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Let's have a gentlemen's bet between Trump and Biden supporters. by Aureus in debatealtright

[–]RealFerdinandFoch 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It seems like a good idea, although my predictions ended up being almost exactly the same as yours, so I'll just add a few on the margins.

IF BIDEN WINS:

1) The first two years of his term will be the most productive, but Joe will spend most of his time being pulled in half by the rabid shitlib side of the party and the old guard represented by the likes of Hillary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, etc. and not be very productive at any stage of his presidency.

2) Conspiracy theories (which are probably true) will start propagating among the more radical left wing that Biden is a puppet of the establishment types he will no doubt have in his cabinet, similar to the way people talk about Jared Kushner.

3) Ginsberg retires and is replaced by what might as well be a clone of herself.

IF TRUMP WINS:

1) Trump will continue to ignore his base and not take any real action to curtail immigration or protect US industry.

2) "Sanctuary Cities" and border enforcement in general will be a prominent point in the discourse. Trump will react very publicly to being directly called out as weak and try to rein the cities in, but he will not do so in a way that would actually improve his position even if things were to proceed as planned.

3) Ginsberg dies and is replaced by another cuckservative judge.

4) At least one health issue that the administration tries but fails to conceal from the public.

Edit: And a bonus, the UK finally leaves the EU and signs a terribly lopsided deal with the USA, regardless of who is elected president.

This one is addressed to non-alt-righters who would like to engage here, but it isn't a debate topic persay by [deleted] in debatealtright

[–]RealFerdinandFoch 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It says there are two comments here but I can only actually see Mr9to5's. Is shadowban a thing on this website or is it just having a moment?

What are some good Bitchute channels? by bug-in-recovery in debatealtright

[–]RealFerdinandFoch 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Morgoth's Review, The Alternative Hypothesis (though he doesn't post very often,) and Keith Woods are the three I keep up with. All pretty good stuff.

Question from a lurker by cloudrabbit in debatealtright

[–]RealFerdinandFoch 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

My question to you - what is your solution?

I can't speak for anyone but myself, but my list of political objectives for the United States on this topic is to shut down immigration (which has popular support, and it should, since almost nobody in the US except the capital class actually benefits from it) and make a real effort to both secure the border and remove illegal aliens, which is almost as popular and thanks to the response to Corona we now know is very possible. I would also consider other measures like encouraging other groups to emigrate to their countries of origin, or revoking citizenship from people who got it illegitimately like as a result of birth tourism (which is pretty common but profoundly silly - imagine applying the mechanics of a tower defense game to the physical integrity of the nation) but when you look at birth rates and population trends the previous things are actually all that's necessary to make the US start getting Whiter again, although it would take many generations and there are limits to how far that will go. It took us almost 60 years to get to this point, and I am willing to wait as long to fix it if need be.

Do you want to outbirth all the other races? That would require to have like 5 kids per family and would decrease quality of living, while essentially the whites still barely breaking even.

I do support having a large family for religious and personal reasons but I'm not under any illusion that it would be enough on its own WRT demographics (though it certainly wouldn't hurt,) and I understand it's not desirable for everyone. I'm not interested politically or morally in forcing people to reproduce, or not reproduce, if that's the implicit question here.

Do you want Western countries to be 100% white?

Ideally it would be at or very close to 100%. Multiculturalism always results in conflict and resentment and minimizing it is better for everyone. Small minorities usually aren't that big of a deal though, and for the USA specifically Amerindian populations would at least have to be considered.

But then what's a guarantee it would remain that way 100,200 years from now? Immigration policies change.

So? It's still undesirable and I'd want to do our best to keep it to a minimum. The fact we might fail isn't a deterrent in this and I don't really get how people could think this is some kind of gotcha. You are right though that this adds an element of urgency, which is why I think we should be trying to get incentives to leave on the table rather than just settling for ending mass migration.

Wouldn't a better solution involve making sure the overall quality of life rises enough so that the demographics slow down all across the world, rather than just in the west?

This can happen, and in fact is already happening, but that doesn't change our situation.

Which country would be best to flee to if things get hot in the US? by [deleted] in debatealtright

[–]RealFerdinandFoch 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The US isn't my ancestral homeland, why the hell should I fight a losing battle and die for a lost cause in lands that my ancestry runs two generations deep in?

It sounds like you already have an answer to your OP question then, at least for yourself.

Unironically believing the standard European cope of blaming America for everything they do wrong is dangerously shortsighted though. I also think it's delusional to think the USA will be noticeably injured by white flight, at least in our lifetimes. There's no scenario where Whites become ethnonationalists and leave fast enough to make a difference. Even if they wanted to it's unlikely they'd be allowed to by the governments of the countries they're trying to move to, and the people would in all likelihood see a tide of tens of millions of Americans coming into their country as yet another group of foreigners coming to displace them. Even in your best case scenario of complete US collapse the US isn't forcing European governments to be anti-White, their elites support it all on their own, and they have very sophisticated surveillance and policing systems they're perfectly capable of using to maintain their grip on power against an embattled, muzzled, and disarmed citizenry. As I see it the USA is the front line and the fight for control of it will end up being the decisive one.

Which country would be best to flee to if things get hot in the US? by [deleted] in debatealtright

[–]RealFerdinandFoch 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Nowhere. Even if running wasn't utterly contemptible you're not avoiding anything, at best you're just buying yourself a bit more comfort before the same thing you ran away from catches up to you, and pushing the problem onto your children.

What is your opinion on the current Russia bounty controversy? by Salos10000 in debatealtright

[–]RealFerdinandFoch 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

As an American I'm not happy about anything bad happening to American soldiers, even though I don't think they should be in those places to begin with. As an observer of international politics I'm not particularly surprised that Russia would be doing what little they can to make our occupations that much more costly. I also don't really see what USG could accomplish from forcing the issue with Russia even if they did know about it.

It happened guys. r/debatealtright was just banned a minute ago. by eth0 in debatealtright

[–]RealFerdinandFoch 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Nick Griffin caught a lot of flak a while ago for saying that White Westerners should all go and replace the peoples of Eastern Europe because they're more baste and don't have mass migration, and that he hoped to lead the charge. I hope it's homeschooling and parallel institutions he means and not just more nonsense like that.

Here is a list of all reddit users of debatealtright. Post in the comments which you have contacted and i'll remove them from the list by bruker in debatealtright

[–]RealFerdinandFoch 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

How were these collected? My reddit account (same name as this one) isn't on that list and I posted on r/DAR, albeit pretty infrequently, and if I was missed a lot of other people probably were as well.

Reddit's new TOS is essentially anti-White by riozoolander in debatealtright

[–]RealFerdinandFoch 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

protect groups of people who are in the majority

Waiting for r/Sino to be banned for denying ongoing genocides against ethnic minorities in Tibet and Xinjiang.