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[–]makesyoudownvote 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Not to be that guy, but the data very clearly indicates that it was NOT invented in 2019, but in use as far back as at least 2012.

However it shows a sudden and dramatic increase in usage around 2019.

Edit: Also if your look the term "antivaxxer" actually had a peak in 2004 too which if memory serves is right around the time of SARS. There also was this brilliant episode of Penn and Teller Bullshit about it. Here is a short clip from it.

[–]weavilsatemyface 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

the word 'antivax' was invented and popularized in 2019.

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Did you look at your own graph? The word "antivax" was already in use in 2004.

You are right about there being a sudden increase in searches for the words antivax etc in 2019, and that Big Pharma is the biggest advertiser in US media, and the huge campaign to shame "antivaxers" in 2021 onwards, but you are misunderstanding the Google Trends. It shows the rate of searches for the word, not how often it is used in the media. So the big uptick in 2019 could easily be because more people were interested in what the antivaxers had to say.

Another good source is Google N-Grams. But again, we don't know if the references to antivax are in favour or against them.

[–]Dragonerne 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Not even a good rebuttal, try harder

[–]newguy[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Do you know what the word 'popularized' means?

It clearly came in to widespread use in 2019. Searches reflect usage.

You are acting like I'm confused about this, but I understand it all very clearly.

[–]iamonlyoneman 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

you seem to be a dummy. read your post title out loud.

[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Do you know what the word 'popularized' means?

Yes I do. Do you know what the word "invented" means?

You are acting like I'm confused about this, but I understand it all very clearly.

Right. You think that a word that was already used in the early 2000s was invented in 2019. Maybe they had a time machine?

Of course there was a huge spike in interest in the word "anti-vaxxer" (and related terms) from 2019. You know what happened in 2019? There was a huge uptick in measles cases world wide, by over 182%. That alone would explain an increase in google searches.

But do you know what else happened in 2019?

That is evidence of some shady shit going on. People googling for the word antivax is not.

[–]newguy[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

And who is the largest advertiser on most US mainstream media? Pharma.

Think about that. Pharma owns the media, the word antivax was promoted in the media in 2019 to shame people in to vaccine compliance, and then in 2020 this experimental mRNA shot was unleashed on the world and pushed heavily. Then the pharma companies made $10 billion.

All total coincidences, I'm sure.

[–]DirewolfGhost 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

We say cohencidence here.

[–]Dragonerne 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Thanks for the graph!

On reddit, r/all used to be a propaganda page. They'd mock all kinds of REAL "conspiracies" or trendy political topics on the alt right, daily. But one thing always stood out to be because NO ONE talked about it.

It was anti vax propaganda. It made NO sense to me. I saw it nowhere in dissident spheres. Yet they kept talking about anti vaccine & autism and how stupid antivaxers are. It made zero sense to me.

But then it made sense once the pandemic hit. Your graph shows exactly what I experienced. Thanks

[–]newguy[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yup, /all is literally a propaganda machine. Sad departure from what it was 15 years ago

[–]jjj49er🧠 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I remember seeing a lot of posts in 2019 on Reddit about antivaxers. They were all stories from 15 to 20+ years ago. I wondered why, all of a sudden, there was an uptick in antivax mocking, but nothing was currently happening (that I knew off then) to instigate it. It all started making sense about a year later.

[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

wondered why, all of a sudden, there was an uptick in antivax mocking, but nothing was currently happening (that I knew off then) to instigate it.

Samoa says hello.

More here:

[–]Dragonerne 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I just made a comment about the exact same experience I had. I think we can use this to predict the future.

The problem is that I am not in normie spaces

[–]newguy[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Pharma predictive programming, and people actually bought in to it

[–]Irumiblue4 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Nice find. There was probably a psyop effort but the word itself or similar terms were probably already a thing.

[–]binaryblob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

This is only true if you know how Google Trends works internally, which you don't.

[–]newguy[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

What a meaningless and untrue statement

[–]binaryblob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Google Trends is proprietary software; so, you don't have the faintest idea as to what it does. Do you have a contract from Google saying that if they lie about it, they get to pay you a trillion dollars? No? Then why act as if you do?

[–]newguy[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You're proprietary software, so I'm going to ignore everything you just said.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Dictionary says the word antivax first turned up in 1898 and antivaxxer first appeared in 2001. Before the simpler term antivax became seemingly more popular again in more recent times, the word antivaccination appeared more commonly used. The title is misleading, the word antivax was not invented in 2019, but it did experience an increase in search activity, but that's all the graph shows, prevalence in usage in search.