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[–]SillyGoose 24 insightful - 1 fun24 insightful - 0 fun25 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

As a lesbian younger than you (16), I completely agree with this. I felt so guilty not being attracted to men at all that I ended up getting convinced that I had to be a "trans man", as if is impossible to just be a lesbian. Even now, despite knowing I am a lesbian, the "woke" people still make me feel bad. Being bi or pan is "cool" now and "sexuality is fluid", so being a lesbian isn't supported much. Honestly, the trans movement and its allies have hurt me way more than the run of the mill homophobes have at this point. I don't even know any other lesbians at my age, everyone is bi, pan, or trans now. It feels so isolating.

[–]RedditHatesLesbians 23 insightful - 1 fun23 insightful - 0 fun24 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Also 16 here! What's helped me is honestly just getting my mind as far from all this as possible. It sucks we don't have spaces or communities, but this forum really helps and I've been spending most of my time learning bass and martial arts and trying to make myself a more well rounded person. In the future, all of these people who made their entire personality being a nonbinary demi pan lesbian will be dull as rocks. Don't feel bad about yourself because we're the sane ones here, without a doubt. Like minded people in our age bracket do exist, so don't lose hope. Like for centuries of lesbians, your self love has to come from only within and niche groups again. But lesbians made it through all the hardships we've faced up until now and we always will. Lesbians will always exist, while these people are a modern phenomenon. Take heart.

[–]oofreesouloo 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Awesome answer! :D

[–]throwaway080808[S] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Bass is awesome, rock on!

I don't know if this message was directed at SillyGoose or me but I really appreciated it, thanks a lot! It gives me perspective.

[–]RedditHatesLesbians 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Directed at anyone who needs it :)

[–]throwaway080808[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

you're awesome ♥

[–]reluctant_commenter 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

been spending most of my time learning bass and martial arts and trying to make myself a more well rounded person. In the future, all of these people who made their entire personality being a nonbinary demi pan lesbian will be dull as rocks.

That's awesome you're doing that stuff! Honestly, having real hobbies is underrated. And I would guess that all of the mental gymnastics and online forum reading that a "nonbinary demi pan lesbian" would have to do, takes up a lot of time.

Lesbians will always exist, while these people are a modern phenomenon. Take heart.

Yup, nailed it. It's so, so fascinating to think about how weird this will all seem to people in 10-20 years! But the writing's on the wall, it's going to happen.

[–]SillyGoose 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Having real hobbies is great! Bass is super cool. I spend a lot of time practicing percussion instruments for my school concert and marching band and love being inolved in theatre productions. I appreciate the comment, it definitely makes me a little more optimistic.

[–]xAcidRainx 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Very well said!

[–]throwaway080808[S] 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

My lesbian cousin actually told me the same thing about questioning whether or not she was a trans man because people at her university told her it was transphobic to like only one sex, as a lesbian. I really feel like people expect women to accept everyone and everything way more than they do men.

I feel exactly the same. In the end, I feel like the LGBT community has made me hate myself as much as (if not more) the homophobes have. What a sad commentary. I hope you're doing fine, if you need to talk send me a DM.

[–]SillyGoose 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Honestly, it is ridiculous. I never see straight men targeted in this way for only liking women, so why is it different for lesbians? It is sad that it happened to your cousin as well. I'm doing alright now for the most part even if I still feel guilty occasionally, but thank you for the offer.

[–]throwaway080808[S] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's pathetic, really. Sometimes I wish I was a straight man because straight men seem to be immune from everything lol. I hope you'll end up being the proudest lesbian ever, take care of yourself.

[–]Astrid2448 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I can completely understand why she feels that way. I’ve even seen trans men talking about how they were always exclusively interested in women, but when they started identifying as a man it suddenly became way more acceptable to like women. That no one questioned it anymore.

[–]throwaway080808[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh no that's just super sad