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[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

Two guys have a healthy relationship with each other? Clearly they’re gay undercover lovers who can’t come out quite yet and are such small UwU beans!!

And a lot of that is driven by women. I might see or hear a guy make a "lol homos" crack about two guys being bros, but it's almost always a one-off thing and quickly forgotten. But women? They'll latch on to that shit with a terrifying fervor and spin an entire reality around it. There was boy band, One Direction I think, that had some really insane--to the point where the members themselves actually became unpleasantly aware of it--gay shipping going on with its members, and almost all of it from women. And I know that male k-pop groups have to deal with it too, again almost entirely from women.

But that's not evidence of toxic femininity, is it? No such thing exists.

[–]Neo_Shadow_Lurker 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I might see or hear a guy make a "lol homos" crack about two guys being bros, but it's almost always a one-off thing and quickly forgotten.

Ehhhhhh...

In 99% of situations the people who'll throw the word "fag" around two close friends won't be women, let me tell you.

One Direction I think, that had some really insane--to the point where the members themselves actually became unpleasantly aware of it--gay shipping going on with its members, and almost all of it from women. And I know that male k-pop groups have to deal with it too, again almost entirely from women.

This is disgusting, but is this really a common thing outside of boy bands and online mlm fandoms?

[–]wylanderuk 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Its pretty common in tv show fandoms, for example supernatural and sherlock spring to mind.

[–]Cass 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The boy band thing happens bc the fangirls want a reason to write gay porn to masturbate to.

[–]LyingSpirit472 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

There was boy band, One Direction I think, that had some really insane--to the point where the members themselves actually became unpleasantly aware of it--gay shipping going on with its members, and almost all of it from women.

Shit, weren't there examples of at least two members of the band who were good friends and enjoyed hanging out together, who had to stop hanging out because of all the shipping?

[–]MyLongestJourney 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

And a lot of that is driven by women.

Bullshit.

[–]Cass 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

He's talking about a fandom phenomena, so he's right. But like 99% of ff readers/participants are normal women who want to masturbate to hot gay sex and don't actually believe fanfiction is real.