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[–]MyLongestJourney 28 insightful - 1 fun28 insightful - 0 fun29 insightful - 1 fun -  (27 children)

The real WTF is that she attributes the notion lesbians are going extinct,to a white supremacist conspiracy.Queer theorists are insane cultists.

[–]Retardation_station[S] 21 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 0 fun22 insightful - 1 fun -  (25 children)

That's the part that's the most frustrating. Just slap the term "white supremacy" on anything and all of a sudden it's just a conspiracy theory that no one should pay attention to.

It's the go-to boogeyman for anyone who doesn't want the public to think too much.

I'm willing to bet that homosexuality in general will be "wHiTe SuPrEmEs" soon. It probably already is, according to TRAs.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (24 children)

The term "white supremacy" has become nothing more than a buzz word to silence people. There are people out there who wrongly believe that while people are superior to other races, true, but the overuse of that term has rendered it meaningless except as a way to shut people up.

[–]JulienMayfair 14 insightful - 13 fun14 insightful - 12 fun15 insightful - 13 fun -  (2 children)

I heard white supremacy killed the dinosaurs.

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 6 fun6 insightful - 5 fun7 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I heard that white supremacy causes volcanoes to erupt.

[–]Retardation_station[S] 11 insightful - 4 fun11 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 4 fun -  (20 children)

Just like the term, "nazi".

When I hear someone call another person a nazi, my first thought is, "Oh. That person probably just doesn't agree." Not, "Oh. A seig heil. Haven't seen one of those in the wild before."

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (19 children)

Exactly. I know people who call anybody right of centre "nazi". Needless to say, I avoid politics when I’m talking to them.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

Just right of center? Where I live nazi's are anyone to the right of pol pot.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

Ireland is woke, but most woke people here tolerate the centre right. Must have something to do with the fact that our government is centre right, yet supports woke and neoliberal policies like the self-ID gender identity law, mass immigration and COVID lockdowns. Which country do you live in?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

USA...and on top of that a hyper progressive area. The state is blue, the county is blue and the city is blue. Everything revolves around "righting the wrongs of the cis white male." I hate it.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

That’s fucked up. If it wasn’t for Florida, Texas, South Dakota and Arkansas, and other states like them, I’d write America off as a lost cause.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

Well the empire is fading fast. We might not have the all out civil war that fanatics on both sides want but the destruction of the country is well underway.

[–]Q-Continuum-kin 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm waiting for liberals to align enough with the TRA cultural authoritarians that trying to be for gay rights gets labeled as Russian propaganda.

They have both already convinced a large plurality of the US that both groups somehow represent leftist politics and that populism is now somehow right wing or alt right... Everything from gender to politics is completely on its head from what the actual definition of words mean and people will argue with you and defend the crazy propagandized definitions.

[–][deleted] 23 insightful - 1 fun23 insightful - 0 fun24 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Why would young lesbians want to identify as lesbian when that means they're going to be pressured into sex with males by an LGBT community that has become so incredibly lesbophobic? Of course they're looking for any and every way to escape the bigotry.

Lesbians are going extinct, and it's the LGBT community that's doing it. The only people who want to identify as lesbians now are straight men and bisexual women.

[–]hufflepuff-poet 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yep, lesbians are being pressured into sleeping with straight men or "becoming a straight man". Being a homosexual female is now a crime in the "LGBTQWTF community", that's so gay!

[–]Q-Continuum-kin 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Interesting, I wonder if identifying as NB is a secret way of back dooring into plain sexuality without being attacked constantly by TRAs...

[–]Dromedary 14 insightful - 7 fun14 insightful - 6 fun15 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

"humanities librarian Lynne Stahl — who’s been schooled in queer theory" — WHOA, I guess we all better shut up and listen! Her opinions are clearly more valuable than yours or mine. I bet she has a PhD in queerology, people! UGH , queer theory was once an interesting niche in college, now it's this monstrous ideology infecting everything.

[–]reluctant_commenter 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

If you're interested in this argument, it's been going on for a little while...

Here's an archive link to the "University Librarian: It's Transphobic to Say Lesbians Are Going Extinct" article from Washington Post: https://archive.is/G6JAI

It references this great article by Katie Herzog, "Where have all the lesbians gone?". Would recommend a read if you haven't seen it before!

One ridiculous claim, out of many, from the librarian article:

The degree to which some girls embraced these empowering options, however, prompted a backlash associating tomboyism and homosexuality.

Tomboyism and female homosexuality were already associated; "gender nonconformity" is much more common among women who are lesbian (or bisexual).

Notice how she uses the phrase, "lesbian extinction rhetoric." She is trying to other any discussion of the possibility that lesbians are going "extinct."

The most reasonable counterargument she COULD make, is that homosexuality is a phenomenon that arises naturally in nature and there is no chance of it going "extinct." But to make that claim, she would have to define "lesbian" as a homosexual, i.e. exclusively same-sex attracted, woman. And she doesn't believe that; she believes that the word "lesbian" is defined on the basis of gender, not sex:

By this, she meant that identity categories like “lesbian” are useful, since they’re key to securing civil protections and other rights that are tied to minority groups. But by the same token, she argued, those categories are too static, never truly capturing or describing the many individuals who use them. After all, knowing someone’s sexual identity — lesbian, straight or otherwise — tells us very little about that person except the gender to which they’re generally attracted.

(I wonder whether she's actually lesbian if that's how she defines "lesbian," but whatever.)

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

The masculinity being much more common among homo women I guess is mix between nature and culture. Like a significant part of lesbians are naturally masculine but also another part want to fit a stereotype or not getting male attention. In the past there was this horrible Shane thing, even in Italy, when lesbians wanted to look like her. Today I see gender conformity is way more common and sought after.