankie rioters made everyone want to be one.

            /s/LGBDroptheT and /s/GenderCritical are controlled by TERFs. The reason I know this is because I and anyone who's male or empathizes with men in any way instantly gets banned. In practice only man-hating feminists are welcome.

            [–]risistill me 13 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

            We are not all socialists, only some of us. Some of us are conservatives; some of us self-identify as left of Democrats, but not (yet?) socialist. (That is where I am.) Most of us are former "Bernie bros." All of us are not still Bernie bros.

            IOW, we're not a monolith.

            [–]3andfro 15 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

            I see why the sub's name can be confusing. To clarify: this is not a socialist sub. It's a nonpartisan sub that generally recognizes the uniparty and its owners as the barriers to better things for regular folks. Here, most see the fight as the 1% vs. the rest (top down), not Left vs. Right or D vs. R.

            For a better understanding of this contrary place, take a look at the sidebar. Many here tune Bernie out since he kissed the ring of his good friend addled Joe.

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              [–]3andfro 10 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 3 fun -  (21 children)

              Just as important, tho, why would you ask, and why would you choose to use terms commonly recognized as slurs?

              [–]bucetao6969Im a guest here. Do not take my opinion as of a community member 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

              Some people here have a hard on for using slurs I guess.

              [–]Zapped 9 insightful - 8 fun9 insightful - 7 fun10 insightful - 8 fun -  (18 children)

              He has fat fingers. He meant to type "what's y'all's opinions on naggers and kites". He hates people constantly reminding him of his shortcomings and telling him to go fly a kite. /s

              [–]JasonCarswellWay Of The Burning Man 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (17 children)

              Wondering why it was censored?
              I don't like it, but don't like censorship more.
              This is not Reddit.

              /u/penelopepnortney

              [–]GoblinJ 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

              I like turtles

              I wasn't being a dick at all. They're just bringing reddit here. Saidit is already fucked at this rate.

              [–]captainramen🇺🇸🛠️ MAGA Communist 🛠️🇺🇸 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

              Really? If you said the n-word to a random stranger in real life what would happen to you? I have a pretty good idea!

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                [–]captainramen🇺🇸🛠️ MAGA Communist 🛠️🇺🇸 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

                Oh look, it's another anti social asshole that never actually goes outside or interacts with people in real life.

                You're no different than a crackhead who harasses people on the subway. And if someone rightfully kicked your ass you would shoot them. 'iT'S JuSt wORds.' Because they're the ones that lack self control, not you.

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                  [–]GoblinJ 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

                  Literally linked me to reddit post...holy fuck lol

                  I like turtles

                  But I fuckin hate redditors

                  [–]captainramen🇺🇸🛠️ MAGA Communist 🛠️🇺🇸 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                  I found this version on youtube but it's missing the best parts, like when he says OK OK after getting the shit beat out of him

                  [–]penelopepnortneyBecome ungovernable 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

                  We shell users for being a dick, which violates our one rule. They can still post but have to pay the turtle tax, i.e., add "I like turtles" to whatever they post.

                  [–]JasonCarswellWay Of The Burning Man 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

                  It's turtles all the way down

                  [–]BlackhaloPurity Pony: Pусский бот 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                  Those turtles look a bit dickish.

                  [–]penelopepnortneyBecome ungovernable 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

                  I think those turtles may be the ambrosia of the gods mentioned in mythology.

                  But just for the record, this was the inspiration for the nonsensical, apolitical turtle tax.

                  [–]Promyka5When in the course of human events... 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                  I didn't know about that! I'm laughing hysterically!

                  [–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                  Even better: It was a "placeholder" phrase, to be used until something better was thought up.

                  Almost seven years ago.

                  [–]JasonCarswellWay Of The Burning Man 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                  TIL.
                  Thanks.

                  [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

                  Did me telling you that we can say that send you off the deep end?

                  [–]GoblinJ 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                  Telling me what?

                  [–]Vulptex 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

                  Now most people hate them. But that wasn't the case until after the BLM riots, which was almost certainly a social engineering operation with exactly that intention.

                  [–]GoblinJ 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (8 children)

                  Based. we can be friends, even if y'all are a bunch of godless commies

                  [–]3andfro 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                  if y'all are a bunch of godless commies

                  Questionable powers of deduction. Perhaps you should read the first subhead of the sidebar, What Is WayOfTheBern?

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                    [–]captainramen🇺🇸🛠️ MAGA Communist 🛠️🇺🇸 10 insightful - 5 fun10 insightful - 4 fun11 insightful - 5 fun -  (1 child)

                    Too bad. We're BFFs now

                    [–]spindz 7 insightful - 5 fun7 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

                    Group hug! I see the Bern sense of humor has transplanted well here.

                    [–]Vulptex 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

                    I'm not a Bernie bro.

                    [–]BISH 4 insightful - 5 fun4 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 5 fun -  (2 children)

                    I'm not a Bernie bro

                    You're probably a Bernie non-man.

                    At least, according to the updated John Hopkins University definition .

                    [–]Vulptex 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

                    I don't like Bernie

                    [–]BISH 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                    Well you're in good company..
                    Neither do the "Bernie bros"...

                    [–]InumaGaming Socialist 13 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 2 fun -  (28 children)

                    Why do you keep bringing up such crude terminology?

                    [–]JasonCarswellWay Of The Burning Man 10 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

                    On this refuge for Reddit rejects of all sorts his type haunt SaidIt and are an unfortunate side effect of freedom of expression. Regardless, civil people do reside here interested in free-thinking, truth-seeking, and critical analysis on the corrupt levers of power. One day we may branch another semi-related forum that selectively filters out uncivil STABs (shills, trolls, and bots).

                    [–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

                    One day we may branch another semi-related forum that selectively filters out uncivil STABs (shills, trolls, and bots).

                    One day, a different remedy may arise.....

                    [–]InumaGaming Socialist 11 insightful - 5 fun11 insightful - 4 fun12 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

                    Nah, keep em.

                    We use em for catnip.

                    [–]GoblinJ 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

                    Bad words bad lol

                    Blacks and Jews. There. Can you answer the question now?

                    [–]Promyka5When in the course of human events... 16 insightful - 7 fun16 insightful - 6 fun17 insightful - 7 fun -  (5 children)

                    Blacks: some are really nice folks; some are just alright; some are assholes.

                    Jews: some are really nice folks; some are just alright; some are assholes.

                    Gays: some are really nice folks; some are just alright; some are assholes.

                    Asians: some are really nice folks; some are just alright; some are assholes.

                    Latinos: some are really nice folks; some are just alright; some are assholes.

                    Trans people: some are really nice folks; some are just alright; some are assholes.

                    Did I leave anyone out? Oh yeah, wait...

                    All human beings: some are really nice folks; some are just alright; some are assholes.

                    That should just about sum it up. Any questions?

                    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

                    Statistically this isn't the case. Blacks have a much higher ratio of assholes and this is their genetic disposition, they display antisocial behaviors all over the world at hugely outsized rates and it isn't something they can even change. Jews are similar, though their IQs are much higher and their antisocial behaviors are more sophisticated. They also have a grudge against Europeans going back 2000 years.

                    [–]Promyka5When in the course of human events... 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                    I'd be interested to read the research you neglected to cite in support of your assertions. Unless it comes directly out of your ass, of course.

                    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

                    If you have been living on the internet and haven't encountered the relevant statistics for black criminality and jewish hatred of Europeans then you should just leave and touch grass because you are uneducable.

                    [–]Promyka5When in the course of human events... 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                    But no specific link to specific statistics to support your specific claims. I guess I'll just take your word for it then.

                    note to self: Black... people... bad. Got it.

                    [–]shatabee5 16 insightful - 2 fun16 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

                    Race and religion are used to divide the lower classes and to divert from those who are the real problem, i.e., the oligarchs who run the wars, corrupt Congress and rob the Treasury.

                    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                    But what if the oligarchs are overwhelmingly jewish?

                    [–]InumaGaming Socialist 15 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

                    Why are you obsessed with race?

                    [–]hfxB0oyA 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                    It gets boring quickly, doesn't it?

                    [–]yaiyen 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

                    I think this is a bot or someone trying to take down saidit, i have seeing this same post some where else. If you look at that guy history, it read like undercover FBI agent

                    [–]BlackhaloPurity Pony: Pусский бот 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

                    Glowies abound. There are not enough actual right wing supremacists to justify the FBI, so they have to make do. But when Ukraine falls, they will just import those...

                    [–]spindz 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

                    I dunno about that. When Ukraine falls the survivors are unlikely to be US friends. If they do come here it will be for revenge.

                    [–]BlackhaloPurity Pony: Pусский бот 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                    Just what the FBI needs.

                    [–]GoblinJ 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

                    If saidit was gonna be taken down from saying niggers and kikes it would have been taken down a looooong time ago.

                    [–]shatabee5 9 insightful - 4 fun9 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

                    Your language is downright shocking...we are so shocked...so very, very shocked...

                    [–]JasonCarswellWay Of The Burning Man 5 insightful - 7 fun5 insightful - 6 fun6 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

                    Stop licking electrical outlets.

                    [–]InumaGaming Socialist 12 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

                    It's a 4channer. Usually, they love the crude remarks to get an instant rush of adrenaline when they trigger someone over anything of substance. I remember doing this stuff back in the day, it just gets old fast.

                    [–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

                    crude remarks to get an instant rush of adrenaline when they trigger someone over anything of substance.

                    Here's the problem:

                    Can't afford pearls.
                    Therefore, I cannot clutch them.

                    [–]InumaGaming Socialist 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

                    Yeah, we'll get their crude tactics but they eventually hit a brick wall on discourse.

                    [–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

                    They may have heard

                    The solution to bad speech is not less speech, it's more and better speech

                    But they have yet to see what that actually entails when implemented.

                    [–]InumaGaming Socialist 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

                    Either that or they like turtles

                    [–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

                    Or both.

                    [–]risistill me 6 insightful - 5 fun6 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

                    when they trigger someone over anything of substance

                    Dumbassery is not substantive.

                    [–]captainramen🇺🇸🛠️ MAGA Communist 🛠️🇺🇸 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (11 children)

                    You may not like socialism but it already won. Sorry!

                    [–]risistill me 4 insightful - 5 fun4 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 5 fun -  (2 children)

                    And I missed it?

                    And here I thought I was keeping up.

                    (In case you haven't guessed, this is redditrisi.)

                    [–]captainramen🇺🇸🛠️ MAGA Communist 🛠️🇺🇸 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

                    Welcome!

                    Apparently we all missed it. Every mode of production carries within it the seeds of its own destruction. For capitalism, the need for all these private (sovereign) individuals to coordinate their production efforts is too great and they are forced to cooperate. Human beings are social creatures after all.

                    This of course inevitably ends up in monopolies; the contradiction is, these monopolies are still in private hands.

                    To put it another way, if the government simply nationalized the internet, the electricity, the railways, the oil, the trees, and the water, who would even notice? Your day-to-day wouldn't change at all.

                    The revolution in the forces of production has already occurred.

                    [–]risistill me 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                    Welcome!

                    Thank you.

                    No government and/or worker ownership and control of (all) means of production = neither socialism nor revolution. ym obviously varies.

                    [–]BlackhaloPurity Pony: Pусский бот 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

                    Eh... Communism --> Socialism --> Capitalism --> Fascism.

                    It's a bit of a spectrum, from government owning the means of production, to the means of production owning the government. I'd argue that the sweet spot is somewhere in the middle with a mixed economy leading to max freedom.

                    [–]captainramen🇺🇸🛠️ MAGA Communist 🛠️🇺🇸 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

                    I mean you can think that but that bears little relation to ML theory. We say you either advance from ancient -> feudalism -> capitalism -> socialism or your society disappears like in the bronze age collapse. There is no going backwards, no matter how much we would like to. The only reason the capitalists deploy fascism is to prevent us from going forward.

                    Socialism with American Characteristics will put our civil liberties at its center.

                    [–]InumaGaming Socialist 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

                    You've been watching Caleb?

                    [–]captainramen🇺🇸🛠️ MAGA Communist 🛠️🇺🇸 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                    Not as much as Infrared but yeah

                    [–]Vulptex 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

                    Pretty much. Because the right is also socialist now.

                    [–]JasonCarswellWay Of The Burning Man 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

                    Nah. It's the worst of both.

                    Extremist capitalism + extremist socialism = totalitarianism.

                    [–]captainramen🇺🇸🛠️ MAGA Communist 🛠️🇺🇸 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                    Sort of. Everything is fucked up now because most people have already made the transition to socialism, and only the people at the top are resisting it. Same thing happened at the end of feudalism

                    [–]hfxB0oyA 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

                    ^ Jason knows what's up.

                    [–]Maniak🥃😾 19 insightful - 2 fun19 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 2 fun -  (28 children)

                    Quick clarifications for what it's worth:

                    • primary focus is to fuck over the establishment and its bullshit duopoly. Debates about socialism or any kind of -ism are secondary because none of it matters as long as everything is controlled by the same assholes, whether blue or red. It's top vs bottom first, left vs right can come later. And there will have to be a left again for this to happen anyway, which isn't the case currently. There's nothing 'leftist' about democrats.

                    • WotB has never been a "Bernie sub" filled with "Bernie Bros". It was always about the policies (healthcare, infrastructure, education, stopping the wars, throwing corrupt corporatist politicians out, all that) and was aligned with Bernie during his 2016 campaign because those were the policies he pretended to be willing to fight for. Given that he since abandoned all of those policies to instead focus on licking Biden's taint and pushing the BlueTeam™️ talking points, he can get fucked, all the way. That's also pretty much why, when I copied the banner images from the Reddit sub to put here, I kept the crowd and the title but didn't keep Bernie :)

                    So don't worry about all those misguided Bernie Bros who followed him right back into the democratic party, that's not what WotB is. Besides it's not a monolithic sub either, so if you're hoping for more diversity of opinions, this should fit pretty well :)

                    [–]JasonCarswellWay Of The Burning Man 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

                    Not Dem Left or Woke Left or corrupt "Progressive" Left, but the old-left, left without representation.

                    [–]Maniak🥃😾 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

                    Pretty much. And without absolutes or tribalism. Not everything 'on the left' is necessarily good, not everything 'on the right' is necessarily bad. Though most of everything 'in the center' does tend to be cowardly corrupt dogshit. Sit on your pretend fence for too long and you end up being a worthless pointless establishment bitch like Kyle.

                    [–]JasonCarswellWay Of The Burning Man 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                    Agreed!

                    [–]Vulptex 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (24 children)

                    From what I've seen, monopolies happen because government powers them. They largely began in the industrial era, the exact time when government started expanding its powers. Reddit can be seen as an experiment; and certainly the admins gave the default mods a monopoly. And, the government itself is a monopoly.

                    [–]shatabee5 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

                    Corporations control the government. Investment banks like Blackrock tell Congress what to do with the help of global strategists like McKinsey.

                    [–]risistill me 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                    Not only corporations. Large donors, whether individuals, like Soros and Koch, or entities, like corporations, real estate investment trusts, llc's, etc.

                    [–]Dragonerne 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

                    BlackRock is controlled by two jews, Larry Fink and Kapito. Surely a coincidence.

                    [–]shatabee5 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                    You know what else? They are both men. Surely a coincidence.

                    [–]Dragonerne 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                    If your argument is that men as well as jews are vastly overrepresented, then we are in agreement. However somehow I think you're just trying to whataboutism in an attempt to defend woke capitalist Jewry. One might wonder, why?

                    [–]BlackhaloPurity Pony: Pусский бот 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

                    Mayo Pete has entered the chat?

                    [–]shatabee5 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

                    He is the politician trifecta. Military/security state, global strategist, WEF.

                    [–]BlackhaloPurity Pony: Pусский бот 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

                    Plus, McKinsey.

                    [–]shatabee5 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                    McKinsey is but one of several major 'global strategists'.

                    [–]JasonCarswellWay Of The Burning Man 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

                    Higher NGOs control both Left and Right, the deep state, and the corporatocracy. BIS, WEF, WHO, CFR, AC, TC, etc etc etc.

                    [–]risistill me 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

                    Democrats are the other right meat, not left.

                    [–]JasonCarswellWay Of The Burning Man 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

                    To be clear, Left (not left) and Right are both right.

                    [–]risistill me 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

                    Yes, but by referring to Democrats as left, or "left" or "fake left," one only reinforces the fiction that Democrats have something to do with the left. JMO.

                    [–]JasonCarswellWay Of The Burning Man 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

                    Capital "L", Left™.
                    Corporations evolve.
                    Never accountable.
                    Unless initially accountable.
                    And even then...

                    [–]risistill me 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                    More like OR--Other Right.

                    [–]JasonCarswellWay Of The Burning Man 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                    All government is a mafia with a monopoly on violence.

                    [–]Maniak🥃😾 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

                    If a monopoly can't be used to make whiskey the main drink everywhere, it's not worth existing.

                    Besides, humans are too primitive and stupid to be capable of handling any kind of monopolistic power without trying to fuck everybody else in order to grab even more power for themselves.

                    [–]Vulptex 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

                    Which is exactly the problem with government. Better to have a lot of too-powerful CEOs than one giant centralized government.

                    [–][deleted]  (4 children)

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                      [–]JasonCarswellWay Of The Burning Man 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

                      Left and Right wings of the War Hawk Party.

                      [–]risistill me 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

                      There is only one party in the United States, the Property {Money} Party....and it has two right wings: Democrat and Republican.

                      Gore Vidal

                      [–]JasonCarswellWay Of The Burning Man 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                      Noice! Perhaps I heard that once.

                      [–]Maniak🥃😾 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                      A lot of too-powerful CEOs are the giant centralized government right now. They own it and they all share the same goal: more money and power for them.

                      No matter who's at the top, no matter which shape it takes, the only way to keep them 'honest' is if they're scared of the bottom. Otherwise, they'll just step on everybody, as they're doing now. As Reddit's cunt of a CEO is doing right now on a small scale, but it's always the same pattern.

                      The WHO is another example of that. Entirely controlled by corporations and billionaires, and currently being given power over all member governments, worldwide. How's that for one giant centralization.

                      [–]InumaGaming Socialist 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (22 children)

                      I mean...

                      Some of us are going to tell you that Bernie betrayed everyone twice and America blew up North Korea and they still kicked American ass in the Forgotten War to the point that America got so mad, they didn't sign a peace treaty and Trump wanted peace with them.

                      Some of us would tell you to finish what Trump started with peace to the Korean peninsula.

                      Just need to be honest about the history which we all got lied to about.

                      [–]Vulptex 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (21 children)

                      North Korea is such an embarrassment to leftism that the media tries to recast it as a conservative regime. Its horrors are twice as bad as Nazi Germany. It's like if reddit was the government, where you have to constantly fear that you'll say or do something or even be associated with someone who does, and spend the rest of your life being experimented on and doing hard labor. It's a terrible way to live.

                      [–]captainramen🇺🇸🛠️ MAGA Communist 🛠️🇺🇸 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

                      Huh? Of North Korea is conservative, because as a communist country, they're going to follow the sensibilities of their people. South Koreans are just as conservative but sooner or later they'll be forced to conform to the woke mind virus.

                      The only possible exception to this I can think of is Cuba, they're under enormous pressure from the US sanctions regime so a) they're forced to adopt woke garbage and b) they can't develop their industry.

                      Beyond that, I would say that perhaps North Korea wouldn't be so paranoid if we weren't literally out to get them.

                      [–]Vulptex 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                      North Korea is what you get when wokeness is in charge. All that "punch a Nazi" and "Nazis don't deserve human rights" stuff (where everyone who disagrees with them even slightly is a Nazi).

                      There is no evidence that North Korea is conservative, any more than there is that Ukraine is progressive.

                      [–]captainramen🇺🇸🛠️ MAGA Communist 🛠️🇺🇸 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                      I'm not the first person to notice that the same libtards who said it was ok to punch a NAZI turned around two years later and made excuses for arming actual NAZIs with heavy weapons. Of course what they really meant was it's ok to punch conservatives, since liberals are the natural allies of the fascists.

                      Here's an excerpt of a statement made by President Kim to the Russian Federation for Russia Day:

                      Pyongyang, June 12 (KCNA) -- Kim Jong Un, president of the State Affairs of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, sent a message of greeting to Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin, president of the Russian Federation, on Monday.

                      He in the message offered warm congratulations on behalf of the government of the DPRK and its people to the president and the government of the Russian Federation and the friendly Russian people on their national day.

                      The message appreciated that the strong and wise Russian people have made proud history and culture for a long time since they took their deep roots in their vast land, and covered a proud path of development, demonstrating the dignity and might of a powerful country.

                      It said that thanks to the correct decision and guidance of the Russian president, the struggle of the Russian people to foil the hostile forces' escalating threats and challenges to deprive Russia of its sovereignty, security and peaceful life has entered a new decisive phase.

                      Justice is sure to win and the Russian people will continue to add glory to the history of victory, the tradition peculiar to them, the message stressed.

                      It noted that the people of the DPRK are extending full support and solidarity to the Russian people in their all-out struggle for implementing the sacred cause to preserve the sovereign rights, development and interests of their country against the imperialists' high-handed and arbitrary practices and to realize the international justice.

                      You might understand what wokeness is, but do you understand why it is? The key is in the use of the term 'imperialism.'

                      [–]InumaGaming Socialist 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (17 children)

                      North Korea is such an embarrassment to leftism that the media tries to recast it as a conservative regime.

                      The horrors were done to it, with America destroying 20% of the population which you can read about through Bruce Cumins

                      What people don't know or learn is the Juche ideology.

                      What I can say is that the West constantly lies about every country in the world that doesn't bend the knee to it and we all have to learn the reality instead of the propaganda we were told.

                      [–]hfxB0oyA 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

                      Juche is bullshit. The agricultural component of it is about forcing their population to eat plants grown in their own uncomposted, parasite ridden shit, thereby burdening everyone with an endless cycle of sickness. And that's just for starters.

                      [–]InumaGaming Socialist 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

                      It doesn't help that the US offered bags of rice for cow's tails according to them

                      Problem is that most of what we're told is from the Empire of Lies known as the US so we should take it all with a grain of salt.

                      [–]hfxB0oyA 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

                      Just because the US has a dogshit government doesn't mean that North Korea's government isn't a dog's asshole.

                      [–]InumaGaming Socialist 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                      True, but when I'm seeing that the dogshit government of the US is responsible for their suffering, I have to clean up after the one I'm responsible for as a child of that empire.

                      [–]Vulptex 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

                      I can believe that America has committed war crimes.

                      However, every single person who's made it out of there says it's horrific. They don't allow internet access, dissent, or even religion, and they torture you for everything. You have to worship their supreme leader as God. The elections are coerced and rigged. Everyone but Kim is in serious danger just by existing there, even his own most trusted officials. We can see that they have concentration camps on satellite, despite them claiming not to. They commit unimaginable human rights abuses. Even China is disgusted by the atrocities of North Korea. So don't act like they're innocent.

                      [–]hfxB0oyA 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

                      You have to worship their supreme leader as God.

                      Speaking of which, were you aware that the Most Holy And Infallible And Amazing And Ronery Supreme Leader doesn't ever need to go potty?

                      [–]Vulptex 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

                      I have heard that NK says that, and that people are brainwashed enough to believe it. But I can see things like that being fake news so I didn't mention it. Still wouldn't be surprised if they really do make such claims though.

                      [–]hfxB0oyA 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

                      Hell, some people in the USA even still believe that Biden is mentally present enough to lead.

                      [–]BerryBoy1969It's not red vs. blue - It's capital vs. you 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                      Hell, some people in the USA even still believe that Biden is mentally present enough to lead.

                      From what I understand, the only pragmatic choice for the American consumer of political product in the Corporate States of America, was our owners alternative to Trump.

                      And that's how shitlibs saved their owners demockracy...

                      [–]InumaGaming Socialist 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

                      However, every single person who's made it out of there says it's horrific.

                      Again, you need to take this with a grain of salt as that's usually the ones willing to say anything about a place they will no longer go to. Also remember that usually, the CIA is calling the shots on someone resisting their attempts at overthrow. Same as with Ukraine, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan, or even Pakistan with the regime change operation against Imran Khan.

                      [–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                      This is also a country that supposedly had zero coronavirus cases until just recently (because their cure was probably killing you) and something like 97% of the population supports Kim Jong Un (because if they don't they'll get their head blown off).

                      [–]InumaGaming Socialist 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                      Show me

                      [–]Vulptex 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

                      People who've toured there have witnessed it. They have walls put up so the only city you can visit looks like it's thriving, when in reality all the buildings are empty and people live in slums. You can get in serious trouble for taking pictures of things they don't want you to, I wonder why. Nevertheless several people have managed to do so. On satellite, there's a dark spot at night where North Korea is. There's also video proof of them chasing down shooting at defectors. And they're so obsessed with defectors that they've sent agents to kidnap them from all over the world so they can bring them and their whole family back to torture camps. And no one commits suicide in North Korea either, because doing that will also get your whole family sent to the camps.

                      [–]InumaGaming Socialist 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

                      Okay, let's see all that.

                      [–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                      Here's a video of North Korea running a person down and machine-gunning him because he tried to leave the country: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkBijF9ngQc

                      Here's where people in Pyongyang actually live. You can also tell that the skyscrapers are totally empty and don't even have glass in the windows: https://i.redd.it/z3td99n0ol851.jpg

                      Here's what NK looks like from space at night: https://i.insider.com/561fff3edd0895d42c8b45df?width=480&format=jpeg

                      [–]InumaGaming Socialist 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

                      The first problem is believing the corporate media, especially the Disney news network. They couldn't get Epstein right and they're supposed to get North Korea correct?

                      This is five years ago. Recently, Yeonmi Park has shown that Western Psyops continue to work

                      The problem is, Yeonmi’s tall tales have varied over the years, littered with factual inaccuracies and... poetic licence. How could this happen? It’s a question on many people’s lips as she surges back into the spotlight following the publication of her most recent book, While Time Remains: A North Korean Defector's Search for Freedom in America. Wouldn’t she remember whether her father escaped with the rest of the family, or was left behind to “minimise the risks”? And how did she forget about the concept of ice cream?

                      Below, we dive into some of Yeonmi Park’s wildest stories of life in North Korea, and why defectors are incentivised to embellish their suffering under the rule of Supreme Leader Kim Jong Un.

                      Now in regards to the Pyongyang you're showing, I don't know the history on that. Here's WSJ with Pyongyang in 2018

                      This is Pyongyang in 2012 with Offbeat Japan

                      And this is some pictures of nightlife

                      All I'm saying here, is that just a cursory glance and you can be lied to about any country. The same stuff going on here, they used against the Marcos family in the Phillippines when they were taken out of power unconstitutionally. Imelda Marcos' shoe collection was the obsession over the fact that the family was helping the lowest Filipino and creating their own sovereignty.

                      You really have to go and recheck what you know because a lot of it matches propaganda, not reality.

                      [–]InumaGaming Socialist 10 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 3 fun -  (38 children)

                      It's amazing what happens when you aren't suppressed by algorithm...

                      [–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (36 children)

                      Except that this sub is being suppressed by algorithm. If you log out and look (or "private window" for a look) at saidit.net, (the home page) we're not there.

                      Only if you know enough to go to s/all and look will you find posts from here. Then you do find them.

                      Or if you are subbed to here, and are logged in, then you find them.

                      So we're sorta semi-dominating.

                      [–]JasonCarswellWay Of The Burning Man 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

                      Are you subscribed to /s/WayOfTheBern when looking at /s/Subscribed?

                      [–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                      I went to https://www.saidit.net/subs/popular/ and discovered that I was subbed to about 65 subs.
                      Now it's only two.

                      (popular has the advantage of actually showing what you are subbed to)

                      But to answer your question...yes.

                      [–]Vulptex 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                      For some reason the owner re-added the default subs feature that reddit used to have. I don't like it, since it was one of the first things reddit did when it began to fall. But I think the real trouble was with the cabal of mods they appointed over all those subreddits, which isn't happening here (other than the owners controlling certain subs on their own).

                      [–][deleted]  (19 children)

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                        [–]magnora7 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

                        It's just not one of the default subs because it historically hasn't been active enough to warrant being a main sub

                        [–]MartiniPlease send olives! 🍸 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

                        are we getting any nearer to being active enough to warrant being a main sub? :) :) :)

                        also, are you seeing any uptick in people donating to patreon/crypto per the links at the bottom of each saidit page?

                        [–]magnora7 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

                        Yeah I could add it to the front page, we'll see how things are going in a week or two.

                        There has been a few nice donations lately to support the site, and I'm very thankful to those who support saidit in this way!

                        [–]UncleJemima 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

                        This sub at Sadit and Reddit has absolutely nothing to do with Bernie Sanders and is indeed against much of what he's worked so hard to develop as a liberal politician for decades (and they also hate AOC, Bernie's co-campaigner). It's entirely hijacked by right-wing jerks. The sub name doesn't describe its content. It's activity developed only recently, because of the strike. Just my 2 cents.

                        [–]captainramen🇺🇸🛠️ MAGA Communist 🛠️🇺🇸 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

                        Fuck Bernie Sanders, he's a warmongering piece of shit and a traitor. How's that?

                        [–]UncleJemima 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

                        Perfect reason not to be in the default subreddits (sub name unrelated to its content)

                        [–]captainramen🇺🇸🛠️ MAGA Communist 🛠️🇺🇸 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

                        Except it is, because the name of the sub is not ILoveBernieSanders or IWantToSuckOffBernie, it's WayOfTheBern.

                        WayOfTheBern is named for Bernie's Way of building coalitions across ideological divides, from his time as Burlington's mayor to the work that won him the nickname of "the amendment king" on the Hill.

                        Is he still doing that? Or is he now sheepdogging chumps into voting blue no matter who? Bernie betrayed his own legacy.

                        he's worked so hard to develop as a liberal politician for decades

                        I missed this, but this is the problem. He pretended to be on the Left but we now know he's just another Liberal.

                        [–]ageingrockstar 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                        They explain why here :

                        https://saidit.net/s/whatever/comments/ay50/reddit_blackout_welcome_thread/12iw0?context=3

                        [–]GoblinJ 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                        He said somewhere else it was to make saidit look more appealing and not like a Nazi fun house.

                        [–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

                        My guess is that it is the face of saidit when seen for the first time.

                        "You get one chance to make a first impression." So you put on your best "greet the new people" face.
                        Once the new people have signed up, then you can tell them about the rest of the place, in which some parts are not for everybody.

                        I can see the reasoning behind it.

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                          [–]JasonCarswellWay Of The Burning Man 3 insightful - 6 fun3 insightful - 5 fun4 insightful - 6 fun -  (1 child)

                          That's a lot of syllables.

                          [–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

                          Sometimes, ya gotta dream big.

                          [–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

                          What about that shadowy place?

                          That's beyond our borders. You must never go there

                          [–][deleted] 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

                          Most of the users long-term users here are using the all tab - very few of the subs have enough activity to act as standalone subs like Reddit.

                          [–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

                          Most of the users long-term users here are using the all tab

                          That's probably a good idea. But anyone coming in fresh without yet making a saidit account (and setting their subscriptions) only gets to see the defaults, presented as "all of saidit."

                          Unless they know to go to all.

                          [–]yaiyen 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                          This is so true, i was wondering why their was so much garbage then i notice that subscriptions to all of saidit. Wonder why they do it that way

                          [–][deleted] 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

                          Yes the default subs was a huge mistake

                          [–]JasonCarswellWay Of The Burning Man 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                          ▲

                          [–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

                          Not necessarily a huge mistake, more of a command decision.

                          As long as people are not "locked in" to those choices and can find their way back out of them.

                          [–][deleted] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

                          It kills engagement on non-default subs, and prevents any new subs from gaining traction with the exception of when entire Reddit communities migrate here. I always post to the defaults, even when another sub would be more appropriate, because you will get far less interaction on those posts, as it just limits your visibility to some users who won't see it.

                          [–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                          prevents any new subs from gaining traction with the exception of when entire Reddit communities migrate here.

                          Not necessarily. It would prevent fast gains of traction, but with new subs, perhaps explosive growth is not what's needed.
                          But with the right people, and a little time growth would still occur.

                          [–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                          Although... the sub numbers do give some interesting data.

                          If everybody "on Saidit" is subscribed to s/saidit, that's 42,140 people currently.
                          (Plus however many unsubscribed)

                          There's currently 19,750 subscribed here, in s/WayoftheBern. That's a pretty big percentage, if they all came in at once.

                          [–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

                          Someone should make a Guide For Saidit Noobs showing how to go to https://www.saidit.net/subs/popular/ to add and subtract the ones you want and don't want.

                          Along with the recommendation to always check s/all every now and again.

                          [–]JasonCarswellWay Of The Burning Man 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

                          What would you like to know? We can draft up more to add to the wiki & faq linked at the bottom of every page. https://SaidIt.net/wiki/index

                          Also, I was going to make a post asking all SaidIt folks what they think are the most important issues, topical subs, and community subs to list them on a SaidIt wiki page as well as https://Projex.Wiki (yes, I know the SSL needs updating). For what it's worth, I've tried to add all remotely related subs in the sidebox of subs I've set up for folks to discover.

                          [–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

                          What would you like to know?

                          I've got one, but it's more of a personal annoyance: Why can't I sort the comments by "OLD"?
                          I've been doing it that way for years, and I miss it.

                          On the plus side, having the new comments in a thread highlighted is great! Reddit has that feature hidden behind a paywall.

                          [–]JasonCarswellWay Of The Burning Man 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                          I don't know about either. I know about most subs though.