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[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 31 insightful - 1 fun31 insightful - 0 fun32 insightful - 1 fun -  (21 children)

I love how not mindlessly kneeling at the altar of trans automatically makes the dissenters "alt-right." Absolute prime display of the left's set-in-stone "if you're not with me, you're against me" mindset.

Folk who want this sub to be a toxic echo-chamber of hate? Please leave. Start your own sub if that's your forte.

From the TRA mod's own words. Thing is, gays do leave troon subs to start their own, and the fucking troons follow almost immediately to infest that one as well. They can't abide the idea of someone having something that doesn't feature, promote, and validate their sorry asses.

[–]cephyrious 28 insightful - 1 fun28 insightful - 0 fun29 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

"Start your own sub" - which they will infiltrate and yell at you in.

[–]Datachost 25 insightful - 4 fun25 insightful - 3 fun26 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

https://imgur.com/a/zTj8Z2o

Replace "sub" with "website", "bar" or "rape crisis centre" as necessary

[–]RedEyedWarriorThe Evil Cishomo 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And then ban that sub if they cannot ban you from it.

[–]RedEyedWarriorThe Evil Cishomo 21 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 0 fun22 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

They’re like domestic abusers. They cannot handle people having their own private spaces without them involved.

Imagine you get kicked out of your own house by an abusive spouse? So you find a new plot of land, and build your own house on it. And then your ex comes along and burns your house down. They need to abuse you, because that is all these people have. And just like that, trannies only have an ideology to back up the decisions they’ve made, which is an ideology that requires censorship in order to thrive.

[–]Haylstorm 15 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

Seriously it's so much rage at a place that clearly isn't going to agree with them. Gay men surprise surprise don't WANT a partner who isn't male. It's like they go there to get mad when there's loads of subs for them going to the ones that aren't and whining is so silly.

Like if I went to a train sub and posted buses I'd expect it to be removed/told it's not the place for it. It wouldn't be acceptable for me to have a meltdown over it.

[–]RedEyedWarriorThe Evil Cishomo 16 insightful - 2 fun16 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

The problem with trans men is that they have been told by the established government, media and institutions that they are owed whatever they want. Trans men who are straight or bi want to have boyfriends. They target gay men because they want us to validate their delusions. Keep in mind that gay men have been criminalised and coerced by society into marrying women for centuries, through sodomy laws, bachelors’ taxes and harassment from families and communities. Now that we are finally allowed to date other men and be left alone by society, you have mentally ill women barging into our spaces and demanding we put them on a pedestal. Now, this isn’t something that is entirely new to us - we’ve had to deal with hen parties being held in gay bars for years. And also women sexually harassing gay men in gay bars with impunity. But trans men want us to pretend that they are men, and have us isolated from spaces that were made for us if we do not comply with their demands. You also have lesbian trans men who sexually harass lesbians and expect lesbians to call themselves straight while dating them. WTF?

[–]Haylstorm 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

It's insanity. I've seen how some of them react to Bi partners not caring too and it's wild. Like they really spit the dummy out the pram and feel like they aren't validated by the other person being bi. They ONLY want a gay man and anything that isn't that is transphobic.

[–]RedEyedWarriorThe Evil Cishomo 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

I love how the LGBT movement claims to be against biphobia, but doesn’t give two shits when a tranny refuses to date bisexuals. Not that there is anything wrong with not wanting to date a bisexual or only wanting to date bisexuals. But the LGBT movement will call you biphobic for this… unless you are trans.

[–]Wanderingthehalls 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

There does appear to be a pattern of AGP men seeking out bisexual women to marry so that when they reveal that they are really a lady, they can attempt to use their wife's bisexuality as a way to pressure her to accept their new identity and stay married. The ones who trans when they are single, want a real lesbian to validate them but the ones who have an AGP fetish but also want to hold on to the best chance of getting and staying married glom on to bisexual women if they can.

[–]RedEyedWarriorThe Evil Cishomo 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

And of course, their bisexual partners leave them anyway. Because radically changing your appearance is a massive turnoff. Not to mention having to remember the chance of name, pronouns and how this can affect the children. I'm not bisexual, but even if I was, I would still leave my partner if my partner tried to be trans.

[–]Wanderingthehalls 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I used to have a massive crush on a friend who started identifying as NB and my attraction literally died the day after I realised. Even without any radical change in appearance or name change, I just find someone having that kind of disconnect with their body a turn off. Sex and sexual attraction is an instinctual, physical, animal thing to me. If you can't connect to the body that you have how can you use it to connect with someone else?

[–]RedEyedWarriorThe Evil Cishomo 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't blame you. A non-binary fella asked me out on Grindr and I said no. I wasn't interested.

[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The old TiA, before it went almost entirely into coverering troonery, used to feature a variety of wackiness from the LBG side, including quite a number of posts where bi people got shit on for being bi. If they dated straight? They were just queer posing for status. If they dated gay? Then obviously they could just stop having straight partners at all, but chose not to. And if they added trans to the mix? Oh lawdy, the salt and outrage that followed.

[–]RedEyedWarriorThe Evil Cishomo 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, the treatment of bisexuals suck. Yes, a lot of bisexual people are clueless on what it is like to be gay, and think that same sex relationships are not serious at all, which does rub gay people the wrong way. But most biaexuals know that same sex relationships can be serious, and many of them have had their hearts broken by members of the same sex. Furthermore, to dismiss bisexuality as a stepping stone to coming out as gay or a call for attention is ignorant at best and insensitive at worst. I also find it odd that transsexuals expect bisexuals to find them attractive while refusing to date bi people because they want homosexuals or heretosexuals to validate them. The treatment bisexuals get from society is not fair.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I think essentially they are the same type. There's always been a group of people tied with socially progressive movements that aren't there because they believe in the cause, they are there because they enjoy feeling power over other people. They enjoy being able to lead a socially transgressive charge into larger society. Saw this with every major social change where people on the fringes pushed the envelope farther. Thing is there's a subtle difference between being socially provocative in a way designed to make people think and reevaluate their beliefs, and being socially provocative because you like feeling superior to others and enjoy making them feel uncomfortable, it's a power game to them, and then they stop deriving pleasure from it they move on somewhere else.

Used to see this in college with various groups. You'd get a "gay group" for some hobby, and you know I'd assume it's a pick-up group or something and not really care, but they seemed more to be social activism fronts? Very odd.

Rememeber there was one "gay-gamer" group some guy was inviting me to a few times who seemed offended that I didn't want to attend because I wasn't gay. "That's ok we accept everyone!" Why isn't it just a gamer group then?

I guess the regular gamer group couldn't get off the ground because the members of the "gaymer" group would essentially preempt any attempt themselves to control it. I think they were a bit incensed at the idea that other people could go informally meet and get along with people for what I'd just call "shooting the shit" whereas me and the others would be fine just going to the pub or hanging out informally. And I think the reason was they were not socially fun people to be around. So that sort of structured activity nonsense became necessary for them to even attempt to have social events and it kind of sucked out all the fun. And they really didn't like the idea of exclusion.

It reminds me of this old essay I read about how "nerds" make some fundamental mistakes about how humans socialize and they don't realize how it tears apart the fabric of social groups.

https://plausiblydeniable.com/five-geek-social-fallacies/

Somewhat interesting read I think is adjacent to what you see happening in the LGBTQIA whatever you call it now movement.

[–]RedEyedWarriorThe Evil Cishomo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

It reminds me of this old essay I read about how "nerds" make some fundamental mistakes about how humans socialize and they don't realize how it tears apart the fabric of social groups.

Yes! Nerds. Not shitting on people who are smart, tech savvy or into sci-fi, but giving society to the nerds was a huge mistake. Although I would argue that most nerds would be annoyed or even horrified by woke culture, because woke culture has destroyed comic books, video games and science fiction.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Gamergate and it's consequences. Difference between the socially capable "nerds" and the clueless space cadets.

Course it was funny to watch the drama unfold while not giving a shit or understanding why anyone cared. So some no name made a game about "depression" that like most artsy movies and the like fails to be "good" in the sense of mass market appeal. What do you do? Well get into the Hollywood paparazzi BS of sleepijg around to climb the ladder or whatnot then throwing people under the bus to get ahead. Or at least that's what I have it figured as? I'm still not sure what the fuck happened. All I know is the generational shift has basically put games from some niche hobby to a mass market enterprise similar to what happened with movies and television back 100 years ago. For good and for bad.

[–]RedEyedWarriorThe Evil Cishomo 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Gaming peaked around the 7th generation. Back when games were powerful and there was little to no political correctness.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

There wasn't quite so much money and corporate bureaucracy back then driving the I industry like today. It's similar to the movie industry really. There's still some creative stuff going on and fun games being made but it's becoming more and more a heavily directed and profit maximizing business rather than an enterprise for hobbyists.

Still, there's some good shit that gets made. Mostly on the indie side. One benefit to the kind of standardized engines and the like is that you can get some pretty good games made by very small teams where you can see that it's one person's pet project and not some corporately derived money making machine.

Thing is the politically correct stuff doesn't sell well. Unless it's so unobtrusive nobody gives a shit. Recently they're labeling character models in games as "body type 1" or "body type 2" instead of male or female to placate the angry Tumblr people. But the joke is people spending time with a character creator in a first person single player game. Who gives a shit.

Some of the very best games out there don't let you customize your character at all. The current industry just loves cosmetics because they can sell them at piecemeal and churn out an infinite amount without bothering to actually make a new game.

[–]RedEyedWarriorThe Evil Cishomo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's the problem with financial capitalism. Maximising shareholder's earnings legally becomes the company's number one priority. This is the law in the United States. It requires constant growth. I prefer industrial capitalism, where a company only needs to make enough money to remain solvent.

The great thing about modern gaming is that if you get a powerful enough PC, you can get any game from Steam.

[–]Dirkpytt 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The funny thing is they did start their own sub and the tra's invaded

[–]Musky༼⁠ ⁠つ⁠ ⁠◕⁠‿⁠◕⁠ ⁠༽⁠つ 🐈 21 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 0 fun22 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The comments are awesome. Never been more proud of the gays before. Good for them for standing up to that tranny nonsense.

[–]Newzok 19 insightful - 2 fun19 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Oh god that's popcorn worthy, what a prime example of wokescold. But also, how long until the sub bites the dust from being transphobic?

[–]RedEyedWarriorThe Evil Cishomo 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Not too long, I can imagine.

[–]Newzok 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's a pattern isn't it. Either it gets locked or it gets fully trooned out, in which case the gays flee and it's just another tranny central. Start new sub, rinse repeat.

But I think it's more likely that the bros stand their ground and mods lock it or something. Anything not compliant must go...

[–]jacques1102 16 insightful - 2 fun16 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Fucking hell i love what i'm seeing.This infighting is honestly going to tear the LGBT apart.

[–][deleted] 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

LGB drop the T & Q.

All of the letters to the right of LGB are confused/larping straight people.

[–]clownworlddropout 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Even better, make it LGBS and include straight people to hammer home the fact that the gay rights movement was about sexual orientation and not poor fashion choices and plastic surgery.

[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

A return of the legendary superstraight :D. Which got shut down so hard and fast that they didn't even bother trying to hide the blatant organization behind the effort of tearing it apart.

[–]clownworlddropout 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

SS+ scared the shit out of them, and rightfully so. That's what a real grassroots movement looks like, and it'll keep happening until their retarded ideology goes extinct.

[–]RedEyedWarriorThe Evil Cishomo 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It was only a matter of time. One day, AGB would be forced to accept either a tranny mod or a TRA mod, or else get banned. Like what happened to r/CringeAnarchy. r/CringeAnarchy filled the sub with transphobic comments so they can go out with a bang, rather than get neutered. Better to die on your feet than to live on your knees, after all. Unfortunately, it appears that r/AskGayBros would rather live on their knees, so now gay men are getting banned form a space that was made for them. The only recourse for these men is to leave Reddit for another site, such as this. I gave up on Reddit and came over here.

Unfortunately, it takes time to build up a community. And the only community on Saidit intended for gay people that has active members is s/LGBDropTheT. There is s/GayMen, and s/RightWingLGBT, but nobody posts on these subs. In fact, before Reddit banned it, r/RightWingLGBT had 20,000 subscribers. But instead of coming on here, these gay right wing Redditors stayed on Reddit and went to post on r/Conservative. Until that gets banned too, which is only a matter of time, assuming it hasn’t been banned already. Unfortunately, humans are creatures of habit. If we get too comfortable in a space, we don’t leave, no matter how awful that space becomes. The majority of people on the dissident left or the dissident right use cancel culture as an excuse to save time and money, rather than go on new websites like BitChute, Odysee or Rumble. Sometimes, whenever a content creator gets banned, a large chunk of his fans just assume he’s stopped making new content instead of searching for him on new sites.

Let me give you an example. My favourite podcast show is Revenge of the Cis. They post four videos a week, and originally they began on YouTube. Whenever they couldn’t livestream because of a strike, they streamed on a backup channel. They’d come back to their main channel two weeks later, and get comments from fans wondering where they’ve been. Royce and Mersh (the hosts of ROTC) would tell fans to subscribe to their backup channel and watch their streams there if they cannot find the streams on the main channel. Yet, they would get another strike, and come back to surprised fans who wondered where Royce and Mersh went. Fortunately, most of the dedicated fans followed the backup channel. Eventually, YouTube began striking the backup channel. So ROTC eventually had to do a Rumble exclusive show for a week. After that week, they announced that every Friday would be a Rumble exclusive to incentivise their fans to come to Rumble. After a few months, ROTC decided all of their streams would be done exclusively on Rumble, and they gave their fans a one month notice to get a Rumble account. They still post clips of their livestreams on their main YouTube channel, but only to get normies who come across their channel to follow them onto Rumble. Their livestreams are much more fun now. But they still only have 9,200 subscribers on Rumble, compared to 43.9 thousand on YouTube. A lot of people just could not be bothered to make the switch. Although perhaps a large chunk of these YouTube subscribers are accounts of people who died, who created new accounts, people who lost interest in the show or people who left the show because Royce and Mersh call out Republicans as well as Democrats. Thankfully, Rumble has potential, because the site has cat videos. That is how you pull in normies.

However, Saidit has no appeal to normies. Most posts on this site are related to conspiracies, which is not going to appeal to the average normie. And most of the gay subreddits are not going to encourage their subscribers to get Saidit accounts and build up backup communities here, because most gay Redditors think they would not be welcome on Saidit. The exception is s/LGBDropTheT, who are more concerned about spreading their message than they are about being wrongly associated with conspiracy theorists. They took a risk and they are reaping the awards. Even though they only have a fraction of subscribers here than they did on Reddit. Hopefully, there are plenty of gay people on here with Reddit accounts who can convince AGB Redditors to come over here.

[–]Datachost 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Some pretty based gay men in there. I've found r/ActuallyLesbian is pretty much the lesbian equivalent of AGB. They can't outright say no transwomen, since they'd probably get banned for that, but there's a strong implication and pretty much anyone trying to steer conversation towards transwomen gets heavily downvoted

[–]RedEyedWarriorThe Evil Cishomo 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

For those who use 'Freedom of Speech' as an excuse for spewing hatred: free speech does not mean speech without consequence. If I slander or libel someone, yell "Fire" in a theater when there isn't one, urge the violent overthrow of the government, or break any other laws set in place to protect people from being harmed or abused, there are penalties.

I hate these arguments. Yes, speech can have consequences. But the purpose of freedom of speech is to allow people to give their side, explain their beliefs and share their ideas without being silenced. The reason it is illegal to yell FIRE in a crowded theatre is because it leads to people getting trampled to death. Slander and libel are also illegal because the subject of slander or libel is often not allowed to give his or her side of the story, and is often killed because of a misunderstanding. There is a difference between giving an opinion and spreading harmful lies about another person.

As for the overthrowing of a government, yes, that is also protected speech in some countries’ constitutions. Why do you think that America has a right to bear arms? Because its fore fathers predicted that an authoritarian regime can establish itself in America and don’t want such a regime to last. In fact, this Redditor who posted this lame comment would gladly back the violent overthrow of the Russian government. To be fair, Putin does not treat his citizens fairly, but name me a politician nowadays who does? Look at the way the American system treats veterans, small time offenders, divorced fathers, police brutality victims, college students with lots of student loans that they cannot default on, and young people struggling to find jobs that pay enough to afford rent? You can argue that this is not as bad as how Russian people are treated by their government, but this kind of treatment is still terrible.

Freedom of speech covers opinions. And it does include protections not just from the government, but also social media platforms that have become the public square and control the dissemination of information.

[–]FlyingKangaroo 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Who would have expected? It’s almost like an expectable thing for their community.

[–]BISH 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

In-fighting... Oroboros style!

[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Been reading a few more of the posts, and the TRAs aren't being the least bit subtle about their gaslighting and deflection. Like, the behavior that the gay gays have a problem is being directly quoted in their comments and replies, and TRAs are like "I don't see what, where do you see that, why are you being so hateful toward people who aren't doing anything?"

Edit: My goodness, but this thread is just a mine of lulz. My new favorite quote is Dear_Put9830's "homonationalist castro clones," and this absolute gem of a smoothlobe has so many delightful shittakes, like pressing the lie that gay rights were won by trans people. I'd almost suspect this one of being a dedicated troll, if they didn't seem to spend all of their time hovering around the gay men subs.

[–]Datachost 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

"Homonationalist Castro Clone" sounds like one of those insults that ends up getting adopted by the group it's aimed at, because it sounds too fucking cool.

I'm especially loving the assertion that gay people only have equal rights due to queer theory. That's some truly astounding historical revisionism considering it was the complete opposite and it was the queer theory lot who almost fucked it up for them by trying to bring paedophiles into the fold

[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

it was the queer theory lot who almost fucked it up for them by trying to bring paedophiles into the fold

You mean like how they're doing right now?

[–]Datachost 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, it's NAMBLA/PIE revamped

[–]QueenBread 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I mean, on one hand I love seeing them gaybros opposing that bullshit. On the other hand, it pisses me off that when TRAs try to ruin men's spaces, men fight back. But women aren't allowed to fight back. Also, for this very reason, TRAs must be feeling very bold now if they start daring to try to take men's spaces.

[–]Musky༼⁠ ⁠つ⁠ ⁠◕⁠‿⁠◕⁠ ⁠༽⁠つ 🐈 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

But women aren't allowed to fight back.

JK Rowling famously has fought back, but in general, conflict and aggression are the bread and butter of men. These gay bros didn't ask permission to be allowed to fight back, they just did it. Kudos to the guys who threw away their accounts to permanent bans just to make a stand.

TRAs must be feeling very bold now if they start daring to try to take men's spaces.

Or very, very foolish.

Support your fighting men, bake a pie and plant a victory garden for them.

[–]IX-Hispana 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"Please leave. Start your own sub if that's your forte."

Right, start your own sub so it can be suspended within the hour. That's rich from these fuckers. The fucking gall.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is stupid.

All we have to do is ignore it. These are attention seeking assholes.

Ostracize them. Shun them. Ignore them.

[–]Adventurous_Ad6212 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

As a heterosexual man I think we should all suck a little girl cock or eat a small amount of boi pussy in order to clean ourselves of the blood on our hands for contributing to the literal genocide of trans people we have been causing with our refusal to fuck them.