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[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

Not that I'm aware of, unless the couple wants children.

Okay, good. You're a new testament kind of guy.

It says he can't divorce her.

It doesn't say she has to consent. But that's all old testament. It also says gays should be put to death. And people who disobey their parents.

Here's a list of some of the more major human evolution fossils from Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_human_evolution_fossils A lot of people would conclude that most of them exist.

The bible says that the Jews escaped from slavery in Egypt. Archaeology finds early Jewish settlements indistinguishable from Canaanite settlements, except for the lack of pig bones in the rubbish pits. Meaning the construction methods were closely related to Canaanite, the pottery was in the Canaanite tradition, the alphabet was an early form of Canaanite, and their cult objects were similar to those for the Canaanite supreme god, El.

Do you think that the Jews were from Egyptian origin?

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

It doesn't say she has to consent.

The emphasis is on the rapist not being allowed to divorce his victim, and thus he is obligated to support her (because that's how it worked in those days). It shouldn't need to specify that she has to consent, it's just common sense. These are not modern legal codes with all their technicalities.

It also says gays should be put to death.

It says gays who do anal sex are to be put to death, not all gays. Ejaculating in the anus is a grossly unsanitary act that causes STDs, and many avoid it for this reason. Also the death penalty chapter 20 is clearly a forgery plagiarizing chapter 18, which simply prohibits those actions and says nothing about punishment.

Here's a list of some of the more major human evolution fossils

I have seen some of the claimed evolution fossils. But they all look to me like merely earlier versions of the same species, not in-betweens of different ones. Also, they are so scare that it's possible they are from deformed specimens. I don't deny microevolution, but going from bacteria to humans is such a stretch. And even then, the question of existence is still unanswered. Where did those first bacteria come from?

The bible says that the Jews escaped from slavery in Egypt. Archaeology finds early Jewish settlements indistinguishable from Canaanite settlements, except for the lack of pig bones in the rubbish pits. Meaning the construction methods were closely related to Canaanite, the pottery was in the Canaanite tradition, the alphabet was an early form of Canaanite, and their cult objects were similar to those for the Canaanite supreme god, El.

Do you think that the Jews were from Egyptian origin?

I think they are Canaanites. Exodus is cryptic scripture about the matrix, it's full of gnostic themes. Prophets and spirituals created an epic in attempt to communicate truths that can't be expressed in human terms or were not understood in their time. This was a common technique in ancient literature.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

It shouldn't need to specify that she has to consent, it's just common sense.

In what possible world would someone consent to marrying their rapist? The whole thing is horrific.

It says gays who do anal sex are to be put to death, not all gays.

"‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads."

You've got to read between the lines a bit to get to anal.

Also the death penalty chapter 20 is clearly a forgery plagiarizing chapter 18, which simply prohibits those actions and says nothing about punishment.

Okay. So the bible as written has falsehoods.

I have seen some of the claimed evolution fossils.

Surely all fossils are evolution fossils?

But they all look to me like merely earlier versions of the same species, not in-betweens of different ones.

You claim that homo erectus is a modern human?

They're not that similar.

https://edenias.com/major-skeletal-similarities-differences-between-home-erectus-homo-sapiens/

Also, they are so scare that it's possible they are from deformed specimens.

Oh, come on. For species with a large population and range there are plenty of finds. There are parts of over 80 individuals of Homo Erectus, from over 40 sites. None were contemporary with modern humans at that site. For the recent species, Neanderthal and Denisovan, we have DNA. We can see that except for people in the south and west of Africa, we carry Neanderthal genes still, commonly conserved are thier genes associated with skin and hair. Melanesian have Denisovan genes.

I don't deny microevolution, but going from bacteria to humans is such a stretch.

If you separate two populations and then you do microevolution separately for a few hundred generations, you get speciation: especially if the environments are different so that there are slightly different selection pressures. (See Darwin's finches.)

Bacteria to multi-celled was a long haul. That took much longer than lobe-finned fish to giraffe, and it's difficult to study because bacteria don't fossilise well, and there are billions of years since it was happening.

Prophets and spirituals created an epic in attempt to communicate truths that can't be expressed in human terms or were not understood in their time. This was a common technique in ancient literature.

Good.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

In what possible world would someone consent to marrying their rapist? The whole thing is horrific.

It was a different world. Women didn't have enough rights to support themselves, and men refused to marry non-virgins.

"‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads."

You've got to read between the lines a bit to get to anal.

My translation says, "If a man lies a woman's lyings with a male..." Guess what the original Hebrew says.

Okay. So the bible as written has falsehoods.

Absolutely. Read (an accurate and more literal translation of) Jeremiah 7-8. "Look, truly the lying pen of scribes made [the Torah] into a lie!". And in Ezekiel, "I gave them statues which aren't good and judgements they cannot live in".

The only early human fossils I know of are incomplete and require much speculation. Other species are missing hybrids as well. If evolution were real, why did the source and target species survive in pure form, but not a single one of the hybrids? Why are there such well-defined lines between (most) species? And still: where did the first bacteria come from?

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

It was a different world. Women didn't have enough rights to support themselves, and men refused to marry non-virgins.

Yeah, still horrific to marry your rapist.

Do you really claim that all those homo ertectus were actually modern humans? ... or chimps with really long legs, and the thumb on the foot in a funny place?

And similarly with the fossils showing the changes leading to every current species? Ambulocetus was a modern whale, but with surprising long legs?

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

I just feel like it's really odd that all the in-between species would perish without a trace. It's not something I consider to be incredibly important anymore, just a personal opinion.

Yeah, still horrific to marry your rapist.

It's not ideal, but not their fault that those were the conditions they had to deal with.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

I just feel like it's really odd that all the in-between species would perish without a trace.

Most species are extinct. I can see how that might worry someone who thinks that each was created.

But there are plenty of traces. We know the predominant species and climate and continental arrangements of the earth, admittedly to less detail as you go back, for half a billion years. With some tantalising clues going back nearly as old as the earth, 4 billion years.

Initially only in the oceans. But the land was invaded by algae then mosses. And invertebrates. Eventually by lobe-finned fish, who are all the large land animals to this day. But vastly many existed in the past, and nearly all of the area gone.

It's not ideal, but not their fault that those were the conditions they had to deal with.

It's a sentence to a life of misery and torture.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

But why did such distinct lines form between species? Even across continents? You'd think there would be at least some hybrids left, or that there would at least be a lot more variation. But no, very specific species remain.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

But why did such distinct lines form between species?

There's no distinct line between species. The original line was "can breed with and produce fertile offspring". But that line is very blurred.

There's heaps of example of species that inhabit a line, such as a coast or mountain range that are one species all along the length by that definition, but if you take individuals from the ends, they're different species.

And there's even "ring species" around the coasts of islands, which are one species all around the perimeter, but if you take individuals from opposite sides, they can't breed.

And there's different kinds of "can breed with fertile offspring", because fertility isn't a step function. There's the offspring is usually fertile, to most of the offspring don't make it, but some are fertile. And everything in between.

You'd think there would be at least some hybrids left

Sure. Excepting Natives of the South and West of Africa, humans are hybrids between Neanderthals and Modern Humans. Just much more Sapiens than neanderthalensis. Preserved are genes relating to hair and skin. Probably the long straight hair that you get outside Africa is neaderthal. And something about skin ... not impossibly whiteness, as the Neanderthals of northern Europe were certainly white. On the other hand skin colour changes pretty quickly if you spend some time near or away from the tropics.

I think some of those central Africans are less hunched and hairy as us neaderthal hybrids. But there's a lot of genetic variation in Africa. Only a small group of us left the continent.

But no, very specific species remain.

Not true. Or even close to true.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

They're still not half one half another. They're basically the same despite not being able to breed.

It's nothing I put too much thought into, I just have trouble believing it with the way things ended up.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

It's a sentence to a life of misery and torture.

As is life itself. It could be even worse if she ended up with no husband, which was basically a death sentence back then.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It could be even worse if she ended up with no husband, which was basically a death sentence back then.

Not seeing that.

which was basically a death sentence back then.

Once her father died, perhaps.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Exactly.