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[–]writerlylesbian 35 insightful - 1 fun35 insightful - 0 fun36 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

These are homophobes who have been emboldened by a sort of neo-homophobic cultural movement that makes them feel 'progressive' to shit all over lesbians. It's sucks that things have gotten this bad, it really does. Engaging with them won't help much. If that person really is a lesbian, she'll wake up sooner or later on her own. If she's not, then there's no point traumatising yourself trying to get through. Focus on finding the lesbians who already know what's going on, and build connections there.

I have no idea what the ages are like here. There are quite a lot of young lesbians on Spinster (at least going by those who share their ages in their profile).

[–]throwaway080808[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah, that's the reason why I created a twitter account in the first place. I've found some lesbians there which is great and a few days ago I finally found a lesbian who speaks my native language and contacted her, which is even better. I'll take a look at Spinster, thanks for your suggestion and your message.

[–]writerlylesbian 8 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Turns out there are also a lot of young lesbians on here too, which is great to see. (I'm an old dinosaur lez)

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    [–]reluctant_commenter 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Lesbians are endlessly accused of being hateful, bitter and discriminatory by woke homophobes but if those accusations were true, we'd probably be in a much better position right now.

    Well, I don't know about being outright hateful to people. But I absolutely agree about having more boundaries. That is probably what they are calling "hateful and bitter" anyway.

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      [–]reluctant_commenter 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Ah okay! That makes a ton of sense, thanks for clarifying. I had hoped not but I saw someone else comment something similar in s/LGBdroptheT the other day and actually mean that, so I figured I would comment in case. :)

      [–]throwaway080808[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      I absolutely agree with you! I'm seriously getting tired of the inclusivity thing.

      Thanks for your message.

      [–]oofreesouloo 24 insightful - 1 fun24 insightful - 0 fun25 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      I feel you. I'm 22 years old and I'm still shocked, because things a couple of years before looked so bright for lgbt people and look where we are now 😣 I really don't want to be part of the lgbtwtf community, I've never felt so much alienated from it like now. I just wanted not to be associated with them, but as much as I wanted, I simply can't because I can't help being lesbian 😅 I honestly just try not to think much about it and try to stay away from the community the most I can, because they're the ones hurting us the most currently and I prefer 100000x to be with regular straight people who won't shame for nor liking d*ck nor will do mental gymnastics when we're speaking. Meanwhile, I also focus my energy on finding another "TERFs" hehe 😁 I try to think positive overall, but it is hard.

      [–]throwaway080808[S] 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      honestly at this point, straight people >>>> gay people lol

      Thanks for your message.

      [–]SillyGoose 24 insightful - 1 fun24 insightful - 0 fun25 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

      As a lesbian younger than you (16), I completely agree with this. I felt so guilty not being attracted to men at all that I ended up getting convinced that I had to be a "trans man", as if is impossible to just be a lesbian. Even now, despite knowing I am a lesbian, the "woke" people still make me feel bad. Being bi or pan is "cool" now and "sexuality is fluid", so being a lesbian isn't supported much. Honestly, the trans movement and its allies have hurt me way more than the run of the mill homophobes have at this point. I don't even know any other lesbians at my age, everyone is bi, pan, or trans now. It feels so isolating.

      [–]RedditHatesLesbians 23 insightful - 1 fun23 insightful - 0 fun24 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

      Also 16 here! What's helped me is honestly just getting my mind as far from all this as possible. It sucks we don't have spaces or communities, but this forum really helps and I've been spending most of my time learning bass and martial arts and trying to make myself a more well rounded person. In the future, all of these people who made their entire personality being a nonbinary demi pan lesbian will be dull as rocks. Don't feel bad about yourself because we're the sane ones here, without a doubt. Like minded people in our age bracket do exist, so don't lose hope. Like for centuries of lesbians, your self love has to come from only within and niche groups again. But lesbians made it through all the hardships we've faced up until now and we always will. Lesbians will always exist, while these people are a modern phenomenon. Take heart.

      [–]oofreesouloo 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Awesome answer! :D

      [–]throwaway080808[S] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      Bass is awesome, rock on!

      I don't know if this message was directed at SillyGoose or me but I really appreciated it, thanks a lot! It gives me perspective.

      [–]RedditHatesLesbians 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      Directed at anyone who needs it :)

      [–]throwaway080808[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      you're awesome ♥

      [–]reluctant_commenter 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      been spending most of my time learning bass and martial arts and trying to make myself a more well rounded person. In the future, all of these people who made their entire personality being a nonbinary demi pan lesbian will be dull as rocks.

      That's awesome you're doing that stuff! Honestly, having real hobbies is underrated. And I would guess that all of the mental gymnastics and online forum reading that a "nonbinary demi pan lesbian" would have to do, takes up a lot of time.

      Lesbians will always exist, while these people are a modern phenomenon. Take heart.

      Yup, nailed it. It's so, so fascinating to think about how weird this will all seem to people in 10-20 years! But the writing's on the wall, it's going to happen.

      [–]SillyGoose 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Having real hobbies is great! Bass is super cool. I spend a lot of time practicing percussion instruments for my school concert and marching band and love being inolved in theatre productions. I appreciate the comment, it definitely makes me a little more optimistic.

      [–]xAcidRainx 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Very well said!

      [–]throwaway080808[S] 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

      My lesbian cousin actually told me the same thing about questioning whether or not she was a trans man because people at her university told her it was transphobic to like only one sex, as a lesbian. I really feel like people expect women to accept everyone and everything way more than they do men.

      I feel exactly the same. In the end, I feel like the LGBT community has made me hate myself as much as (if not more) the homophobes have. What a sad commentary. I hope you're doing fine, if you need to talk send me a DM.

      [–]SillyGoose 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      Honestly, it is ridiculous. I never see straight men targeted in this way for only liking women, so why is it different for lesbians? It is sad that it happened to your cousin as well. I'm doing alright now for the most part even if I still feel guilty occasionally, but thank you for the offer.

      [–]throwaway080808[S] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      It's pathetic, really. Sometimes I wish I was a straight man because straight men seem to be immune from everything lol. I hope you'll end up being the proudest lesbian ever, take care of yourself.

      [–]Astrid2448 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      I can completely understand why she feels that way. I’ve even seen trans men talking about how they were always exclusively interested in women, but when they started identifying as a man it suddenly became way more acceptable to like women. That no one questioned it anymore.

      [–]throwaway080808[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Oh no that's just super sad

      [–][deleted] 22 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 0 fun23 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

      You're not the only one. Lesbians young and old are smelling the crap in the coffee and wondering how any of this was allowed to go on for so long. It is homophobia, pure and simple, and I'm sorry you went through this.

      You did the right thing. We just ned to keep telling the truth, because nothing will change if we don't act.

      [–]queerone 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

      Also, it's Twitter. Some people just love to play headgames on social media for their own twisted sense of satisfaction and to escape their lousy life.

      [–]throwaway080808[S] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

      It was like my first time engaging that kind of conversation with someone on twitter and it will definitely be the last time lol I'm too sensitive for that kind of thing

      [–]queerone 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

      Social media can be as damaging as it can be therapeutic, unfortunately. Back in the day us old geezers could log off our desktop computers and chill. Do you have any older IRL people you could talk to about this or have the opportunity to make a rapport with?

      [–]CJLez 10 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

      I remember when the only social media drama I heard about was people moaning that they used to be someone's 3rd top eight friend on myspace and now they were their 4th.

      It was a simpler time.

      [–]queerone 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

      A simpler time was before the Internet, period. I remember that time. Much more patience in society then, by gum.

      [cue falling asleep in front of her smartphone]

      [–]throwaway080808[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Not at all, I don't even have people my age to talk to about this. But I'll try to get in touch with some people from here and distance myself from social media a bit. Thanks for your message.

      [–]throwaway080808[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Thanks for your kind message ♥

      [–]WildwoodFlower 22 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 0 fun23 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      Transactivists only care about themselves. They are also masters at manipulating well-meaning people with all their "I'll kill myself" talk.

      [–][deleted] 16 insightful - 4 fun16 insightful - 3 fun17 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

      And if you threaten the same thing...some of them would offer to help lol.

      [–]reluctant_commenter 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

      Hey, I'm in my early 20s and I completely feel you! It is really disorienting to know that my friends / age peers are all on the trans hype train and would act hostile towards me if I suggested that the trans community is seriously harming lesbians and gay men (let alone question the trans community and its ideology). A lot of my friends all think JK Rowling's a transphobe which really sucks.

      Quite frankly, I have no idea where everyone else our age is who's a lesbian, is. I have a friend my age who is also a lesbian, but I don't think she is plugged in to the trans stuff at all, or even to social media much in general; I do think there are more of us!

      If you want to talk, I'm down to swap stories. I am still figuring out how to navigate the transgender topic while not giving ground on my sexuality-- we'll see how my conversations with friends go.

      [–]queerone 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      I'm 40. You give me hope for the future, kid. 🙂👍

      [–]reluctant_commenter 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      That's super sweet, thanks :')

      [–]throwaway080808[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      I think there are more of us too and I can't help but feel concerned about them because of how I personally deal with this whole situation.

      I'd love to talk a bit with you, I'm gonna send you a DM.

      [–]CatsOrGoHome 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      I feel you. When I peaked I basically peaked lgbt. I was so upset by the amount of brainwashing I had been exposed to and disappointed in myself for retweeting harmful things about my own community. The amount of gaslighting we are treated with is unbelievable. Every single letter and their mother hates lesbians with so much passion and vitriol, that it feels like getting hit by a car when you realize. Lesbians are constantly fed that everything is unicorns and rainbows in our community by people pretending to be us, that lesbians think it is and can't believe when it is not so and wake up to the abuse we receive.

      [–]throwaway080808[S] 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      The other day, someone on twitter argued that TERFs were recruiting lesbians who feel alienated from the LGBT community to push their agenda. I thought to myself: but maybe those people should wonder why some lesbians feel alienated from their community in the first place, no?

      I hope more people will peak and I hope you're doing fine. Thanks for your message.

      [–][deleted] 16 insightful - 2 fun16 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

      People like this will either stop being lesbians, or start being terfs. You just have more ability to reason. You’re not alone, you’re right, and other women will eventually catch up to you. Don’t let anyone convince you how you feel about our label, lesbian, is wrong. We know what it means, so do they, or they wouldn’t try so hard to confuse the issue.

      [–]throwaway080808[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Thanks for your message, I needed to hear that.

      [–]adultxhumanxfemale 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

      If you find engaging with these """lesbians""" mentally harmful then just don't. You aren't required to turn them into sane, critical thinking people. Working on yourself by engaging in hobbies you enjoy, increasing your educational pursuits, and just generally focusing on yourself is a far better use of your time at this age when everything is so confusing and you're just trying to find your place in the world.

      Life requires mental fortitude and lots of it. So why waste a single moment using finite energy on people who are definitely not worth it?

      [–]throwaway080808[S] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

      Yeah you're right, I'll try to do that! Honestly the reason why it's so hard for me to just get over it is because I feel like many other lesbians are in this same situation but I can't help them and it burns me up. It's like I know people are suffering and I could do something but I don't know what to do. Anyways, this might be that I'm too empathetic.

      Thanks for your message.

      [–]reluctant_commenter 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

      Honestly the reason why it's so hard for me to just get over it is because I feel like many other lesbians are in this same situation but I can't help them and it burns me up.

      I relate to this TON. I know it might seem like it's not a solution, but someone else mentioned hobbies, and honestly I think one of the best things we can do is work on ourselves and model the behavior we want to see in the world. I try to make progress on my goals, because I'm like: Where do I want to be when I am 30 and I look back on all this? Would I be pissed if my whole personal growth arc was slowed or negatively affected by wasting too much time arguing with deluded ideologues?

      I am also very easily affected by people being negative so I am trying to just stick to supportive groups for now haha. Oh, and talking to my IRL friends about it a little, because I think that it's more likely to persuade them anyway.

      [–]throwaway080808[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

      Glad to know you can relate. This is all great advice that I definitely need to apply to my life right now but it seems to take awhile to be like 'Ok, now I focus on myself only, I do me'. Still haven't taken this step but it will eventually happen for sure. At the moment, I'm practicing for the driving theory test in order to get my driving license in the future and I have many other projects so that's some great baby steps!

      You're totally right and I know exactly where I want to be when I'm 30 so I should keep my energy to achieve my goals. Off-topic but I also appreciated that you said you're easily affected by negativity around you too because sometimes I feel like I'm exaggerating but I simply don't know how to stop being so sensitive. Anyways, thanks for your message!

      [–]reluctant_commenter 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      That sounds like some awesome stuff you're working on! Good luck with the driving theory test.

      but it seems to take awhile to be like 'Ok, now I focus on myself only, I do me'. Still haven't taken this step but it will eventually happen for sure.

      I getcha. I like to think of it as a skill that I practice, rather than a feeling. I saw a quote recently along the lines of "Motivation is a drug, consistency is a choice" and I really relate to that.

      Yeah, no I definitely am easily affected by negativity. For me, growing up, I had to be very quick at reading the room and I grew up in a very negative, hurtful family-- coupling that with having a lot of compassion and "what if this was me?" thoughts for people, and there you have it, lol.

      I don't believe you're exaggerating-- or that it's a bad thing that you are very sensitive. I think that a) all your feelings are real and worth paying attention to and considering, and at the same time, b) that your feelings might not reflect reality. Acknowledging both of those at once helps me a lot, I think.

      For example, say I see a post from a self-described lesbian about how lesbians must be okay with dick or they are transphobic. I would probably feel distress, and maybe start worrying about how awful I would feel if I felt compelled to say such a thing, as a lesbian. The person who said it must be hurting. But, in reality, I would have no idea if they were a real lesbian, a misguided straight woman claiming to be lesbian, or a transgender-identified man claiming to be a lesbian. The odds are, it's not worth it for me to engage with them, but that doesn't mean my own feelings about it are exaggerated or worth any less. Does that sorta make sense?

      Sorry for the wall of text, lol. Hope that is helpful and not more confusing!

      edit: I just want to add, I think being sensitive is a gift. I wish more people were more sensitive, they might be more thoughtful in their words and actions if they are. You don't have to change how you are, but you are worth the same sensitivity towards how something might affect you, as much as how it affects other people. :)

      [–]throwaway080808[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      Wow, you may be easily affected by negativity but you sure know how to bring positivity back! Thanks a lot for your kind message and your time, that's very sweet of you. I wish more people were as compassionate as you are, you're amazing. And I agree with you on everything, I actually had the same kind of reflection but you know, it's different when you hear it from somebody else? I feel like I'm talking to myself. Thanks again, you're probably the nicest person I've ever encountered on the Internet. Much love

      [–]reluctant_commenter 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Aww, that's really sweet of you to say, shucks lol. Means a lot to me. Of course, no problem! If you want to talk more just message me. :) Yup I totally hear you, it does reinforce the idea a lot to hear it from someone else. Much love to you too, take care!

      [–]CJLez 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      Anyways, this might be that I'm too empathetic.

      As someone who is a chronic helper/fixer - the saying 'you can't pour from an empty cup' is a good one for you to keep in mind. If you spend so much time helping people that you crash and burn yourself out you won't be able to help anyone. It's better to only do what you can (and if you need a 100% break from reaching out to people then that is fine) and then have the capacity to be there if someone really needs you.

      [–]throwaway080808[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      You're absolutely right, I'll try to remember that. Thanks!

      Edit: Can I send you a DM to talk about that? I'd interested to know what you have to say.

      [–]VioletRemi 14 insightful - 4 fun14 insightful - 3 fun15 insightful - 4 fun -  (5 children)

      If they were thinking about other people, maybe they would realize that they are harmful to others around, but they are thinking only about themselves, sadly.

      And most of their actions are very homophobic, and those "gender stereotypes" are so inherently and extremely sexist that I am surprised anyone at all is buying that. However, seems that world is much more sexist and homophobic that I thought, and they were just hiding their hate, waiting good moment to strike us back with tries to remove all we have achieved to ourselves with blood and sweat.

      [–]throwaway080808[S] 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

      Yeah, that's how I feel to some extent too. I find it so ironic that feminists came and said 'GENDER IS A SOCIAL CONSTRUCT, WE NEED TO ABOLISH IT' and some bored teenagers on tumblr were like 'omg I love this concept, let's create hundreds of them'. The worst part about it is that some feminists do support them because they don't want to offend anyone. At this point, I feel like only radical feminists make sense. I hope things will get better soon. Thanks for your message.

      [–]VioletRemi 9 insightful - 4 fun9 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

      some feminists

      I can't call neo-liberal feminism as feminism, as it is "for everyone and to make everyone equal". And to do it with speaking and social means, no real changes requested. What makes no sense. Like my friend says "if it is for everyone then it is communism, not feminism".

      [–]WildwoodFlower 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

      I think of it as regressive feminism, or male-centered feminism. Liberal/neo-liberal has other connotations that are more related to economics than whether trans women are women.

      [–]VioletRemi 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Well, male-centered feminism is not feminism at all, by definition.

      [–]throwaway080808[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      fair point

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        [–]throwaway080808[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Tbh I've seen some bad shit in real life too but as you said, these people are ... something else, to say the least.

        I absolutely agree with you, it really makes you wonder why these people identify out of their gender/sex (not talking about people who really do experience severe dysphoria tho). What are they trying to escape from? Are they trying to escape from themselves? Are they trying to literally become someone else?

        It's obviously not the same thing as identifying as literally the opposite sex but I find it sad that the general public doesn't seem to question why some young people want to identify as anything else but men or women. Some of them obviously just wanna be interesting but I'm afraid that others may just want to find a way to escape from themselves for different reasons and unfortunately, the LGBT community is almost encouraging this self-hatred. New gender-identities like non-binary etc have nothing to do with us and if anything, the LGBT community is NOT helping these people.

        I feel like now the LGBT community has become the perfect place for people who might feel alienated from their peers or different from the norm, who don't have friends and would do anything to be a part of a community. That's we have so many frankly unecessary, irrelevant and useless labels, it's because some people just want to find a community even if it's not meant for people like themselves.

        And then of course, I could also talk about the fact that most transgender people now are FTM which certainly is not a coincidence.

        I don't know how or when this madness will stop but hopefully all the damages done will be fixed. I can't wait for some celebrity or some band to bring the androgyny from the 80's back. I know this will happen, history always repeats itself!

        [–]RedditVihaaLesboja 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        I'm in my mid-twenties and your text could have been written by me 5 years ago. The homophobia, in my case from tumblr "ace community" and "inclusionists", actually contributed to my depression because it wasn't just online but irl as well.

        What helped to feel not so alone was communities like this, even if they're super hard to find nowadays, they're more important than ever.

        My DMs are always open if you want to talk :)

        [–]throwaway080808[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Wow, I feel you. I hope you're doing better now and yes I'd love to talk with you so I'll probably send you a DM!

        [–]CJLez 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

        I'm 33 so I'm at the age range where you can't tell if someone is a TRA or not (I'd guess maybe 2/3 self identified lesbians my age would be TRAs). You might find that you have more in common with older lesbians and that, if you know them enough to confide in them safely about your views, they might also know other younger ones who also spoke to them and can help you connect to them. You can get TRAs at any age but I'd feel safer letting someone older than me know my views than someone younger. If you have a local rad-fem group you might find some like-minded young people there.

        I've also heard quite a few rumours on online forums that, here in the UK, some lesbians are forming underground invite-only meetups at their homes where they can talk freely and be safe. It sounds both promising and heartbreaking if that's true.

        [–]throwaway080808[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        Aw thanks I haven't thought about that! This is a great idea.

        [–]WildwoodFlower 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        It's a great idea for lesbians who are already well-connected enough to be invited to these groups. But the isolated women who need them most won't know where/how to find them.

        [–][deleted]  (3 children)


          [–]throwaway080808[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

          You're right! Can you suggest to me any lesbian-centered documentary that you liked?

          Yeah I feel the same, honestly I got very emotional yesterday but reading all your comments has helped me a lot and I feel much more reassured and calm now. Someone commented that no matter what, lesbians will always exist and this comment really stuck with me. In the end, I think that's all I need to remember. Thanks for your time, now I feel like the only way I can ensure a brighter future for all of us and especially the younger ones is by first working on myself to make sure I will be strong enough to help and protect others the day they need it. I need to strenghten my spirit so thanks for the strenght you give me!

          [–][deleted]  (1 child)


            [–]throwaway080808[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            Thank you so much :) hehe I'm glad this discussion is also helpful to you!

            [–]lmaonope333 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

            wow, I could've wrote the exact same thing. I'm also 19yo

            [–]throwaway080808[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

            yay 19 yo twin

            How are you dealing with all of this?

            [–]lmaonope333 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

            I'm not

            [–]throwaway080808[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            are you okay?? send me a DM if you wanna talk, us dykes gotta support one another

            [–]plumedoomer 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            Because they don't care.

            "Woke" is newspeak for sleepwalking.

            Just a bunch of tantrum throwing losers trying to feel "valid" and morally superior.

            [–]Astrid2448 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            It has been really painful for me to realize that it’s not that they don’t know, but that they don’t care. We have a conflict of interest and for all their talk of being lesbians, it shows that they aren’t in how they treat actual lesbians. At this point I prefer to just stay away from them as it’s a very toxic and homophobic environment.