If Biden Wins Say Goodbye to Saidit

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[–]AcceleratedWallops 8 insightful - 6 fun8 insightful - 5 fun9 insightful - 6 fun -  (16 children)

What makes you think Biden will be a threat to Saidit?

Biden also said he would restore net neutrality; that's a big win for freedom of speech online.

[–]Spaceplone 11 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 3 fun -  (8 children)

net neutrality has nothing to do with freedom of speech

[–]AcceleratedWallops 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

That's a wild hot take.

Pay Comcast $8/mo for the privilege of using Saidit to continue this conversation now!

[–]bobbobbybob 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

no, net neutrality has nothing to do with free speech, but rather the ability of companies to restrict access to services / sites.

One is related to speech, the other to commerce.

[–]AcceleratedWallops 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

It's the use of commerce to restrict speech. You're just arguing semantics--the outcome is the same.

[–]bobbobbybob 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Sometimes small differences in semantics matter.

net neutrality is all about the $$$$ players. If you sign up with AT&T, maybe they don't let you access Disney+, because they've got a deal with Netflix. Maybe another ISP only lets you access some sites they've made deals with.

We already have a form of it, with many carriers offering free data to facebook, but not elsewhere.

The freedom of speech issues of that are a secondary, and even if you protect that secondary right, unless you deal with net neutrality, it doesn't mean anything.

At the same time, you can deal with net neutrality, but unless you protect freedom of speech, you haven't achieved your goals either.

So both must be addressed, as they are different aspects of the issue.

tl,dr; Yes, semantics. No, 'just'. No, "outcome is the same"

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

You need to dig deeper.

[–]scrubking[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

That never happened even though people like you said it would. 'net neutrality' is propaganda to make you think that what the govt wants is your freedom when what it really wants is control over what you say and do.

[–]AcceleratedWallops 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It hasn't happened because it's only been a few years since net neutrality was removed. They would need the public to forget about it for a while and then implement censorship slowly.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Truth.

[–]flugegeheimen 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

What makes you think Biden will be a threat to Saidit?

Yeah, what makes you think a party big on censorship and cancel culture will be a threat to a site where a lot of users don't have their noses deep in Biden's rear end? It's not like he already promised to increase censorship and he is not even a president yet.

[–]AcceleratedWallops 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

"Cancel culture" is a Twitter phenomenon. And people seem eager to call themselves cancelled whenever they get called out for anything.

And since when are Dems "big on censorship" (other than Feinstein, but fuck her anyway)?

That task force thing could be a cause for concern, but it also doesn't really say what they plan on doing; "shining a light" on issues could be nothing. We'll see.

[–]flugegeheimen 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

And since when are Dems "big on censorship" (other than Feinstein, but fuck her anyway)?

When they weren't? (I'd bother to put up a more coherent argument but not when you are so obviously playing dumb).

[–]AcceleratedWallops 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

With the exception of Feinstein, all the pro-censorship bills in congress come from Republicans.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The Republicans kept extending copyright and making it so you can't strum The Mickey Mouse March on your guitar without the copyright police breaking your door down. UN american!!!!

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I used to think Biden would fix internet censoring as he had a 1.4 trillion dollar infrastructure plan and Trump has(d) NO infrastructure plan to boost us which we haven't been fixed since 2005 but it sounds like he isn't any better!.

I don't call random duck tape and patching leaky pipes as 'fixing'. :) Oops it looks like today it's increased to 3 trillion.

[–]JasonCarswell 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

If you believe ANY government you're still watching too much legacy media.