MISANDRYSit down, shut up and listen to the women - Gender Critical Feminists turn on male allies before they’ve even won the war.

submitted by ClassroomPast6178 from x.com

all 34 comments
sorted by:
top
newinsightfulfun

[–]LtGreenCo 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

If anyone got us to this place its the feminists

You can draw a straight line from feminist theory to gender ideology.

Underrated comment. A decade ago it was the man-hating feminists like this lady who welcomed all of these gender freaks into their ranks and now they're acting suprisedpickachu.jpg now when everything's gone predictably tits-up. You reap what you fucking sow.

Unfortunately it's not just these spiteful cunts who are affected by the gender insanity, it's normal women as well: mothers, sisters, daughters, wives, girlfriends. If it weren't for that fact I'd be happy to sit back and watch as trannies devoured all of the feminist spaces.

[–]Q-Continuum-kin 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

This isn't really true unless you consider feminism to be all the things that every person cumulatively refers to as feminism today. The radfems have always been anti-man and this exact reason is why they became the canary in the coal mine and then the front lines against TRAs. They are rooted in second wave feminism and are advocates for women's only spaces which was one of the core issues of the second wave. At the time there were often no bathrooms for women in public places and women who left the home were often harassed by men who treated them as sex objects.

The most toxic transgender people are the autogynephiles. They are sexually aroused by seeing themselves as their idea of an "ideal woman" which is basically just a mindless sex doll. These are still heterosexual men who are going to threaten women's privacy by gawking at them in the toilet with a weird sexual gaze. Radfems were second wave feminists who became rather extreme in their anti male bias and defense of women. They ended up slamming head first into the TRA autogynephiles a good decade or 2 before anyone else had caught on.

All the people today espousing 3rd and 4th wave feminist ideas are almost antithetical to what a 2nd wave feminist was fighting for and this part isn't really surprising because TRAs are best at parasitically stealing credibility from all other movements. Yes they stole terminology from intersex people and stole history from gays, but they also ran off with feminism. The AGPs in particular were obsessed with being feminists because it was another layer of being a "woman". This whole field of intersectionality is about proving how MtFs are even more important in feminism because they can layer all of these labels on top. They took the antimale terminology from 2nd wave and spun the exact same words to be about transgenderism.

[–]fuck_redditThou/Thee/Thy 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

This ignores the fact that men lost our single-sex spaces almost entirely before the first assaults on female-only spaces began. Feminists invented the lawfare strategies that troons are currently using to attack women. 2nd wave feminists were just as into the “desegregation” of everything masculine as the 3rd and 4th waves.

[–]AriShekelsteinDDS 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is precisely why I won’t take these women seriously until they are willing to admit that it’s fair and right for both men and women to have their own spaces, both free of each other and free of perverts pretending to be the opposite of what they actually are.

They want men to be their ally in a fight to restore things for women that women won’t grant to men. It’s not a fight about equality, it’s about returning to the status quo of privileges for women.

[–]LtGreenCo 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I know there are different kinds of feminists.

But here I'm talking about the feminists of 10 years ago. The mansplaining, manspreading, Gamergate Anita Sarkeesian, mattress girl, check your male privilege type of feminists. Their ilk came up with the whole cultural Marxist idea of "Intersectional Feminism" and brought all of the so-called marginalized groups into the feminism fold -- including trannies and Muslims. And as we're now witnessing, that's come back to bite them in the ass.

[–]Q-Continuum-kin 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Those people are probably still all pro trans.

[–]LtGreenCo 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm sure there are plenty but when AGP trannies started invading women's spaces it caused a giant rift in that group.

[–]jet199 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I think Sarkeesian spoke up about women's sports or something a few weeks back but that's about it.

[–]alladd 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Let me guess: "I don't care about fairness in women's sports because I'm a walking stereotype of a liberal, who sees no point in competition. Rah rah, let men use women's sports for their own validation because despite claiming to be a feminist, I am so subjugated by my own narcissism that the idea of championing women doing something non-sexual with their bodies doesn't register to me as socially important"

[–]JulienMayfair 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Good post. I worked in academia from 1990-2010, and one of the strangest things I witnessed was how Women's Studies departments surrendered -- sometimes enthusiastically -- to gender theory and became Gender Studies departments in the 2000s. The radfems sounded alarms, but it seemed to make no difference. (As far as I could tell, true radfems never had that much power in academia.) I think part of it was that second wave feminism had accomplished many of its goals and was worried about becoming moribund, a movement without an objective. At the same time, gender theory seemed to be the cool, new, hyper-intellectual thing, so they embraced it without considering the outcome. It was a true Trojan Horse moment.

It is a strange thing to consider that women calling themselves feminists were both the biggest enablers and biggest critics of the rise of all things trans.

And it continues. At my alma mater, the vocal advocates for trans women in female sports are all women.

[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

was worried about becoming moribund, a movement without an objective.

Or people associated with it were worried about not enjoying the level of power and influence that they'd been accustomed to. When everyone who previously hung on your every word and opinion suddenly starts drifting away and paying attention to someone else, it probably sounds like a good idea to convert and become a fiery advocate yourself to regain what's been slipping away.

And then you get a taste of just what you can do with that new stuff, like getting entire companies to bend a knee to it and enact policies around it; sure, they do it cynically for their own profit, but they do it. Or getting to have massive sway over governmental policy, maybe to an extent greater than what you ever could manage before.

Heady stuff.

[–]JulienMayfair 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

In academia, specifically, prestige carries a lot of weight, and in the 1990s, the gender theorists like Butler and others seen to be on the cutting edge of something, even if they were just selling a line of bullshit wrapped up in sophisticated-sounding jargon.

I once attended a lecture by Fred Jameson, probably the highest-paid Marxist theorist at the time. All the professors were there. Afterwards, I heard them joking amongst themselves that they hadn't understood a thing he'd said. It was all about being seen to be at a Fred Jameson lecture.

[–]alladd 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

The denial is quite telling. "No, men did this to us." Really? Men made Andrea Dworkin simp for troons and dog-fuckers decades ago? Men gave Judith Butler swiss cheese brain about gender?

[–]jet199 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Well god even knows what happened to Judith Butler but I can only assume it was horrific.

[–]JulienMayfair 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

what happened to Judith Butler

What happened to Judith Butler is that she caught an academic wave and used it to turn herself into a highly-paid academic superstar. I've met her. Butler is not some lesbian feminist struggling to keep a failing Womyn's bookstore afloat; she's a cold, calculating career opportunist.

[–]Adventurous_Ad6212 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I unironically have been saying this for years now and people kept telling me I was wrong.

[–]LtGreenCo 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Then they don't know shit because it's plain as day to anyone who's been watching all of this unfold in real-time over the past decade.

[–]AriShekelsteinDDS 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Dear Women,

If you don’t want or need our help, why do you demand we be your allies and that we listen to you? Sounds like you know everything and have a plan to sort this all out.

Yours,

A Man.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

What is "a man"?

[–]spanishprofanity 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

in an ideal world, a man is a sex object

[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

A good reminder that feminists are nothing more than allies of convenience on one particular matter only.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 3 insightful - 5 fun3 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 5 fun -  (1 child)

Signed by:

A Woman

Please define this term for your colleagues.

[–]OuroborosTheory 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

just a miserable little pile of secrets

[–]clownworlddropout 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

We definitely need women to help us get out of this mess, their voices carry more weight with social issues, but this kind of needless infighting isn't helping anyone. Men have a thing or two to say about this nonsense as well.

[–]UncleWillard56 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I agree with her. Time to stfu and do your own work. Stop living off of men.

[–]Clown_Chan 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

She's right, tho.

[–]alladd 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

TERFs not taking credit for the insane bullshit they started, part 1000

[–]OuroborosTheory 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

they really haven't been the same since Amber Heard's conviction

[–]xoenix 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

To be fair, Tucker Carlson recently featured some unknown dude to talk about the gender industry's money trail, when he really should have invited Jennifer Bilek who started her research on this topic almost a decade ago, which this guy almost certainly used without giving any credit.

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Some people refuse to go on Tucker’s show, same with Piers Morgan’s show.

[–]xoenix 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

She would have if she were invited.

[–]QueenBread 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Are there some women who are complete dipshits, screeching at all men and being idiots? Yep. Is it true that the biggest enemy of women's rights is other women? Yep. Is it true that we are in this mess because of women and feminism? No. No woman forced men to burst into women-only spaces and shove them away from sports and public places.

[–]jet199 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Is it true that the biggest enemy of women's rights is other women? Yep.

I'd say the biggest enemy of women's rights is a truck full of bearded and heavily armed men riding into your town and taking it over.

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No, don’t you understand, from the river to the sea, Palestine will be freee!

So many clueless western idiots chanting that right now.

You’re absolutely right. The first thing the Taliban did when they retook Afghanistan was close the girls’ schools, enforce the wearing of the Burkha and restrict women to the house unless accompanied.

Such a shame considering the effort that was made to get girls into Afghan schools post-2002.