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[–]ChunkeeguyTeam T*RF Fuck Yeah 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I think it started long before the current TRA driven rot set in. Slavic culture has long been very homophobic and quite misogynistic. Eastern Europe has been making considerable progress in some parts but I fear the TQ+ crap will reverse a lot of it

[–]PatsyStoneMaverique 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The TQ+ has convinced a lot of American Republicans that they were right about the gays.

[–]SuperGayIsOkay 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't think we will fully be able to see and comprehend the societal damage the TQ+ movement has caused to LGB until decades later. I am truly scared our progress on social issues has hit a major setback with the rise of trans activism infecting and demanding it control every single LGB space.

[–]jelloeel 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm sorry that I respond to this old post, but I'm tired of this uneducated generalization of Slavic culture (or just presenting it as barbaric in general! That's a Nazi narrative!), because it's incredibly complex. I don't deny that EE societies struggle with homophobia and misogyny, but every other society does in some way. We have a lot of issues, and we are solving them slowly but surely. We will get there, some countries slower than others, but I can see that things are getting better (Poland has been getting gay representation in media recently, too!). The TRA has sadly distanced a lot of people. What the Czech president recently said is what most Western Slavs feel like. The trans stuff is just weird and hard to understand.

Also, when talking about objective "misogynism" of cultures: it was England that had a "Wife selling" custom, at the same time Poland had Emilia Plater. And don't get me started on female snipers and pilots in Russian army during II WW, an idea that Western countries viewed as "barbaric" (Women are gentle creatures!!!).

Just adding my two cents. I can also mention that I live in "the gay capital of Poland" and I see rainbow flags every day. Media isn't always showing a true, realistic portrayal of the actual situation.

[–]xanditAGAB (Assigned Gay at Birth) 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

nope thats old school Russian homophobia. but i'm sure the gender ideology stuff has set lgb back even further there.

[–]SuperGayIsOkay 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Agreed; the TQ+ community takes for granted how much progress has been made in North America and Europe and acts as if there's no importance to campaigning for LGB causes any more. The reality is that there are many parts of the world like Russia that are still not LGB friendly whatsoever, and that where being killed for being gay or lesbian is a very real possibility.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This hits too close to home. One of the things I try to instill in the people who I’ll call “gender questioning” is to contextualize the state of gay rights worldwide, what rhetoric is associated with it, and how gender identity ideology has stymied progress elsewhere.

It hurts my heart too.