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[–]RationalNeutral 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I understand the etymology

mentally ill people who have been brainwashed into thinking it’s possible to change sex

Then why you do keep conflating gender with sex?

[–]absoluteblasphemy 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Because “gender” is a term for language and sex is a term for the body. The idea of “gender” as something different from sex came from feminist scholars who were taking about the “gender roles” as imposed on females, from there post modernists divorced it from sex to create “gender identity”.

This is what happens when we extrapolate and extrapolate, we lose and misunderstand the meaning of words. Now we can’t even agree on what they mean. However it’s very bold of you to come here and assume that gender is something different to sex; we don’t think that. They’re two words that refer to the same principal, male and female, they’re only different in their grammatical context.

[–]RationalNeutral 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

... So, if I understand this correctly your statement is that "Feminism invented gender until it was inconvenient so then it was like NO, NOT LIKE THAT."

As for comments on extrapolation, most of that extrapolation is based on hard science. I would encourage you to see transwomen as allies to feminist causes, but I'm not here to do that. I'm here to hear out your views to better inform my own.

[–]absoluteblasphemy 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I’m not a feminist, I actually think the conception of “gender roles” led us to this exact problem, that was my point so no you’re not correct. I’m also a very traditional woman so you are hot outta luck trying to convince me that confused men can be my “feminist allies”.

I don’t want men to be feminist allies, I want men to be men and women to be women.