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[–]ID10T 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Communism will definitely work "this time". It just has never been done right, but we know how to do it right now.

[–]Goingoutforawalk 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They need to kill 200 million this time. /s

[–]Hematomato 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Predictably, since it's Reddit, the whole thread is: [removed] [removed] [removed] [removed] [removed] I disagree [removed]

[–]UncleWillard56 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

What a fucking shitshow of a sub, lol. Just looking at the rules and restrictions to just having a conversation is enough to make you a suicidal, neurodivergent troon.

You are not allowed to be mentally ill in a communist state. Mental illness is a privilege of the bourgeoisie.

[–]NastyWetSmear 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

No kidding. Constantly trying to push proven bullshit up hill in the face of overwhelming evidence of it being impossible while all your friends around you roll their eyes in exasperation at your desperate attempts to make everything about your failed political fantasy makes you feel isolated? If only there were some lesson you could take away from all this that could make things easier for you.

[–]TemporarilyDeceased 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The post illustrates the 3 things that make communism/marxism fail.

I am trying to work in a political group but I have no motivation to work on it at all .

Like any group, most of the members don't do anything.

"Kind of the whole point" is violently overthrowing capitalism

Capitalism isn't going to topple itself, so this makes sense from the lens of socialism, but they need to set up the structure that will replace capitalism, and they don't, which means that if they overthrow capitalism, it will be replaced by something eerily similar. They could simply implement socialism on a small scale, work out the kinks, and gradually expand in scope as people see their success and willingly join. Those success stories are few and far between because those smart enough to try this are eaten alive by their very supporters.

It is a science of totality (or what Althusser calls the complex whole) to achieve proletarian liberation

Socialism is its own language as it redefines words in ways different from how everyone else uses them which is a great way to isolate people.

[–]Goingoutforawalk 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The blood of all the murdered people is weighing on them I hope. The Nazis were more organized but the Marxists are the real mass murder experts.

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    [–]IMissPorn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    petite bourgeois

    Petit actually. But yeah, hearing all that nonsense jargon while they insist it's not a cult is hilarious.

    [–]Alienhunter 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    Petty bourgeois is more like it. But I've yet to meet a self avowed commie who isn't some privileged bourgeois.

    It's why communism always is a shit show. Marx hits on some generally valid points like the increasing control of capital into a few parties and the stratification of industrial society removing the agency of the working class and diverting more and more of the product of their labor to the managerial classes.

    But then it goes off the rails into a bunch of utopian nonsense. You get young students that very much aren't part of the working class larping as communists then saying shit like "the worker should own their own means of production" which hey, I agree with that in theory, you should own your own field and be able to grow your own food and not have to go through some massive corporate entity to survive, but hey I shop at the super market same as you because it's actually way less work to do that vs growing my own food.

    Other shut they don't get is their whole agrarian utopian art commune nonsense. Who is going to grow the damn food? Sure having time for the arts is important but you are going to sit around all day philosophizing the food ain't getting grown, in a truly equitable society you'd just end up starving to death. Since you own your own means of production and decide not to produce.

    The ant and the grasshopper, such a shitty fable for children. The grasshopper plays around all summer then lives off the work of the ants in the winter because they buy his son story and just don't leave him out to freeze in the cold. This is society. The only difference is in the communist society the ants are red!

    [–]IMissPorn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    The weirdest part to me is why they chose to make the middle class (bourgeois) their top enemy (even ignoring that most of them actually belong to that class). I guess I can sympathize with hating useless managers, but ultimately they're just cogs in the "system" too, hardly the masterminds of it. Why don't they spend as much time railing against the ultra rich?

    [–]Alienhunter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Cause they get paid more.

    [–]Alienhunter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    So called communists are usually just immature kids so they rail against whomever is close and convenient. If you want to actually start digging into the historical movements of communism and their writings it's a lot more complicated. But years of anti-communist propoganda in the west essentially limits those self identifying as communists these days to anti-social youth whose most pressing concern is their oppression by the boss that wants them to show up on time.

    [–]P-38lightning 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    fucking lol

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    As if he wasnt mentally ill to begin with.

    [–]Evola 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Cognitive-dissonance is detrimental to anyone's health.