What is your opinion on the current Russia bounty controversy?

submitted by Salos10000 from self.debatealtright

I've seen conflicting claims about this event,whether Trump knew and so forth. What confuse me the most is why would Russia do it? A few dead US Soldiers is not worth the payments on these bounties, the potential for a major crisis and increased sanctions. It makes no sense at all. What is your take on it?

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[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Smells like bullshit.

Even it it's true it's not an act of war in my opinion. Lots of allies put bounties out on peoples soldiers for various reasons (and russia isn't even an ally so I'm not surprised they might have done something like this). Israel is also an Ally and they worked with the Saudis, neo con and the pentagon to orchestrate an attack on 3 buildings in the United States. 3 dead marines is nothing compared to 2,996 civilians dead and billions of theft on illegal trading.

[–]Salos10000[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

No please don't fall for stupid conspiracies blaming Israel for 9/11. Yes the Jewish people and Israel are our enemies but you make yourself look stupid as fuck and insane pushing bs like that.

[–]cisheteroscumWhite Nationalist 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Do you even dance, goy?

[–]paranoid_android3 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You are sorely mistaken.

https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-911-conspiracy-theories/

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Come back after watching Ryan Dawson's work on this.

[–]cisheteroscumWhite Nationalist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I'd be unsurprised if these bounties were real and I expect the ""deep state"" of the USA does the same thing. The US created the Taliban to fight the USSR, for instance. One among countless other examples of the so-called "good guys" funding/supporting violent idealogoues of any conviction as long as they fight the other side. That's just the reality of modern geopolitics

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Taliban came after the Soviet-Afgan War, it was formed as a pro-Pakistani group by Pashtun refugees in Pakistan in 1994 to defeat the other warring mujahid groups.

[–]cisheteroscumWhite Nationalist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well, it's more than I know but Im pretty sure the CIA trained Osama bin Laden

[–]RealFerdinandFoch 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

As an American I'm not happy about anything bad happening to American soldiers, even though I don't think they should be in those places to begin with. As an observer of international politics I'm not particularly surprised that Russia would be doing what little they can to make our occupations that much more costly. I also don't really see what USG could accomplish from forcing the issue with Russia even if they did know about it.

[–]Lostcarkeys 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The NYT is citing anonymous sources and every one else goes on the record denying it. That makes it about a 99% chance either NYT or their source pulled it out of their ass.

[–]arainynightinskyrim 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think that they are enraged that Russia ruined their plans in Syria (regime change) so they are desperately trying to find reason for the US to stay in the region and continue with their plans. The bounties are either fake or the CIA is involved in it.

[–]paranoid_android3 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

AFAIK it's total bullshit and lots of people are saying so including Sam Harris.