Indoctrination / DoublethinkCatch-22: When you want to have gay sex, but it has to be PiV sex

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[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 23 insightful - 3 fun23 insightful - 2 fun24 insightful - 3 fun -  (9 children)

From the comments:

He said piv was okay, but it isn't. He lied--to himself and then to you.

Again with the incel thinking. Characterizing a gay/bisexual man who tried to be into vagina or work around it as a "liar" is gross. LGBTQ cultists are always telling us we must be "inclusive," "open-minded," not "gatekeep" (have boundaries), and give trans people a chance and not judge them by their genitals. Now you're a liar if you try sexual activity that you end up not being into. Imagine if it was a male OP writing about his girlfriend saying she would be willing to try [insert sex act] and then realizing she doesn't like it. Probably wouldn't elicit the same comment.

On the flipside, this also does go with what I've said before, which is that there is a market out there for bisexual or straight men to lie about being gay in order to have anal and other kinds of sex with women who want to be validated as trans men. These are weird times we're living in.

[–]Neo_Shadow_LurkerPronouns: I/Don't/Care 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Again with the incel thinking. Characterizing a gay/bisexual man who tried to be into vagina or work around it as a "liar" is gross.

I'm going to play devil's advocate here and say this: he brought this upon himself.

He chose to delude himself into believing this shitty relationship would work, he chose to believe in TRA bs and chose to valitade her delusions.

What he got from this? A shitty relationship and an unhappy partner, that's it.

Play shitty games, gain shitty prizes.

[–]hufflepuff-poet 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I don't think that's all the way fair, depending on his age and social circle, in some spaces the pressure for homosexuals to deny our homosexuality and be open to straight trans people is intense and coming from inside the house! Young homosexuals are being told homosexuality includes opposite sex trans people and that if they disagree they are the problem, for a young homosexual in heterosexual society this can be really damaging

[–]Neo_Shadow_LurkerPronouns: I/Don't/Care 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

This is a more of a online thing from my experience, as pushing this shite outside of twitter is something TRAs are still unconfortable with.

But even then, it's up to him to get on his feet and say no, because as this post proves, it's pointless to play pretend because these fucks will never be satisfied, never.

  • You do not validate an Aideen by pretending they're gay men? You're a transphobe who is literally killing trans people.

  • Do you pretend an Aideen is a gay man but isn't open to having sex with her? You're a transphobe who is literally killing trans people.

  • You don't want to fuck an Aideen in the exact way she wants you to? You're a transphobe who is literally killing trans people.

You see how shit this is? You can't will, never.

The only way to win is not to play.

[–]reluctant_commenter 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm going to play devil's advocate here and say this: he brought this upon himself.

Did he? All we know is that he originally said, "Sure I'm fine with vagina," and then he changed his mind. He could well have been, say, sexually inexperienced and thought it would be no biggie to have PiV because he had no idea what he was talking about. Considering the average age on LGBT subreddits skews very young, I wouldn't be surprised if this were the case.

This woman is shaming the guy for changing his mind about a sex act. That is wrong and in my opinion, is borderline rapey behavior same as if an AGP male had done it. And if a straight man did that to a straight woman, people would be up in arms and for good reason.

[–]Neo_Shadow_LurkerPronouns: I/Don't/Care 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Did he? All we know is that he originally said, "Sure I'm fine with vagina," and then he changed his mind. He could well have been, say, sexually inexperienced and thought it would be no biggie to have PiV because he had no idea what he was talking about. Considering the average age on LGBT subreddits skews very young, I wouldn't be surprised if this were the case

Yes, when he decided to cave and actively validate her delusions he sealed his own fate in this doomed relationship.

It's important to acknowledge the role of TRAs in brainwashing gays and lesbians but also personal responsability.

I hope this served for him to learn to be a little more critical of this shit in the future.

This woman is shaming the guy for changing his mind about a sex act. That is wrong and in my opinion, is borderline rapey behavior same as if an AGP male had done it. And if a straight man did that to a straight woman, people would be up in arms and for good reason.

Agreed.

The people on the comments shaming the guy for not giving up his boundaries are horrible human beings and shouldn't be given a free pass.

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

She can consult r/femaledatingstrategy on how to gaslight her boyfriend to have sex with her

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

That place has an interesting mix of people on the adversary and advocate sides, but I can’t say I’ve spent any time there. I assume it’s not for lesbians, or at least real ones.

[–]hunther 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It really isn't a good place for lesbians. It's good for doormat women trying to get out of abusive relationships but that's about it