Indoctrination / DoublethinkCatch-22: When you want to have gay sex, but it has to be PiV sex

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[–]Neo_Shadow_LurkerPronouns: I/Don't/Care 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Again with the incel thinking. Characterizing a gay/bisexual man who tried to be into vagina or work around it as a "liar" is gross.

I'm going to play devil's advocate here and say this: he brought this upon himself.

He chose to delude himself into believing this shitty relationship would work, he chose to believe in TRA bs and chose to valitade her delusions.

What he got from this? A shitty relationship and an unhappy partner, that's it.

Play shitty games, gain shitty prizes.

[–]hufflepuff-poet 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I don't think that's all the way fair, depending on his age and social circle, in some spaces the pressure for homosexuals to deny our homosexuality and be open to straight trans people is intense and coming from inside the house! Young homosexuals are being told homosexuality includes opposite sex trans people and that if they disagree they are the problem, for a young homosexual in heterosexual society this can be really damaging

[–]Neo_Shadow_LurkerPronouns: I/Don't/Care 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

This is a more of a online thing from my experience, as pushing this shite outside of twitter is something TRAs are still unconfortable with.

But even then, it's up to him to get on his feet and say no, because as this post proves, it's pointless to play pretend because these fucks will never be satisfied, never.

  • You do not validate an Aideen by pretending they're gay men? You're a transphobe who is literally killing trans people.

  • Do you pretend an Aideen is a gay man but isn't open to having sex with her? You're a transphobe who is literally killing trans people.

  • You don't want to fuck an Aideen in the exact way she wants you to? You're a transphobe who is literally killing trans people.

You see how shit this is? You can't will, never.

The only way to win is not to play.

[–]reluctant_commenter 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm going to play devil's advocate here and say this: he brought this upon himself.

Did he? All we know is that he originally said, "Sure I'm fine with vagina," and then he changed his mind. He could well have been, say, sexually inexperienced and thought it would be no biggie to have PiV because he had no idea what he was talking about. Considering the average age on LGBT subreddits skews very young, I wouldn't be surprised if this were the case.

This woman is shaming the guy for changing his mind about a sex act. That is wrong and in my opinion, is borderline rapey behavior same as if an AGP male had done it. And if a straight man did that to a straight woman, people would be up in arms and for good reason.

[–]Neo_Shadow_LurkerPronouns: I/Don't/Care 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Did he? All we know is that he originally said, "Sure I'm fine with vagina," and then he changed his mind. He could well have been, say, sexually inexperienced and thought it would be no biggie to have PiV because he had no idea what he was talking about. Considering the average age on LGBT subreddits skews very young, I wouldn't be surprised if this were the case

Yes, when he decided to cave and actively validate her delusions he sealed his own fate in this doomed relationship.

It's important to acknowledge the role of TRAs in brainwashing gays and lesbians but also personal responsability.

I hope this served for him to learn to be a little more critical of this shit in the future.

This woman is shaming the guy for changing his mind about a sex act. That is wrong and in my opinion, is borderline rapey behavior same as if an AGP male had done it. And if a straight man did that to a straight woman, people would be up in arms and for good reason.

Agreed.

The people on the comments shaming the guy for not giving up his boundaries are horrible human beings and shouldn't be given a free pass.