My twin brother has just come out as a "woman"

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I just don't know what do to. I want it to be a weird prank so badly, but it isn't. He knows about my gender critical stance and probably hates me for it (calls me a TERF as well). In my eyes, it's a textbook case of transing. He had been watching anime and hentai for years now as well as being involved with friends that have similar interests. I guess it was just a matter of time before the cult got to him. From what I understand, he's planning on taking hormones and all the usual stuff. I really don't want him to ruin his body and become a medical patient for the rest of his life.

At the same time it's so surreal, he never showed any "feminine" behaviour or anything like it either. I just don't believe it, any of it. My mother doesn't approve of it either, luckily. So I'm not alone in this house. What do I do?

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[–]MezozoicGay 27 insightful - 5 fun27 insightful - 4 fun28 insightful - 5 fun -  (8 children)

At the same time it's so surreal, he never showed any "feminine" behaviour or anything like it either.

Does any of them do?

[–]LasagnaRossa 25 insightful - 1 fun25 insightful - 0 fun26 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

What even is feminine behavior? What we do is feminine because we're female, not the other way around.

[–]MezozoicGay 15 insightful - 4 fun15 insightful - 3 fun16 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

I suppose it is something like carrying for other people, not acting like entitled asshole. In majority of cases. Obvious sarcasm, but not completely.

[–]sisterinsomnia 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Doing the dishes, laundry, vacuuming, caring for infants and toddlers. Those are things assigned to women and girls in most cultures, though of course feminists have for long fought to make them jobs for everyone who lives in the same family (the same with male-assigned tasks).

I don't think TIMs think of being a woman in those terms, however, which is odd because if you really feel female inside from early childhood you would notice the chores that women do and would start doing them, too.

[–][deleted] 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I don't know but the whole Mermaids stuff is about transing kids that are non-conforming to stereotypes so yeah. That being said, I don't think most of them actually do.

[–]MarkTwainiac 22 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 0 fun23 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

But Mermaids, in a massive attempt to rewrite history and back pedal faster than the speed of light, is now claiming they never said any of that! Being trans has nothing to do with not conforming to gender stereotypes, they now say - and they're further claiming Mermaids has always been opposed to adults imposing strict gender conformity onto kids.

https://twitter.com/jackappleby/status/1309209311395155968?s=20

[–]goobandit 16 insightful - 6 fun16 insightful - 5 fun17 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

Look, my little Adam is positive he’s a Barbie girl in a Barbie world so if we decide to wrap him in plastic, it’s literal violence to tell us that it’s NOT fantastic!

[–]BEB 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

OP-

Go to this link on s/LGBDropTheT and scroll down. A poster has linked a video that shows the actual surgeries, in all their gory details, that TiMs and TiFs go through to get fake vaginas and fake penises.

Show your brother the video.

Good luck.

https://saidit.net/s/LGBDropTheT/comments/6gxw/are_there_any_other_gay_men_here_who_dont_believe/

[–]MonstrousRegiment 22 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 0 fun23 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's hard to know what you can do, but one thing that will be useful to you quite apart from the issue of your twin is to educate yourself about psychological self-defense. Learn what "grey rock" means, read The Gift of Fear and Why Does He Do That. Find out what narcissism is (if using the internet, beware Sam Vaknin and similar people). Read fierce feminists.

Good luck!

[–]Rationalmind 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Tell your brother to stop trying to emotionally manipulate your family and that he needs to look down at his genitals and concur there is an objective reality that he is male. He should accept it and not get brainwashed on internet propaganda.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I've tried talking to him as well as other (pro-trans) people and it always just ends up with blatant denial of biological sex and arguments that come down to "but muh feelings". Every time I ask them to define "man" or "woman", it's just "anyone who identifies as such" and they really don't seem to understand that it's circular logic. I've honestly just given up at this point. There's no reason talking to these people as they seem to be unable to have a meaningful conversation without calling me names.

I think I'll just let it be for now since he's not talking to me IRL and he's blocked me on WhatsApp. I just hope he finds the light for his own sake.

[–]LesbiSilly 12 insightful - 4 fun12 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

She's a woman now, so make her wash the dishes, do the laundry and see how long it lasts. No, seriously. Show your brother what it's really like to be z woman and I promise he will ditch it real quick.

[–]NeedMoreCoffee 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

How about you try and find some doctors who are not to big on transition that can try and explain all the side effects of hormones in painstaking details or who can help you find all the documentation for that.Including botched gender reassignment surgeries because i heard from detransitioners that noone really made quite clear to them all the fucked up things that go wrong.

Do you think he might be gay and is confused about that? He might not seem feminine but maybe he is attracted to men and has a stereotipical picture of flamboyant gay men in his head that does not fit him either? Or could it be a cry for attention or depression?

[–]denverkris 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Might be helpful if we knew his age range? Try asking him what his goals in life are. Does he want a family? If so, what type of person does he want to have one with?

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

We're both 19 years old. I don't think it's a good idea to talk to him about it, because he really doesn't want to. Even before he came out, it was taboo to talk about trans issues.

[–]jet199 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Remember that humiliation is part of the sissy fetish which leads into AGP so don't shame him too much.

Just ignore him and if he brings it up say "could you be any more of a stereotype?"

Make sure he knows he isn't special and isn't going to get any extra attention, positive or negative.

[–]Cicerosolo 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Agp is the background condition. We don't know what leads to it but all these behaviours are encouraged by the agp rather than the other way around

[–]jet199 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's not known. AGP rewrite their histories to claim they were always that way and they aren't reliable. Most likely personality disorders are the background condition because they are almost always present with AGP and are highly hereditary.

[–]jjdub7Gay Male Guest Commentator 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

How old is he? (and I guess, by extension, you)

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

We're both 19 years old.

[–]jjdub7Gay Male Guest Commentator 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You should tell your parents to limit his internet access. This sounds like pornsickness.

[–]SanityIsGC 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sounds like a horrible situation to be in givenhpw unexpected it is. I would say ask him some questions. Like when he started considering this. How did he feel growing up. Whether he thinks it associated with anime. Try to get a sense of his thinking process

[–]FearfulFriend 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm sorry. It must be like living in the upside down.

[–]MinisterOfTerfery 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It honestly just sounds like he's bored and is looking for something to occupy himself with. If he got a job, real life friends and hobbies he wouldn't be doing this.