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[–]RealFerdinandFoch 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It seems like a good idea, although my predictions ended up being almost exactly the same as yours, so I'll just add a few on the margins.

IF BIDEN WINS:

1) The first two years of his term will be the most productive, but Joe will spend most of his time being pulled in half by the rabid shitlib side of the party and the old guard represented by the likes of Hillary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, etc. and not be very productive at any stage of his presidency.

2) Conspiracy theories (which are probably true) will start propagating among the more radical left wing that Biden is a puppet of the establishment types he will no doubt have in his cabinet, similar to the way people talk about Jared Kushner.

3) Ginsberg retires and is replaced by what might as well be a clone of herself.

IF TRUMP WINS:

1) Trump will continue to ignore his base and not take any real action to curtail immigration or protect US industry.

2) "Sanctuary Cities" and border enforcement in general will be a prominent point in the discourse. Trump will react very publicly to being directly called out as weak and try to rein the cities in, but he will not do so in a way that would actually improve his position even if things were to proceed as planned.

3) Ginsberg dies and is replaced by another cuckservative judge.

4) At least one health issue that the administration tries but fails to conceal from the public.

Edit: And a bonus, the UK finally leaves the EU and signs a terribly lopsided deal with the USA, regardless of who is elected president.

[–]ChancellorMershekel 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

If Biden wins:

  • Rapid increase in illegal entries from Mexico starting immediately when Biden takes office (January 2021?)
  • Whatever is left of historical Confederate or slaver statues go first. From there the historical revisionism quickly spreads (the Founding Fathers will survive Biden's term and will be some of the last to go, but even they only have decades at most).
  • Gun sales massively increase in response to rightful fears about pushes towards greater gun control. Any/every shooting spree that occurs will continue being used as ammunition to sway public opinion peace-meal to a pro-disarmament stance.
  • Infighting within the Democrats begins almost immediately (probably before Biden takes office, groups like Fox News focus on how weak/divided Biden's govt is, on his dementia or whatever he has, etc).
  • Biden doesn't last a full-term, probably resigns due to pressure from the progressives (someone like AOC might be just old enough to stand by 2024). Both they and the GOP attack him constantly over his gaffes, past comments, etc. (politics will largely be an 'I'm less racist than you' contest, with the GOP focused on 'based blacks', 'Hispanic family values', etc.).
  • Hostility to White Democrats generally increases. The Democrats have increasingly little need for them.
  • 'Cuckservatives' proclaim they'll be able to 'rebuild' the GOP because 'Trumpian populism' somehow 'ruined' it. No one cares and neocon/National Review-style conservatism continues to die out. GOP wouldn't have won in 2016 without Trump anyway.
  • Sites like AmRen, Counter-Currents, etc. probably deplatformed by 2024 (the ones that aren't are probably compromised).
  • COVID continues well into Biden's term, but eventually becomes a non-issue (global herd immunity sadly seems the only way out). Left-liberals have a lot of blood on their hands (travel bans [remember their reaction to Trump banning travel even from Europe?] are 'racist', cracking down on BLM protests is 'racist', not letting people return from overseas is 'racist', etc.) Strangely, nobody calls them out on the fact they're the only reason why this pandemic has gotten out of hand.
  • Opiate problem massively worsens. More stories of whole towns being 'decimated', etc.
  • Trump family leaves the country to avoid being treated like Assange. Perhaps he has enough dirt on key Democrats to be left alone, if not, they're going to have him jailed to appease the rabid mob. Alot of wealthier Americans simply leave—for real, not like those clowns who said they'd 'leave if Trump wins', yet are still American today.
  • Putin bad. Nothing actually happens with Russia other than sabre-rattling. Nonetheless, Russophobia becomes entrenched in American politics.
  • Collective insanity (rename this brand, change that label, stop using that bigoted word, start using this new word, everyone is -ist and -phobic, 'cancel culture') ramps up. More Leftists fall afoul of the mainstream and get salami-sliced out of the Left (hah... too bad for RadFems, etc.) but it does nothing to diminish their power.
  • Groups like BLM act with even greater impunity. This will even include arson, murder, etc. Remember the woman shot in the head recently for saying 'All Lives Matter'? And a lot of people commenting on her Facebook page that she 'deserved it'? That's going to get a whole lot worse these coming years.
  • They'll push for changes to things like the Electoral College (whatever worked to Trump's favour in 2016 they'll want gone).
  • Companies tow the line or go broke, but if they get too woke, they also go broke. This kind of unstable social situation is obviously 'bad for business' and will have obvious economic impacts. The Democrats will do nothing to restore American manufacturing (unlike Trump, who at least put some effort into it).

If Trump wins re-election (is Kanye West still standing, which would help Trump?) much of this (COVID, opiate problem, deplatforming) will happen regardless. Let the others speculate about a second Trump term.

[–]Aureus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Terrifying summary. Unfortunately I agree it's probably accurate. I hope it won't be that bad, but we'll see.

I agree that some of this may happen regardless even if Trump wins, but I believe it will be a lot less, and a lot easier to spin it as unjustified rather than "what the American people really want".

[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Biden half accurate but you're far too optimistic about Trump

Conservatives will still be able to organize and build power.

They have no power now I doubt this will change

Anti-immigration and America First policies will be vindicated in conservative circles. They will be seen as winning policies and core organizing principles for decades to come, both politically and culturally.

Why didn't that happen after 2016

Lincoln Project cuckservatives will be humiliated and seen as losers. So will their policies. Similar cuckservatives will be mocked and kept out of cultural and political power as much as possible.

Why didn't that happen after 2016?

There will be 2016-style #Resistance protests, which will likewise be mocked, maybe even harder this time.

We already have riots rivalling the 60s race riots 2016 pales in comparison.

Your statement is literally this meme

No catastrophic far-left policies will be implemented, excepting a situation where the Democrats end up with majorities in the House and Senate.

Trump and the GOP have enabled them already

As you can tell, Trump is the better option and I strongly urge that everyone vote for him.

I'd say Trump is better but by no means good and your predictions have no bearing with what happened in his first term.

[–]Aureus[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

They have no power now I doubt this will change

There won't be any grave crackdowns on conservative organizing, and things like Trump clubs (which allow right-leaning people to come together and freely criticize BLM and illegal immigration) will still exist. If Trump loses, even if Biden does nothing, it's likely that Trump clubs will dissolve, and there will no longer be anything like Trump rallies where right-leaning people can gather in mass numbers.

Why didn't that happen after 2016

It was, but it's currently being spun as a one-off or a mistake. Trump winning again will cement that it wasn't a mistake, and that conservatives genuinely want border enforcement and a stronger stance against far-leftism. Hence "vindication"

I don't think this even depends on what Trump does tbh - but on what he says and what he's perceived as. The image of a pro-border candidate winning is important for culture and morale. It says "advocating for strong borders is what winners do".

We already have riots rivalling the 60s race riots 2016 pales in comparison.

Fair

Trump and the GOP have enabled them already

My prediction is that if Biden wins, we will see policies an order of magnitude worse than we've seen under Trump. hence "catastrophic"

I'd say Trump is better but by no means good

This is basically my position. The real work has to be done by grassroots organizers on the ground, building a new culture. I've never said that Trump will save us, he's just meaningfully better than the alternative

[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There won't be any grave crackdowns on conservative organizing, and things like Trump clubs (which allow right-leaning people to come together and freely criticize BLM and illegal immigration) will still exist.

There has been grave crackdowns already just look at what the kritarchy did to RAM or the Proud Boys.

The real work has to be done by grassroots organizers on the ground, building a new culture.

They'll get sued to oblivion if they're open no matter what.

Divesting from the System is the only path forward, Trump will buy more time to do so.

[–]Salos10000 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I agree but I believe Biden is guaranteed to win, I see no way Trump can win. Our strategy should be planning for the aftermath and recruiting disappointed Trump supporters and Conservatives to our cause.

[–]Aureus[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I hope that Trump wins, and I believe that he can (2016 was a big upset), but I'm 100% with you about organizing.

We desperately need grassroots cultural organizations and institutions. I'm trying to get something like this going at /s/Activism, so feel free to join in.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It's hard for me to predict who wins because with things like coronavirus and the looters I don't know how things will be in november. Elections always depend on the economy and those things effect it big time. I had previously in 2016 thought Hillary would win, like most did, and was way wrong. Looking back I think it was because conservatives win when the economy is good. It's bad now but this situation is fluid, it's only bad for artificial reasons which means it can bounce back if those reasons change. As for what happens if either is president and how they govern you're spot on, little if any real changes will be made and supporters get betrayed as usual.

[–]Aureus[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

As for what happens if either is president and how they govern you're spot on, little if any real changes will be made and supporters get betrayed as usual.

Honestly one of the reasons I support Trump is simply the image of a strong-borders advocate winning the election, despite being hated by the mainstream media, and the effect that image has on the culture. Even if Trump sits in the White House and does nothing for four years, I think that image would be worth it.

There are also organizing opportunities like "Trump clubs" that allow strong-border anti-Marxist conservatives to freely gather and discuss important topics. Trump rallies are very similar. If Trump loses, those go away, and a major organizing opportunity is lost.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

yeah and ironically this coronavirus actually finally has closed the borders

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

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[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Gentlemen tip in Euros

[–]Aureus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You got a prediction there buddy? Or just don't want to be proven wrong in a few months?

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm making fun of you for fellating Trump who has been a Jewish shill for AT LEAST 20 years. Why would anyone care about predictions and 'being proven wrong' are you 13? lmao faggot

My prediction is whoever is president will serve the kikes as usual and homos like you will continue taking it in the ass while claiming it's ironic.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

My immediate election prediction (I'm very uncertain but this is outcome I feel will be most likely)

Biden will win by a slim electoral college margin but quite significantly in terms of popular vote, if Kanye does run he'll be around 1%-6% of the vote but I don't see him damaging Biden's chances really as media will push hard against him. Due to coronavirus, the results will be slightly delayed and some on Trump's side may make some noise but when the results are revealed Trump will fully submit and accept the result. During Trump's "lame duck" period, he'll pass some edicts benefiting Israel in his final act of loyalty. Although the media and Dems will be doing humiliating celebratory gloating, the Biden and Trump transition teams will play nice with each other. However, come inauguration Biden will turn fully hostile against Trump and openly condemn him.

Biden victory scenario predictions

  • Race riots will die down.

  • Boomers attempt a open carry protest like the lockdown protests against Biden on his inauguration but it will be nothing but a laughing stock and will be the symbolic beginning of the end for Trumpism.

  • His cabinet will definitely contain Buttigeg and Klobuchaur. I also believe he'll put Yang in there hoping to gain some popularity from it.

  • Biden and the Congress Dems will seek to prosecute Trump and much of his campaign team and associates. A few big names will be prosecuted, although I expect some to "retire" overseas. Trump may or may not succeed to flee and if not will be prosecuted in a high-profile trial. Trump's family, and Trump if he does succeed, will probably go to Israel or Russia.

  • Cold War 2.0 re-escalates with Russia and there will be at least two major escalations but it will most likely be sabre-rattling, I expect these to be a proxy war and a tense standoff which ends in nothing happening but causing some alarm for a few days (like before Trump's 2018 Syria strikes). Biden will be ambivalent towards China, mostly lifting the trade war and repairing relations but having occasional diplomatic spat as China re-asserts its sovereignty over Hong Kong and flexes its geopolitical muscles.

  • Borders will be relaxed and illegal immigration will increase to even higher levels than under Trump and de-facto amnesty will exist.

  • Either a gun control package will be passed or reparations to blacks will be given, it will be divisive but will pass with no problem.

  • Multiple CAREN Acts and police defunding across American cities.

  • The GOP leadership will do a 180° and blame the defeat on Trump's divisive rhetoric and racist populism, it will de-Trumpify and move towards McCainist "liberal" neoconservatism. All the grifters supporting Trump like Crenshaw or Hawley will do a u-turn as well for their 2024 presidential runs. A pro-Trump faction will remain though and Tucker Carlson will be its de facto spokesperson.

  • Biden will still be a good boy for Israel, no reversals of Golan or Jerusalem decisions and will still publicly suppport Israel against Iran and Hezbollah, although he won't be as much of a philosemite as Trump.

  • Major online censorship to prevent another Trump, anything that isn't McCain-style conservatism will be repressed and I expect 4chan will be blamed for a right-wing/incel shooting and closed down.

Trump victory scenario predictions

  • Race riots will continue and re-escalate, combining with anti-Trump protests, and will sporadically continue until soon after his inauguration.
  • Censorship will happen but not at Biden-level. Because there is no censorship, there will be "far-right" growth among white people in reaction to the George Floyd riots but won't be overall political significant at mainstream level.
  • More of same internal policy-wise, privatizations and he'll talk about the COVID recovery LGBT unemployment rates.
  • Will not be actively hostile to Russia, except tensions over Venezuela, but this will alienate Europe and there will be a three-way split in a NATO between America (and a now subservient UK), continental EU and Turkey. The continental EU will still be on-paper allied with America and moderately work with it but will mostly try build itself as a separate power.
  • Trump and China will escalate in their rhetorical war and Cold War 2.0 will be set as a dying USA vs China. There will be no major escalations however, and China will assert its sovereignty over Hong Kong and spread its influence.
  • Trump will launch a military action against Iran or Venezuela, it may not be major such as regime-change but it will be newsworthy.
  • Same old thing for Israel, billions of dollars and praise.
  • Immigration will continue at current pace, border wall will never be built as intended (just the "fence").
  • The Dems will believe that old white men don't get them elected and will move further left and embrace more and more identity politics.
  • By end of Trump's term, stage will be set for 2024 campaign and a large amount of GOP figures will run including Crenshaw, Pence, etc.

2024 prediction (regardless of who wins)

  • Assuming the most likely situation where America still exists and no global war happens, a Democrat will win the 2024 presidential election quite comfortably and that will fully establish Electoral Winter (I think this election is still competitive enough to not be called electoral winter even if Dems win). After this point, until the political dynamics of America change, the Democrats will dominate US federal politics and GOP will never win another presidential election.

[–]Aureus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oof. Very depressing, but I agree with the broad strokes.

[–]Riva 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There are no real Biden supporters.

[–]frodo-baggins 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

What if Kanye wins?

[–]Aureus[S] 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Utopia

[–]Questionablethe Dumpster Arsonist · 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

" Every prediction is compared with reality. The winners get bragging rights, and the losers have to admit they were wrong. Sound fun?"

No. Sounds like an exhausting waste of mental energies with worse outcomes than fantasy football.