Women believing in "misandry" are worse than women believing in "transphobia"

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[–]Vulptex 2 insightful - 6 fun2 insightful - 5 fun3 insightful - 6 fun -  (21 children)

And guess who was forced to endure those wars? That's right, almost exclusively men. And that's still the case. My female friends who are exactly like me have a right not to be forced into war but I have to sign up for selective service just because I have a dick.

Rape happens when mens' overactive sex drives malfunction, coupled with how testosterone destroys half the brain including almost everything emotional or empathetic. The reason men are more desperate for sex is because that is biologically their sole purpose in life. And your rape stats are certainly wrong, because when a woman rapes a man she gets away with it, and in fact HE usually gets accused of raping her!

The oppression issue stemmed from mens' jealousy of women. Not everyone, but most people, when being jealous behave selfishly and have a desire to bring the luckier person down and see them fail. However our primal instincts were still there the whole time. We still protected women, bought them gifts, and did everything for them like disposable machines. We let them actually have problems and didn't even let men shed a tear, parents even beat little boys to a pulp if they cried about anything while comforting their girls. Women have always been able to get away with more than men, and girls have always been able to get away with more than boys. And pretty much anything is socially acceptable for a woman, but men are expected to fit an extremely narrow ideal of manhood, from infancy. There used to be a lot of standards for women too, but still not even as many as men today.

I should also note, the oppression of women isn't relevant anymore, because it's been gone for over 50 years now. Unless, of course, you believe in reparations and punishing people for what their ancestors did.

[–]MarkTwainiac 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

My female friends who are exactly like me have a right not to be forced into war but I have to sign up for selective service just because I have a dick.

In the US there is no draft any more. As someone who remembers when the draft still occurred in the US, I can attest that registering for selective service is not at all the same as actually being drafted - or subject to the draft lottery and rules of the 60s and 70s.

However, I agree that male-only selective service registration is sexist and unfair. I think it should either be eliminated or apply to both sexes.

the oppression of women isn't relevant anymore, because it's been gone for over 50 years now.

You really need to expand your knowledge of the world. What is the case in the US or UK is far from the universal norm.

We let them actually have problems and didn't even let men shed a tear, parents even beat little boys to a pulp if they cried about anything while comforting their girls.

I'm sorry if this was the case in the social milieu in which you grew up. It's certainly not the norm universally. In the family I grew up in, my father, grandad and uncles were by far the biggest criers. None of my many male friends were beaten to a pulp for crying. They weren't beaten, shamed or punished at all for crying. Same goes for my sons and all their friends.

Since it seems you are from the USA, I assume that you know that the most famous crying person in US politics is former US Congressman John Boehner: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyxioZZdiTg

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 6 fun1 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 6 fun -  (4 children)

You really need to expand your knowledge of the world. What is the case in the US or UK is far from the universal norm.

Okay but how is giving women who already have female privilege even more special treatment going to change what happens in other countries?

I'm sorry if this was the case in the social milieu in which you grew up. It's certainly not the norm universally. In the family I grew up in, my father, grandad and uncles were by far the biggest criers. None of my many male friends were beaten to a pulp for crying. They weren't beaten, shamed or punished at all for crying. Same goes for my sons and all their friends.

This was back in the olden days. I thankfully didn't grow up in that environment, but I still faced the threat of more minor punishments if I cried. Or didn't level up to the high standards set on me. And it still affects me, because society scolds men for showing any weakness. We're severely underdiagnosed with depression because people treat it like we're expected to deal with it, even though it's the end of the world if a woman gets it. If I cry, I am accused of being a spoiled brat and manipulating people. If a woman cries she's coddled and validated beyond reason. Because I'm a mean ugly man, and she's a gorgeous innocent female with sparkly eyes. Even social norms are like this. Women can do pretty much whatever they want no problem. But men have to fit the stereotype of man who works 9 to 5, has a wife and 2.5 kids, and is obsessed with sports and sex, and has no emotion at all, otherwise we're casted out. And it's all because women are inherently valuable just for existing, whereas men are only as valuable as what they do for women and children and working.

[–]MarkTwainiac 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

This was back in the olden days.

Wow, that's some ageism, mate. The statement I made that you quoted covered male people born in the US from the 1890s through the late 1990s.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 6 fun1 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 6 fun -  (2 children)

How the fuck is that ageist? It's a known fact that most adults were physically abusive to children until recently. And that doesn't mean they were sadists, because they faced enormous pressure to keep their kids in line and this is what they were told to do, especially to boys. That doesn't imply that they are like that just because of their age.

[–]MarkTwainiac 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

You said the experiences of the people in the USA of multi generations over more than 100 years I cited all occurred

back in the olden days.

That's ageism. You seem to think that only people of your own age/generation and very narrow experience and specific cultural milieu count and constitute the norm.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 4 fun1 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Are you saying we should take action to solve problems for a completely different time period? That doesn't make any sense.

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

coupled with how testosterone destroys half the brain including almost everything emotional or empathetic.

Testosterone is actually neuroprotective.

And your rape stats are certainly wrong, because when a woman rapes a man she gets away with it, and in fact HE usually gets accused of raping her!

^^ this

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 7 fun1 insightful - 6 fun2 insightful - 7 fun -  (13 children)

Testosterone is actually neuroprotective.

Incorrect, that's actually estrogen that's neuroprotective. Testosterone is literally poison that kills the body, and since men are expendable our bodies make the sacrifice to become stronger so we can impress girls more. If you happen to not want to do that, too bad, your body will still spend every last resource on that and only that alone till it's the only thing you can do. Men get the rough end of the deal, the only thing women have to deal with is their uterus and less physical strength, both of which are easily treatable with modern innovations.

[–][deleted] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15591638/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33411236/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32087283/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5332478/

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 6 fun1 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 6 fun -  (11 children)

https://news.yale.edu/2006/09/26/elevated-testosterone-kills-nerve-cells

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2048656/

And testosterone kills all the other organs too. This is why women live longer, and why their hair doesn't fall out.

[–]MarkTwainiac 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

If you think women's hair doesn't fall out, you are basing your entire view of women on pre-menopausal women and women in robust good health. After menopause, major hair loss is the norm for female people. Same goes for women with many health conditions.

Moreover, women don't live longer coz we have less T than men. It's coz we have XX chromosomes.

Female people are not simply males with lower T, or with male bodies that "boobs and tubes" have been added to as you seem to think.

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Female people are not simply males with lower T, or with male bodies that "boobs and tubes" have been added to as you seem to think.

They do both develop initially as neuter, and the male reproductive system and the female reproductive system are almost entirely homologous.

Moreover, women don't live longer coz we have less T than men.

Testosterone might be associated with cardiovascular issues. Women are also smaller - within a species, smaller individuals tend to live longer (it's the opposite between species - larger species tend to have longer lifespans).

[–]MezozoicGay 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Men have around 20-30% faster metabolism, faster oxygenization of blood and body, bigger hearts and lungs (if same size and weight as women), faster blood delivery (while women can deliver more blood, just not as fast - I suppose for pregnancy), bigger percentage of red blood cells and faster regeneration and faster life-cycles of cells.

This means that body is oxidizing faster, cells are using chromosomal resource faster.

Only those facts are enough for us to die faster than women. And then we add low payment jobs/military which are exhausing body even faster, bigger risk of heart diseases because of bigger hearts, male on male violence - and we will get number even lower.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

Same thing, it still makes us miserable and have shorter lives just so we can be a little bit stronger

[–]MezozoicGay 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Being different does not mean being miserable.

<shrugging emoji>

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 4 fun1 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

If you think women's hair doesn't fall out, you are basing your entire view of women on pre-menopausal women and women in robust good health. After menopause, major hair loss is the norm for female people. Same goes for women with many health conditions.

It thins but doesn't bald like men.

Moreover, women don't live longer coz we have less T than men. It's coz we have XX chromosomes.

I think it was recently discovered that the Y chromosome doesn't actually do anything, it's the hormones. Everyone is initially female in the womb until the males are flooded with T.

Female people are not simply males with lower T, or with male bodies that "boobs and tubes" have been added to as you seem to think.

I know, you have pretty much everything except uterus pains and physical strength better than us.

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Everything is toxic at a high enough dose. At normal levels, testosterone is mostly beneficial.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 4 fun1 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

But we don't get it at a normal dose, we get 20x more of it.