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[–]FediNetizen 110 insightful - 17 fun110 insightful - 16 fun111 insightful - 17 fun -  (18 children)

That vaguely reminds me of a post that I think was on /r/GenderCritical a while ago. It was some screenshots of a thread from a trans group asked something along the lines of "Has anyone else had problems where once there's another [TiM] in a girl's group, the group tends to fall apart?"

The GC thread was about how none of them seemed to realize that even if normal woman say they're supportive, they can really only take so much of it before they decide to just fade.

One of the top comments in the screenshots suggested maybe starting a trans girl group instead, and the top reply was something like "I don't want to hang out and talk about dysphoria and stuff like that, I just want to be one of the girls".

And I remember thinking "oh, so you don't want to hang out with TiMs, yet can't seem to realize that same reasoning would also apply to you".

[–]Comatoast 68 insightful - 9 fun68 insightful - 8 fun69 insightful - 9 fun -  (0 children)

No, because some of them want to hover around women and attempt mimicry while doing nasty shit like fetishizing our periods.

[–]Aquadog 51 insightful - 10 fun51 insightful - 9 fun52 insightful - 10 fun -  (15 children)

lol wtf does being "one of the girls" even mean?

[–]vitunrotta 43 insightful - 28 fun43 insightful - 27 fun44 insightful - 28 fun -  (11 children)

Are you implying we don't all get together in our jammies and have a super cutesy pillow fight every night?! I am SHOCKED. Shocked, I say.

[–]FediNetizen 33 insightful - 4 fun33 insightful - 3 fun34 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

Are you familiar with the concept of autogynephilia?

[–]Aquadog 16 insightful - 5 fun16 insightful - 4 fun17 insightful - 5 fun -  (1 child)

"Girls think about themselves in their sexual fantasies, so they're the same as me."

[–]FediNetizen 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Actually there was a "study" that tried to prove this, but what the guy did is took one of Blanchard's surveys used to gauge AGP and changed the wording around so it applied to females. Except in doing that it also changed the meaning of a lot of the questions, which invalidates the results.

Taken from here

Moser (2009) reported the responses of 29 female hospital employees to his Female Autogynephilia Scale, which used items modified from scales originally devised by Blanchard (1985, 1989b) to measure autogynephilia and related traits (Lawrence, 2010b). About half of respondents reported at least occasional "autogynephilic" arousal. But Moser modified Blanchard's original language on the advice of female colleagues and friends, to better investigate the specifics of their self-reported arousal or to provide "needed context" (Moser, 2010a, p. 694). Consequently, Moser's modified items arguably did not adequately distinguish between being aroused by wearing sexy clothing or by imagining that a potential romantic partner finds one attractive — which natal women apparently do experience — and being aroused simply by the idea that one is wearing women's clothing or has a woman's body — which natal women probably rarely if ever experience (Lawrence, 2010b). Moser (2009) conceded that "It is possible that autogynephilia among MTFs and natal women are different phenomena and the present inventories lack the sophistication to distinguish these differences" (p. 544). Lawrence (2010b) argued that this was probable, on the grounds that Moser's items "fail[ed] to adequately assess the essential element of autogynephilia — sexual arousal simply to the thought of being a female" (p. 3).

[–]yousaythosethings 46 insightful - 12 fun46 insightful - 11 fun47 insightful - 12 fun -  (0 children)

"I don't want to hang out and talk about dysphoria and stuff like that, I just want to be one of the girls".

So they’re saying that trans women aren’t women? Go be one of the girls with your fellow trans girls bro.