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[–]clownworlddropout 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (102 children)

It seems like the goal here is to conflate being "anti-trans" with conspiracy theories. This shit is like product-placement at this point.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 4 fun1 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 4 fun -  (101 children)

Climate change exists. Trans people exist. The denial of either is a conspiracy theory.

[–]clownworlddropout 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (95 children)

"Trans people" don't exist any more than "tattooed people" exist.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

They do though? At least if we define trans as someone who now presents and lives (in society) like the opposite sex.

But I guess that's no longer the definition. Gender identity isn't a thing, it's just personality mixed with mental illness (about being in the "wrong" body).

Every other idiot who feels even slightly different is trans now.

[–]clownworlddropout 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

They don't exist in an objective sense. "Trans" isn't a type of human, it's only something imposed on the human condition. Like tattoos it's a body modification, and also like tattoos it's become a fad in the younger generations.

[–]hfxB0oyA 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yep, they're using it in substitution for the personalities they didn't develop.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Eh, no. What's imposed is the surgery, but that is the result of their internal conflict.... I'd say the internal conflict AND the surgery together makes trans real in an objective sense.

The problem nowadays is that anyone can claim they're trans if they feel even slightly 'off', or like they don't fit in, or they're sexual predators (and the list goes on and on), and on top of everything, they don't even have to get any medical procedures done. It's gross but doesn't invalidate 'real' trans people.

[–]clownworlddropout 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

"Real" trans people are just gay. Full stop.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Not mutually exclusive.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Every other idiot who feels even slightly different is trans now.

Really?

Do you have some examples?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You're not asking in good faith.

That being the case, if you want an example, look in the mirror. I can do bad faith too =).

Aaaaaaand, blocked.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You're not asking in good faith

Because I'm interested in what you mean?

Or because you're not sure what your mean?

That being the case, if you want an example, look in the mirror.

No, I'm not trans.

I can do bad faith too =).

Congratulations. Although i would say that when you say "too", you're implying that someone else can do bad faith.

Aaaaaaand, blocked.

I hope you mean that you won't be wasting my bandwidth in the future. But otherwise, try eating prunes.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

At least if we define trans as someone who now presents and lives (in society) like the opposite sex.

I wouldn't even go that far. Because it's kind of sexist, and it's important to note that there are people who are probably a little messed up in the head from some kind of intersex malfunction, which is what makes them need to change their bodies (as much as possible). This happens to a tiny minority and isn't something you should wish on anyone. It pretty much destroys any chance of a happy life. And if you give a normal person treatments meant for that condition, guess what condition that person acquires?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I don't think that's fair to intersex people, they always get brought up in the conversations but they've always existed and never had a 'movement' because they don't need one and aren't a part of LGBTQ as a cultural phenomenon.

Also, I'm not wishing gender dysphoria on anyone (this is different from intersex), just that it exists, and sometimes severely so to the point some people have surgery and present as the opposite sex. That's trans to me. Still stems from mental illness, but trans nonetheless.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You're not listening. You're still responding to the primary trans narrative, and you refuse to allow me to distinguish it. And that's exactly what the trans agenda wants.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You can distinguish all you want, doesn't mean I have to agree with you lol.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (81 children)

True. In the sense that there's evidence for both of them.

But if you're arguing that it's due to a conscious choice of the person, that's not how trans people work.

[–]clownworlddropout 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (80 children)

Trans is a choice, yes. A fashion choice, and a terrible one.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (79 children)

Trans is a choice, yes

Is it that you know how wrong that is, and you're trolling for a reaction because you're lonely?

Or is there some source that said that to you, and you believed in the ignorance of the reality?

[–]clownworlddropout 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (78 children)

Oh, you think there's a "trans brain" do you? I wonder what other popular pseudoscientific myths you believe in... perhaps we only use 10% of our brain? Does the human soul weigh precisely 21 grams, maybe?

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (77 children)

I'm more curious about why you're commenting wrong things than the wrong things that you're commenting.

Is there some source that said that to you, and you believed in the ignorance of the reality?

Can you link to it?

Or do you know that you're wrong and are just trolling for a reaction?

[–]clownworlddropout 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (76 children)

I'm not wrong, there's no such thing as a person born "in the wrong body." They're gay, confused gender-nonconforming people, or fetishists. Why do you believe a person can be born with the wrong socially constructed role? Maybe a mix up of the long-hair and lipstick gene? Think ffs.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (75 children)

I'm not wrong,

Put that aside for a moment. I'm not going to try to educate you for free over saidit comments.

there's no such thing as a person born "in the wrong body."

Where did you get this "not wrong" statement from? Did you make it up yourself?

Did a politician tell you?

[–]jet199Instigatrix 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Who is saying trans people don't exist?

LOL

Maybe actually think about the dumb words you are repeating before typing them.

[–]xoenix[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Nobody denies climate change "exists". Offshoring everything to China and buying their dirty windmills and solar that only increase coal, oil, diesel & gas usage is a fucking stupid grift.

You don't have to be a genius to realize men can't magically turn into women. "Transgenderism" is a fairy tale concept invented by autogynephiles to legitmize their fetish in public and invade women's spaces.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Nobody denies climate change "exists".

Yeah they do. There's claims that it is a hoax. 10 reasons to prove that climate change is a hoax.

If you're saying that people who claim that are as cracked as flat earthers and germ theory deniers, you're right about that.

But the limits to the stupidity of climate change denial are way beyond what you might hope or naively believe.

Offshoring everything to China

China does a lot of manufacturing. Once you have emission controls that affect onshore processes, you will need to apply a tariff so that countries without those controls don't compete unfairly.

their dirty windmills and solar that only increase coal, oil, diesel & gas usage

Windmills and solar don't increase coal, oil, diesel & gas usage. That's fucking obvious.

Yes. you have to mine copper. You have to do that anyway. That's how you move electricity around, no matter how you generate it.

You don't have to be a genius to realize men can't magically turn into women.

Nobody claims that men change magically into women.

"Transgenderism" is a fairy tale concept invented by autogynephiles to legitmize their fetish in public and invade women's spaces.

Nope. But to understand transgenderism you'd have to read up on it a bit.

But you shouldn't just make stuff up like that about things you don't know anything about. People will realise you're a fucking idiot, and then when you have real information to share, you have to get over the hurdle that you say ignorant things that are the opinion du jour of the neo-cons in their endeavours to appeal to the under-educated lower classes in an effort to get them to vote against their own economic best interests.

[–]xoenix[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Windmills and solar don't increase coal, oil, diesel & gas usage. That's fucking obvious.

They're unreliable and need fossil fuel backups. They don't recoup their initial carbon inputs, never last as long as they're supposed to. They're not recyclable. Germany's in the process of knocking down windmills to replace them with coal plants otherwise they'll freeze this winter. The cost to produce windmills & solar have made them unaffordable.

"Climate change" is a scam in the sense that we could have started building nuclear 35 years ago and solved the problem. For 35 years they've told us we only have 5-10 years to act!! Which was obviously false. But China and all the middlemen grifters wouldn't have made all that money by having energy-rich western nations commit economic suicide.

And, LMAO, let me know when you find proof of gender spirits.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They're unreliable and need fossil fuel backups.

Or storage.

But the point stands. They don't increase coal, oil, diesel & gas usage. It's fucking obvious that backup gas is less gas than gas all the time.

They don't recoup their initial carbon inputs

Hmm. That sounds a lot like utter rubbish.

This paper calculates less than one year for carbon payback. Are you claiming that a wind turbine won't last 9 months?

There's a few around there that are in their third decade of production, and many that are in their second.

They're not recyclable.

The metals? Of course they are.

Or the fibreglass? They are increasingly too

The cost to produce windmills & solar have made them unaffordable.

Both cheaper than coal atm

"Climate change" is a scam in the sense that we could have started building nuclear 35 years ago and solved the problem.

And other zero-emissions generation. Solar. Wind. Hydro where available. Geothermal where practical.

For 35 years they've told us we only have 5-10 years to act!!

TBF we are pretty fucked. The heatwaves have been high casualty, and the warming will continue on feedbacks for a couple of decades after the CO2 emissions stop completely.

Which was obviously false.

Funny. I was thinking it was obviously true. Have you not been reading the news for the past year?

And, LMAO, let me know when you find proof of gender spirits.

Hahahahahaha!

You think that medical science believes in gender spirits?

What do you even claim those are?

OMG, that's the funniest thing I've heard today.