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[–]magnora7 43 insightful - 17 fun43 insightful - 16 fun44 insightful - 17 fun -  (63 children)

The irony of someone who supports physical_removal, crying about having their sub removed. It's your own ideology come to life! You should therefore support my actions. But that irony aside...

There has been plenty of discussion about why, ad nauseum.

"didn't feel like talking to a guy like you."

Pretty certain I never said anything like that.

Physical removal is removed for advocating violence ("Let's throw gays and communists out of helicopters, so to speak." being a central meme), and coontown is also removed for advocating violence. ("Black people are just the worst and shouldn't exist, and we should probably hang them" being a central meme)

You seem more upset you can't set up little mod fiefdoms than you actually are upset about your information being limited.

The issue has been explained to you. The community doesn't really support you. What are you even trying to accomplish here? If you want to hate black people and gays so bad that you need to make a whole sub about it, just go to voat. Seriously.

We have banned 5 subs in 16 months, so this idea it's "worse than reddit" in terms of censorship is just laughable.

[–]Troll[S] 16 insightful - 2 fun16 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 2 fun -  (42 children)

The irony of someone who supports physical_removal, crying about having their sub removed.

However, I am for free speech. I'm just at the understanding that the left isn't someone you debate with, like how you don't debate someone trying to kill you. You don't debate ISIS on why what they're doing is wrong, because they don't care.

Pretty certain I never said anything like that.

Or close enough. You certainly didn't want to talk about it (and made some other statement very much against the Holy Pyramid of Debate).

Physical removal is removed for advocating violence ("Let's throw gays and communists out of helicopters, so to speak." being a central meme)

Physical_Removal was for the legalization of State actions against treasonous and dangerous people in this country. And, no, gays were not anybody we focused on other than the weirdos who dress in S&M in public and such.

Anyways, Communists are not people.

and coontown is also removed for advocating violence. ("Black people are just the worst and shouldn't exist, and we should probably hang them" being a central meme)

Coontown had excellent policies against calls to violence, and this was admitted by two CEOs of reddit. Furthermore, it was not against the existence of all blacks. We even had a few blacks who agreed with us, and many of us were Thomas Sowell fans.

You seem more upset you can't set up little mod fiefdoms than you actually are upset about your information being limited.

I am upset that my information is being limited. Physical Removal, IMO, is the most important cause one can undertake in today's society. Coontown was good old fashioned trollish racism and crime statistics/stories.

We have banned 5 subs in 16 months, so this idea it's "worse than reddit" in terms of censorship is just laughable.

Of all the subreddits you have banned with political purposes, how many were leftists?

ShitRedditSays, for example, certainly ruined more lives than Coontown did. /r/Anarchism has called for violence plenty of times, including telling people to bring firecrackers to "protests" which actually did happen the following day. FuckTheAltRight is full of calls to violence.

We have banned 5 subs in 16 months, so this idea it's "worse than reddit" in terms of censorship is just laughable.

Of those 16 months, very few of those had any worthwhile traffic to speak of, and they were banned for reasons obviously untrue as stated previously.

[–]magnora7 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (38 children)

FuckTheAltRight is full of calls to violence.

Yup and it would be banned if it came to saidit, for the same reasons coontown and physical_removal were banned.

[–]Troll[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (27 children)

What a non-statement. Both those subs had, at most, like 2-3 submissions. It's not the left-wing ones you ban, though. And you were the sole moderator of boht PR and CT, last I checked. So how did they even come to saidit if nobody was posting in them? So why a different standard?

You want to tell me who you voted for in 2016?

[–]Zombi 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (25 children)

Please provide an example of left leaning subs calling form violence and I'm sure magnora7 would ban it.... You act like there's some conspiracy against you lol.

[–]Troll[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (24 children)

[–]Benedict 10 insightful - 8 fun10 insightful - 7 fun11 insightful - 8 fun -  (7 children)

That's not this site. You expect the SaidIt admins to ban a Reddit sub?

[–]Troll[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Oh man. Comment of the fucking year.

[–]Benedict 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (5 children)

So does that mean "Yes, you expect them to ban a sub on another site?"

[–]Troll[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

No, the point is that they're banning subreddits here because they were banned on reddit.

[–]Zombi 8 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 4 fun -  (15 children)

I thought this was a pretty clear question, but as with everything else you seem to just loving muddying the waters. Do you have any proof of left leaning subs on saidit calling for violence? Reddit is a different site, so citing their users as a reflection of ours is a little misleading.

This is a very, very simple issue to solve. If there are calls for violence on left leaning subs within saidit that have yet to be banned then /u/magnora7 is a hypocrite. If the calls to violence seem to be only an issue within your subs, then maybe it's something YOU'RE doing if multiple websites keep banning the type of communities you tend to build.

You ever have that thought? That maybe, just maybe, you're not some helpless victim? That maybe it's not the entire world out to get you? You ever wonder if there's a slim chance that it might just be you who's the asshole? Man, what a world that would be... It's just so hard to picture a reality in which you, of all people, might actually be in the wrong.

[–]Troll[S] 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (14 children)

Do you have any proof of left leaning subs on saidit calling for violence?

Does Magnora have any proof of the banned subreddits here doing that, too?

Are you a moron? Honest question.

You ever have that thought? That maybe, just maybe, you're not some helpless victim? That maybe it's not the entire world out to get you? You ever wonder if there's a slim chance that it might just be you who's the asshole? Man, what a world that would be... It's just so hard to picture a reality in which you, of all people, might actually be in the wrong.

You're a limp-wristed faggot leftist. I bet you're not even 18 year thinking you know it all, too. If you're over 18 then I'd be ashamed for your sake.

[–]Zombi 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (4 children)

Does Magnora have any proof of the banned subreddits here doing that, too?

I, personally, don't need any as I've seen the memes/posts he's referring to on those subs, but I'm sure if you really wanted proof he would be able to find evidence. Since they're banned I can't go look. Nice job avoiding the question, btw. Here it is again: Do you have any proof that left leaning subs on saidit are making calls for violence yet still aren't banned?

Such a simple question that you've repeatedly failed to answer. So weird how your giant galaxy brain can't answer it.

You're a limp-wristed faggot leftist. I bet you're not even 18 year thinking you know it all, too. If you're over 18 then I'd be ashamed for your sake.

Considering you're literally named "Troll" I just find the irony of this comment so goddamn sweet. Thank you so much for this lmfao!

[–]Troll[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Here it is again: Do you have any proof that left leaning subs on saidit are making calls for violence yet still aren't banned?

I already posted one link with plenty of examples. Here's something inside the crystal ball, though: the reddit admins are going to clean house with the moderators of /r/chapotraphouse while not banning the subreddit, while it has done more than most right wing subreddits in terms of violence and harassment.

Considering you're literally named "Troll" I just find the irony of this comment so goddamn sweet. Thank you so much for this lmfao!

Trolls are forum power users. The top of the food chain. Cream of the crop. Alpha males.

[–]magnora7 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

You're a limp-wristed faggot leftist.

Are you a moron?

Please respect the pyramid of debate, this is warning 2.5 because I'm being lenient. https://saidit.net/s/SaidIt/comments/j1/the_saiditnet_terms_and_content_policy/

One more infraction where you are dragging the quality of discussion down the pyramid of debate and you're banned from the site.

[–]happysmash27 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

/u/Troll, please respect the pyramid of debate. This debate should be finished, and not ruined due to a lack of self-control resulting in your ban :( . I can even help review your comments if you like.

[–]happysmash27 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Does Magnora have any proof of the banned subreddits here doing that, too?

You are right, that /u/Magnora7 really should have proof; I agree with this point.

Are you a moron? Honest question.

People usually don't get themselves tested for this, so I doubt /u/Zombi can actually answer.

You're a limp-wristed faggot leftist. I bet you're not even 18 year thinking you know it all, too. If you're over 18 then I'd be ashamed for your sake.

This is completely unfounded as well as extremely low on the pyramid. Are you trying to get banned, maybe as ammo against SaidIt?

[–]Zombi 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I totally agree that proof should be provided for those that haven't seen it. I've seen the posts/memes magnora7 is referring to, so I don't really need it, but I do think it would be nice to have some in the future.

[–]Troll[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Are you trying to get banned, maybe as ammo against SaidIt?

No, I'm just an asshole, and felt banning these subreddits here for the reasons banned was very poor -- especially when the leftie subreddits were much worse in illegal speech than my precious /r/physical_removal.

[–]UmamiTofu 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You want to tell me who you voted for in 2016?

Ad hominem is pretty low on the pyramid my friend

[–]Troll[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Just a reminder to anybody reading this: magnora7 created /s/coontown and /s/physicalremoval (not the correct /s/physical_removal) and banned them under them "being here," but gives left-leaning subreddits a different approach.

Who DID you vote for in 2016?

[–]magnora7 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (8 children)

I didn't make them, I took ownership over them after the original creator was banned as a troll.

[–]Troll[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I'd have been more than happy to take them off your hands.

What kind of trolling was he doing? Disagreeing?

[–]magnora7 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

He was creating 50 subs that were all hyper-controversial content, both far-left and far-right, and used a script to do it in an automated way that bypassed our original rule of only one sub per week. Far more than just disagreeing, it was a targeted attack

[–]happysmash27 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Is the validation for this client-side instead of server-side? Because that's not very good.

[–]magnora7 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The validation was on one front page but not a secondary back page that actually processed the forms, and he bypassed that with a hack. We fixed it a long time ago after that happened though, it's all proper now

[–]Troll[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

LOL @ reddit.

What an interesting attack though. That is likely someone with some familiarity with an older version of reddit. Considering saidit isn't really that large enough to attack, and it's such an insignificant exploit....

Makes one wonder.

Unless kids these days have TOO much time on their hands. But that's a VERY basic exploit. And that's what reddit is putting out as their "modern" source code prior to redesign.

Everything they do is fake.

[–]Troll[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's fair, then.

[–]bobbobbybob 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'd like to see the evidence of him being a troll.

Other than him disagreeing with you

[–]magnora7 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The original creator registered 50 subs with an automated script, and they were all extremist subs both left and right. That's more than disagreeing with me

[–]happysmash27 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

About /r/Anarchism, I believe /s/Anarchism is actually a private sub on this site, so I wouldn't say it's supported too much as a group (rather than an ideology, which itself often does not advocate for violence. The group though, can be pretty bad. )

On to some other points:

I'm just at the understanding that the left isn't someone you debate with, like how you don't debate someone trying to kill you. You don't debate ISIS on why what they're doing is wrong, because they don't care.

Why? I, as a very open-minded, independant-thinking leftist, am very welcoming of debate. Maybe some leftists might be crazy, but usually, any group comprises much more than crazy strawmen, even if some crazy strawmen exist.

You certainly didn't want to talk about it (and made some other statement very much against the Holy Pyramid of Debate).

I agree, that this probably was not a very good action in terms of the pyramid.

Anyways, Communists are not people.

Some definitions:

communist: n1. An advocate of a society based on the common ownership of property; a proponent of communism.

advocate: n3. A person who speaks in support of something. 

By definition, communists are people, no matter how harmful certain communists may be.

This type of thinking is really against the spirit of SaidIt in my opinion, which tends to promote understanding between people with different viewpoints. Please remember to be open-minded (this goes for everyone reading this)!

Coontown had excellent policies against calls to violence, and this was admitted by two CEOs of reddit. Furthermore, it was not against the existence of all blacks. We even had a few blacks who agreed with us, and many of us were Thomas Sowell fans.

This is a potentially good point, and should be discussed further with more evidence.

[–]Troll[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

My main point there was that coontown and physicalremoval got punished for behavior that was said to have happened at reddit, and behavior that did not happen at all.

Why? I, as a very open-minded, independant-thinking leftist, am very welcoming of debate. Maybe some leftists might be crazy, but usually, any group comprises much more than crazy strawmen, even if some crazy strawmen exist.

You're a liberal, I wouldn't necessary call you a leftist per se. It's semantics, I know, but a liberal is someone who, in my eyes, is not a true believer but just believes what they do because it's what society does. If you were born 700 years ago monarchy would have been normal and democracy would have been horrific (which should be the case today, IMO).

Some definitions:

I'm aware of what the formal definitions are, but I've viewed communism as having evolved, especially considering cultural marxism.

I don't consider leftists to be people because they don't believe in agency and seem to have none, the NPC meme I felt was very spot-on.

[–]happysmash27 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You're a liberal, I wouldn't necessary call you a leftist per se. It's semantics, I know, but a liberal is someone who, in my eyes, is not a true believer but just believes what they do because it's what society does. If you were born 700 years ago monarchy would have been normal and democracy would have been horrific (which should be the case today, IMO).

Ayy, no! I don't like what society does at all! I'm not even close to that!

At one point, I independently came up with the idea of giving things away for free, like in the free software movement, but in real life. Apparently, this coincided with "Anarcho-Communism". Before this, I thought that "communist" meant "evil dictatorship", as I was going with society, but now, I don't.

I don't even go with the herd on "communist" subs, because both /r/Communism and /r/Anarchism have rejected me to say the least…

I'm aware of what the formal definitions are, but I've viewed communism as having evolved, especially considering cultural marxism.

Definitions of these annoy me a lot. I should be called communist, but the fact is that my ideas come from free culture and freedom of speech rather than the ideology: Copyright makes illegal numbers, and that is silly and violates freedom of speech; Copyright is how many artists make money and making money is how most artists get food; the farmers demand money because they must pay bills, one notable one being property tax to the government, which is the only thing one really needs to pay, at a base level, to get food and resources; therefore, property tax is the reason for copyright, as well as enslaving people to the government and the existing "capitalist" economy, violating an individual's right to self-determination. Basically, people demand money, but why do we even need money? Why not just give for free, not worrying about all this accounting? One very big obstacle is, again, property tax. There may be more obstacles, but to fully explain this and clarify what I am saying (at the moment I am dissatisfied with the amount of articulation in my explanation of my ideology), it would take a very long time and many, many re-writes. One thing I didn't address in this paragraph, for example, is potential resource scarcity.

I don't consider leftists to be people because they don't believe in agency and seem to have none, the NPC meme I felt was very spot-on.

Ah, but I, as a leftist, do believe in free agency, very very strongly. Perhaps that is why so many leftists like banning me despite being leftist myself; I was banned from /r/Communism for posting about Anarkikomunismolando, and banned from /r/Anarchism for believing in free speech for everyone including fascists and for my opinions regarding child pornography which are very complicated (too complicated to explain right now at least), but over-simplified by them into "raping children is fine", which I do not believe. I think this distortion was a part of some kind of Delphi Technique they were doing, possibly to make me look worse for my other opinion.

In short: my ideology is quite a lot different from what society does, and is, unfortunately, very hard to explain due to how different it is.

[–]BuckBundy 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

You know what's unsettling about this thread? Multiple people are upvoting Troll.

[–]magnora7 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Could be alternate accounts of his, but some people probably support him

[–]sawboss 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

support

*AMUSED

[–]magnora7 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Then they should be voting "fun" rather than "insightful" haha

[–]sawboss 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

true

[–]Afor 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

The community doesn't really support you.

Some of us want proper rules about this so the next time something is banned we can feel assured that it's not because a power user reported the sub as unsavory.

[–]magnora7 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

There are proper rules.

Advocating violence is at the bottom of the pyramid of debate. Coontown frequently advocates violence. We left that exact message on the ban page.

I don't know how to be more proper than that. It's all in the open.

[–]Afor 8 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

  1. Power user reports

  2. Sub is banned

  3. Pyramid is updated with new tier

🤔

[–]OmegaUser296 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The change was made awhile ago and they continued to do it after the change, the change was made as a urgent need was made for it due to multiple people of that kind, it was already against the TOS and Policy before hand anyways so even without the pyramid update they were still breaking the rules.

[–]Troll[S] 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

"Coontown frequently advocates violence."

Can you provide proof? Two reddit CEOs said otherwise.

Lying is against the pyramid of debate. This is your first warning, magnora7.

[–]bobbobbybob 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There are proper rules.

At the moment, it really looks like you are abusing them.

[–]bobbobbybob 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

that's hardly a decent rebuttal.

Irony, twisting the goalposts to avoid addressing the issues, making it personal.

The guy has a point. Why the censorship?

[–]magnora7 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Because advocating violence is not allowed on saidit. It's simple.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Physical removal is removed for advocating violence

Is advocating violence banned speech on Saidit?

I'm not pro-violence, but I'm not a pacifist either.

Free speech is only a value, if it's supported for speech that one despises.

[–]magnora7 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Yes, regularly advocating violence is not allowed.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Aight.

As a habitual line-crosser, what frequency approaches "regularly".

[–]magnora7 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

How about you just do your best to avoid advocating violence

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Is it over 9000?!

[–]Snow 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Humans can't control the lust of building "our group" and attack other group...

[–]Sylexis 21 insightful - 7 fun21 insightful - 6 fun22 insightful - 7 fun -  (12 children)

Sorry, this site is not dealing with that fuckery. Want to complain about "free speech"? Go protest on capital hill somewhere.

[–][deleted]  (7 children)

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    [–]Sylexis 15 insightful - 14 fun15 insightful - 13 fun16 insightful - 14 fun -  (0 children)

    I rest my case.

    [–]magnora7 14 insightful - 4 fun14 insightful - 3 fun15 insightful - 4 fun -  (5 children)

    Please respect the pyramid of debate on saidit. First warning. https://saidit.net/s/SaidIt/comments/j1/the_saiditnet_terms_and_content_policy/

    [–]Troll[S] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

    I extend the invitation to you, as well.

    [–]magnora7 8 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

    Is that before or after you called me a "fucking fraud"?

    Second warning.

    [–]DefinitelyAJew 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Hey I'm just a bystander but I feel like you take it too personally if you want to be the head of the site. People who complain and insult will always bombard the higher-ups. That said though, if you ban subsaidits without a warning, what makes you different from reddit? I'm not tossing any shit here.

    [–]Troll[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    I think the biggest thing that screams, "please treat me like a victim" is the fact those saidit subsaidits were not getting any traffic, but were banned anyways. So it has nothing to do with the "pyramid of debate" It has to do with someone's feelings, and someone's opinions. So, there was no problem, and somebody had to find a solution because of feels.

    Reddit TRIES to make it look like subreddits broke the rules, when they haven't. This place just goes and deletes them because of BOTH feelings and lies. He's more than welcome to go and google /r/coontown and search for the announcement thread of its banning on reddit -- both Pao and Huffshit admitted that it broke no rules (claiming he banned it because it was bad for ads).

    [–]magnora7 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    The amount of traffic a sub gets has nothing to do with where it sits on the pyramid of debate...

    [–]SuperConductiveRabbi 7 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

    They allowed everything on Voat, and, worse still, didn't require it to stay in specific subreddits, and it completely destroyed the site.

    [–]Troll[S] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

    Yeah the voat admins were trash. Long time no see.

    [–]MaximilianKohler 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    So now you want the same thing here? Leave the trash on voat.

    [–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Mm

    [–]anorganicbear 15 insightful - 5 fun15 insightful - 4 fun16 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

    Go back to voat.

    [–]roc 15 insightful - 3 fun15 insightful - 2 fun16 insightful - 3 fun -  (8 children)

    I fully agree that subreddits supporting violence, such as physical_removal, are banned. The other one is a place full of racist jokes and I don't care much about it, but it should not be removed without a clear rule about it.

    [–]sawboss 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

    subreddits supporting violence, such as physical_removal

    Does it?

    [–]magnora7 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

    Yes, it does. "Let's throw gays and communists out of helicopters, so to speak" is a central meme to physical_removal, and is advocating violence.

    [–]sawboss 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

    "Let's throw gays and communists out of helicopters, so to speak" is a central meme to physical_removal,

    Please document the evidence against the accused.

    [–]magnora7 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=physical_removal&iax=images&ia=images

    About 20% of those are about throwing people off of helicopters.

    [–]Troll[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    So? It's humor. Throwing commies from helicopters is utterly hilarious.

    I'm not sure where sawboss was going. I sure as hell won't deny that helicopter rides weren't central to our beautiful mission.

    These "people" are utter garbage and trash, and I'm not saying that because I simply disagree with them. I've been around a while. It's not the beliefs you need to look at, but the psychological processes that were involved in those beliefs.

    Here's the thing: I'm completely serious when I say I'm an anti-leftist and pro-elimination. I'm careful to distinguish the true believers from the naive, uneducated, young, and foolish. But here's the thing: these are the people who will promote pedophilia, genocide, and the murder of successful people because such things makes their own faults and sins go unquestioned.

    Back in the 2000s I successfully "deconverted" a communist on revleft, and later he ended up following my advice for false reasons, and admitted he was a pedophile. I espoused a sort of anti-human nihilism and he took it into being an edgy weird fuck who fapped to the little girl playing across the street while watching out his window Boo Radley style.

    That's just one example. Can you fault me for wanting to cleanse this world of some measure of evil and filth?

    [–]sawboss 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    That doesn't prove anything. Do the moderators and participants in the sub agree that they wish to promote such action?

    [–]magnora7 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Yes, and they said as much.

    [–]sawboss 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Who said, where, and when?

    [–]OmegaUser296 13 insightful - 6 fun13 insightful - 5 fun14 insightful - 6 fun -  (6 children)

    I'm not Magnora7 but I can assume that you were harassing him like you have others in the comment.

    Also the Pyramid is a method of keeping discussion from falling to such childish circle jerk as Reddit, hence it probably wasn't political and more just your Sub was acting like a bunch of circle jerky Redditors.

    Edit: Your sub also broke the Pyramid of Debate AND Site wide rules with your avocation of violence.

    [–]Troll[S] 7 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

    Let me translate for the lurkers here:

    "HEY, MAGNORA, CAN I BE AN ADMIN SOMEDAY?????"

    smooooooooch

    [–]OmegaUser296 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    I wouldn't want to be an Admin but I do like to help this site in whatever way I can.

    [–]happysmash27 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    ಠ_ಠ

    [–]Stankmango 3 insightful - 9 fun3 insightful - 8 fun4 insightful - 9 fun -  (0 children)

    Avocados of violence.

    [–]bobbobbybob 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    where on the holy pyramid do you think your comment sits, just out of interest?

    [–]happysmash27 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Not OP, but I would say it mostly falls in to the higher tiers.

    [–]worm 14 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 2 fun -  (20 children)

    In all honesty, Saidit is becoming an echo chamber not unlike Voat. The front page and the comments sections are constantly filled with bland propaganda posts about Iran, Imperialism, and critiques of capitalism mostly from people who have no idea what they're talking about. Despite the initial assurances that Saidit was a place which welcomes discussion, I find that trite one-liners and poor debaters who cannot even reach the middle of the pyramid regularly get voted as the most "informative" answers.

    I'd had rather high hopes for this place when they first set up, but it's pretty clear that there's a reason why Reddit, Voat, and even this place will never become a place for intelligent discussion; the very way the voting system is set up is designed to encourage the reinforcement of worldviews.

    [–]magnora7 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (12 children)

    I think there's a few people that think like you do, but overall I find saidit to be a higher-quality place for discussion than reddit and I think many others do as well.

    [–]Troll[S] 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    Because you're just like a reddit admin. What you agree with = pyramid of debate. What you don't agree with != pyramid of debate.

    You can't even follow your own fucking rules when I attempted to discuss this a week or two ago. You're a fucking fraud.

    [–]happysmash27 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Please stop name-calling and using such divisive language – it brings your post down on the pyramid. I think you can still make the same point with less divisive language:

    You seem to be acting like Reddit admins often do, confusing the act of saying something you disagree with as going against the policy, which in this case is the pyramid of debate. You weren't even able to follow these rules yourself when I attempted to discuss this a week or two ago, and I feel that this greatly harms both your integrity and the integrity of SaidIt as a whole.

    Hopefully that makes the same point, while being a bit higher on the pyramid?

    [–]worm 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

    I would disagree with you on Saidit being a good place for discussion. I don't find this to be a better place than reddit for discussion at all.

    Take for instance this thread itself. My earlier comment which you replied to is exactly the sort of vapid, uninformative comment it complains about - funny how these things turn out - and it was voted to the second-most informative comment in the thread. This is despite offering no arguments or new information beyond what everyone already agrees with.

    If in the light of the current front page and the threads on it, you would continue to insist that this place is somehow more welcoming of intelligent disagreement than Reddit, I would invite you to consider one more thing. Is this tolerance of disagreement something born out of the way the system is set up? Or is it merely something to do with having a smaller community, which has yet to hit the critical mass where the circlejerking becomes perpetual?

    [–]magnora7 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

    I see you frequently complaining about how this site is no better, but then I have to ask, why are you here at all? It's not going to be perfect, but it is definitely better than reddit and voat in terms of discussion, despite what you might say. If you find it so lacking, why waste time here? What brought you here in the first place?

    [–]worm 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

    You seem to have taken this rather personally - is that a tone response I spy, and are you dodging the point to boot? I'm sure we all aspire to reach the top of the pyramid, don't we Maggie?

    To answer your question, I am on this site, on Reddit, and on Voat to argue with myself. I've given up on convincing anyone of anything with words, but maybe if I keep shouting into the void long enough I'll be able to clarify my thoughts to myself. And there is no better void than the circlejerk you find on here and in Reddit.

    You've tried to make this site different, I'll give you that. But I'm looking at the way things are going, and I'm seeing a Voat down the pipelines once the userbase gets big enough. Maybe you're not seeing it because you're emotionally invested in your brainchild, or maybe you're not seeing it because you generally agree with the things that get put on here like Troll has suggested. I don't really care why you don't see it - I'm just going to tell you what I see, and you're free to disagree if you want.

    After all, we do like our pyramids, don't we?

    [–]magnora7 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

    But I'm looking at the way things are going, and I'm seeing a Voat down the pipelines once the userbase gets big enough. Maybe you're not seeing it

    Of course I see it. It's one of the core missions of the site. Did you not read this very thread? I'm constantly engaging these people and giving them warnings such that they will eventually be banned. What else do you expect me to do to stop this pipeline?

    The pipeline isn't here yet, but you're already writing me and the site off. It reeks of concern trolling rather than actual concern, to be frank. Do you actually want the site to be better, or do you just want to convince everyone it's awful? Because it appears a lot more like the latter than the former at the moment.

    [–]worm 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

    What else do you expect me to do?

    I don't expect you to do anything, because I genuinely don't think you can do anything. Once you set up a voting system and allow people to vote for the content they want to see up top, they will vote for the content that chimes with their biases. Unless you're capable of changing human behaviour entirely, you're powerless to do anything. An acknowledgement that the voting system is inherently bad for discussion would be very amusing for me, but that's about it.

    If you're asking for experimental ideas about how we can ensure posts are quality? I'd suggest that you implement pseudo-academic standards on posts and top comments. Require citations, require a standard length in characters or words, and allow free discussion within that framework. I'd be happy to discuss it further, but I know you wouldn't care; like everyone else on this site, all you care about is owning your opponent in as few words as possible. So why should I care, if you don't even care about your own site?

    Regarding the matter of Voat, or what makes a Voat

    You know, the way you're writing just made me realize - you and I fundamentally disagree on what makes a Voat. You seem to be much more concerned about substance of opinions than the methods in which opinions are expressed.

    As far as I'm concerned, Voat's opinions aren't the problem. I'd be happy to sit down with a white supremacist, a communist, a Nazi, or even an anarchist as long as they're willing to entertain counterarguments politely and rationally. The problem with Voat - and a growing problem on this site as well - lies in the way they treat dissenting opinions. Arguments which are well-made but disagree with one's opinions are punished, while cheap jabs at the "wrong opinions" are rewarded by the hugbox.

    As far as I'm concerned, that is exactly where Saidit is headed. True, the users on Saidit in a few months' time may hold different political opinions when compared to Voat. But does the opinion really matter when the methodology is the same?

    Consider this very thread. Numerous insults are hurled at the person who made the thread, not necessarily because of the lowbrow methods with which he expresses his opinion, but simply because the opinion itself is seen as being wrong.

    I could scroll through this thread and find any number of people simply making insults, jokes, and other comments that would fit right in on any old Reddit or Voat thread being labelled as informative simply for insulting someone they disagree with. Observe the comment by anorganicbear or EndlessSunflowers, for instance.

    It reeks of concern trolling rather than actual concern

    Good one. I think I've just stopped being concerned about this site by now. I'm just disappointed that I was stupid enough to entertain your delusions of what this site would be. Anyone who's been on Reddit or its clones should have seen this coming the moment a voting system was implemented.

    [–]magnora7 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    So you don't think I can do anything to fix it, yet you're still disappointed in me. You're disappointed this site has a voting system.

    I don't know what to say. How about we just see what the future holds, instead of writing off the website entirely based on where you think things might go.

    If you find it too disappointing still, then I recommend leaving. It's just an internet forum. It will not fulfill your every dream, despite all of our best efforts. People are going to be people. There is nothing I can do about this.

    But it is the stated mission of this site to avoid becoming voat, as well as to avoid becoming reddit. So I will continue to do my best and encourage the community to do their best. If this is not good enough for you, then there is literally nothing else I can do.

    [–]worm 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    My disappointment is much less to do with this site than it has to do with your hypocrisy. I'm still on various Reddit-clones despite knowing them for what they are, and I'm probably still going to stick around here in much the same way. The real problem I have though? Isn't with this site. It's with you.

    Despite claiming to stand for the pyramid, you yourself appear to have no intention of sticking to it. When this is pointed out to you, you lash out in frustration and ask people to leave - as though frustrated that you cannot ban dissentment outright. You claim to have taken action against Voat-like behaviour, and cite as an example the very thread in which you partake in that sort of behaviour.

    It would have been preferable if you'd simply admitted that you never intended to make a place for reasonable discussion in the first place.

    [–]magnora7 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I have not "lashed out" to anyone, I am merely responding to your accusations. I welcome the conversation. If I simply wanted to censor you, I would. But that's not what saidit is about.

    Again you say there is nothing I can do, yet you are apparently immensely disappointed in me. This is a contradiction that can never be satisfied. How about you enjoy using the site instead of going after the admins? :) Peace.

    [–]happysmash27 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    The problem with Voat - and a growing problem on this site as well - lies in the way they treat dissenting opinions. Arguments which are well-made but disagree with one's opinions are punished, while cheap jabs at the "wrong opinions" are rewarded by the hugbox.

    I think that is less of a problem on this site than others, and this is why I like it here…

    Observe the comment by anorganicbear or EndlessSunflowers, for instance.

    …but yes, those comments are definitely low-quality exceptions. Has anyone mentioned this to /u/anorganicbear and /u/EndlessSunflowers yet? We really should strive to do better than this.

    [–]anorganicbear 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I consider my argument to fall on the "contradiction" level of the pyramid of debate. Not the highest, but not the lowest.

    I suppose you guys interpret it as "ad hominem", however, there's no evidence that I intended it to attack the characteristics or authority of the OP. Just based on his post, it seems like he fits in at voat, and not here.

    [–]Troll[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

    That, and don't forget the rise of smart phones bringing idiots onto the internet.

    It's like mass immigration: we need our own gated communities for decent discussion.

    [–]sawboss 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    we need our own gated communities

    The PoD is SaidIt's gate.

    [–]Troll[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    The pyramid of debate is nothing more than an abstraction that doesn't cover the nuances of speech.

    [–]sawboss 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    I don't know what kind of "gate" you want. Apparently you want an exclusive club where everyone already agrees on ... something? Any mechanism of exclusion will instantly create a power hierarchy or else devolve into mob rule. Even if your community begins ideologically pure (It won't), you'll fall into purity spirals and power struggles.

    Good luck fighting human nature.

    [–]send_nasty_stuff 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    All saidit had to do was copy reddit and apply rules fairly to the left and right side of the political spectrum and it would have stolen half of reddits users in a year the same way people left digg. Unfortunately admin here is trying to micro manage discussion and run the site like a single subreddit. It's unsustainable. /u/magnora7 will either burn himself out or slow growth so significantly the site stagnates stalls and dies.

    [–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Or, the rules get slightly looser as the site grows larger, just like on every other site.

    If all we did was copy-paste reddit, we'd be where tildes.net is... no one would care about us. We'd just be a shitty voat. The rules increase the quality of the site, and that's important to its success

    [–]bobbobbybob 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    There's also the problem that the people who seek and gain power seem to have very limited understanding of the responsibilities of power, or the pluracy of ways of looking at the world as opposed to their own myopic vision.

    [–]HopeThatHalps 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (23 children)

    Let's say for the sake of argument that our intention is to make the world a better place; how did coontown or physical removal make the world a better place?

    [–]Troll[S] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (22 children)

    Coontown was hilarious, and, helped anger people and divided the left and right more. Physical_Removal promoted the idea that leftists are a cancer -- which is absolutely true, objectively speaking.

    [–]HopeThatHalps 9 insightful - 4 fun9 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 4 fun -  (18 children)

    You say leftism is a cancer, and yet it's your sub forums that get excised from any reputable forum. Think about that for a moment.

    [–]Nechama 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    "Leftists are a cancer - which is absolutely true objectively speaking." I think you need to look up the definitions of objective and subjective. This is an opinion not a fact. The question was how did these subsaidits make the world a better place? Helping to anger people and divide the left and right more and promoting ideas that leftists are a cancer IMO (see how that works?) doesn't make anything better at all, it all just creates more hatred.

    [–]happysmash27 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    It also goes against one of the main goals of SaidIt: to reduce division.

    [–]HopeThatHalps 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    You meant to reply to the guy above me.

    [–]Troll[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

    So you're saying reddit is "reputable?"

    [–]HopeThatHalps 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

    Why are you wasting your time? Why am I, for that matter?

    [–]Troll[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

    Why did you just say that reddit is reputable?

    [–]HopeThatHalps 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (11 children)

    That's not germane. Let's suppose it isn't; that doesn't change the fact that your subs were banned from it.

    [–]Troll[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

    Great. What a moronic argument you have. Let's look at that shitbird logic. The Jews were kicked out of, what, 109 countries? Maybe we should make it 110. With your logic.

    [–]HopeThatHalps 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (9 children)

    Forums aren't countries.

    [–]Troll[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

    I never said they were. But the logic applies.

    [–]Vigte 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    If the "enemy" (absolutely truly and objectively) wants division and anger, isn't giving it to them kind of like offering to do their homework for free?

    Sounds a lot like getting used to me...

    [–]UmamiTofu 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    helped anger people and divided the left and right more

    That's making the world worse not better

    [–]Troll[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    When what approximates to "good" tolerates evil, such a thing definitely is on the menu.

    [–]solder0 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

    Not trying to kiss magnora7's ass, but if he is feeling a bit like a 'pettytarian', then I can't really blame him. I was about 75% insane after dealing with sjw scum when I fled to voat, only to find it quickly saturated with a different brand of stupidity.

    They don't really respect freedom of speech, not really. The downvote system is worse there than it is on reddit! It makes it easy for the community to censor you and then say "it's not the admins/mods doing it, so it isn't censorship", which is just plain false. I'm not going to argue semantics, either.

    You should have taken the hint based on how the "downvote" system works here, most of us have had enough of that crap! Take it back to voat, or that not-voat place, poal.

    [–]Troll[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    So? Voat is filled with 4chan-tier morons. I don't go to 4chan for the same reasons. Doesn't change the fact that I understand what the solution to the SJW problem is.

    [–]solder0 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Well, I did recommend poal.co, too.

    [–]EndlessSunflowers 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

    Good Riddance. Go be miserable somewhere else.

    [–]Troll[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I'm actually a pretty jovial person, I just have a lot of love for mayhem in my heart.

    [–]happysmash27 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    Wow; there is a lot of drama going on right now.

    I'm not sure if I should up-insightful this; it certainly provides a needed discussion, but I'm not sure if the actual accusations are very good at all.

    [–]Mnemonic 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

    https://saidit.net/static/PyramidDebate.jpg

    Could you at least point out:

    • Of what these subs were accused of?

    • What you think those accusations really were on the pyramid?

    The Irony is that Reddit only bans when there is a branding issue and saidit tries to have a normal debate/conversation.

    [–][deleted] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

    This pyramid obsession stuff is illuminati tier, tho.

    [–]magnora7 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

    Yeah I guess the food pyramid and trigonometry are Illuminati too /s

    The pyramid of debate was created in 2006.

    [–]Stankmango 3 insightful - 5 fun3 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

    If we're going to punctuate our obvious sarcasm with that beetling proverbial mark can't we at least start doing /r instead, just to spite Reddit and restore a modicum of balance in this heat?

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    They are. There is no need for that /s.

    edit: if you have to explain sarcasm with an /s, it is no sarcasm anymore

    [–]magnora7 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    /s is required because of Poe's Law

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    That means sarcasm is just impossible on the internet, since sarcasm stops being sarcasm when one has to explain it as such. /s

    You can even use it the other way around and acting as if you were joking though you aren't. /s

    Think I will use it all the time now. /s

    haha /s

    [–]Mnemonic 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    The Egyptians and Greeks did it way before the The Bavarian Illuminati was even conceived.

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

    They just stole it along with a bunch of other stuff from a high developed and educated race with hooves and horns that has left from this planet a long time ago. Every cow on earth that lives as a slave of any kind under human hands is forced to get "signed" with a mark to this very day.

    [–]Troll[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Reddit band based off of their politics.

    [–]Mnemonic 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    What does this even mean? Besides that you can't point out where/how you've been wronged.

    [–]MaximilianKohler 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    As a disclaimer, I'm not highly familiar with those subs. But IMO, leave that stuff on voat. No need to drown another site in racism and hate.

    [–]send_nasty_stuff 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Anywhere true free speech goes 'racism and hate' will go.

    [–]wizzwizz4 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

    This is not the flaw with Saidit. I don't even think this is a flaw. (Though /u/magnora7 probably should've humoured you endlessly, wasting significant time that could instead be spent developing other features, in order that you felt like you were being listened to, because the community is often more important than the software.)

    [–]nobster 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    People got o SaidIt because of Reddits censorship. Meanwhile, SaidIt is doing the same exact thing (albeit, far less). Unless it is illegal, Saidit should allow free speech...no matter how stupid it may be.

    [–]Troll[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I disagree. Saidit banning porn is fair, because it is non-informational and a huge headache. They should also be a little more strict on "calls to violence" even speech that is legal, because the feds don't care about the law. Our court system is a fraud, our law enforcement is corrupt, our justice is not justice.

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    calling it a pyramid is definitely illuminati symbolism

    [–]magnora7 6 insightful - 6 fun6 insightful - 5 fun7 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

    You can call it "the hierarchy of disagreement" if you like, but I find that doesn't roll off the tongue very well

    [–]happysmash27 0 insightful - 4 fun0 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

    SaidIt is a conspiracy to sort everything into funny or insightful. Wake up sheeple!

    (/s, but not mocking any particular viewpoint; I have just been wanting to share this fake conspiracy I thought of for a while now. )

    [–]send_nasty_stuff 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Why go to a version of reddit who treats it like one big subreddit?

    This is an apt description of saidit.