If God wanted to zap away the people causing our collapse into utopia, he could

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[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Most people assume our life in this world is the real life. It’s a place of purgation. Anyone who goes evil here will shamefully admit he deserves hell at judgement. Then God will make the real world. The devil deceived most people to forget the real plot. They really look forward to making this purgatory their home. The return of Christ will surprise them.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Anyone who goes evil here will shamefully admit he deserves hell at judgement.

Right, but the only ones who will put them there are archons who don't want them to know about Christ's ransom for us, because they are sadists and eager to torture us in any way they can. They even do it now, and use these kinds of tactics to trick us into agreeing to it.

You are correct that this is not the real world. It's honestly laughable sometimes how many holes there are in it, and yet hardly anyone ever questions it. This is a matrix run by those demons I mentioned in the previous paragraph. And who knows how long we've been here, since they suppress our minds. But this cannot go on forever.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

God is unjust. He created everything. And he wants to watch it play out.

Imagine your most favorite tv show. And then imagine walking in and fixing everything half way through.

I love horror movies. And I would love to have a front seat to see why humans do to other humans.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

TV shows are actors and animations, not conscious beings.

The sad truth is that our world is run by sadistic archons. Sone try to rationalize it by speculating that our suffering produces energy for them, but that makes absolutely zero sense. They are just that vile and love tormenting others. The only reason a few are allowed to have happy lives is to make it even worse for everyone else.

[–]iDontShift 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

God is perfection , that which is

we are living within a dream of that, and what is here is a delusion made by the deluded

waking up to this reality can allow you to become wise and align with God and find the path/life

can be simple and true

align with God

with God, one is a majority

if God fixed the world, caused all to be awakened, what would we have learned?

it is only in doing it yourself ..

become independently dependent upon God alone

there is the only place PEACE AND STRENGTH AND POWER reside

further discussion about why God does not interfere.. consider free will

the devil literally could not exist (the darkness, the stupid) if God where to be present in an incontrovertible (undeniable) form

duality will always appear to be for life to be, without it there is no experience

that is my understand. read something like 'Bhagavat Gita' from ancient folks that truly touch upon God

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

That "earth is a school" crap is a lie made up by the archons to keep you here and supporting their sadism matrix. Unfortunately evil and bad are real and not just negative perceptions of a grand plan coming together for good. Toxic positivity is comforting to those fortunate enough to accept it, but it is being in denial about the disgusting truth of this existence. There' s a reason depressed people are scientifically proven to be far more realistic than others. Because this world is a depressing place.

[–]iDontShift 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

says the person that believes in materiality

obviously that is what you think

you couldn't think anything else, until you change your mind

and that, you are afraid will make you weak, you are afraid

fear is the devil's "breathe" or spirit

as love, peace, calm are God's breathe.. or holy spirit

you cannot enjoy one while indulging in another

what you don't know is that YOU ENJOY THE DARKNESS .. are in love with it

because I know there is more, whatever you say is just the voice of darkness, in darkness, that says 'life is pain'

whatever, namaste, love be

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I didn't say there's not more, in fact that's what they want you to think. North Koreans think North Korea is paradise because their world ends at the North Korean border. Likewise the narrative about life and this world is that it is the best thing ever and everyone and everything here is inherently good. And that this is all that exists or needs to exist, since it's apparently so marvelous.

If you charge God with wrongdoing, then somehow "I AM" must be an inferior deity. Because there's no way you can seriously think that one has done anything wrong after all the pains he goes through to save us, despite what scribes wrote about him.

[–]iDontShift 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

i charge God with Perfection, omniscience, all-powerful, no-end, no-beginning

we are some dream manifestation, called maya by some.

we can awaken to reality as the One, and be with All the Ones

that is the only way forward, the other is suicide

which path we appear now on, as the darkness hopes to complete its task, but all that will happen is God snaps out of his/her/its dream

that is how i see it

our part is align with God

in doing so all Jesus did, you can do

that is the real truth, hidden, but not

christ, jesus literally says it

nobody listens

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's called the matrix, and it's run by demons. That's why it's such a nightmare.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think you give too much credit to our god.

[–]Views 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Good loses all meaning if its opposite - Evil - does not exist.

GOD is the sum of all this. For God to choose "good" over "evil" would be for God to negate that God is All - a definitional contradiction.

Acknowledge that all the states of existence - what we consider "good" "evil" and "neutral" and all the shades therein - have their proper place within this creation and that if any of them is removed this creation as we know it ceases to exist...

Do this and you begin to witness God.

To understand (comprehend) God and God's will? We do not have that capacity. This is by design.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Lies lies and more lies from demons. The only reason this partially true is because they suppress our minds to make it so. However, even here it is not really the case. Bad certainly makes us appreciate good more, but its abscence doesn't nullify it. And even if it were necessary, I think there's more to the story when 99.9% of things in this world are bad. Many people live their whole lives from birth to death in absolute misery, never experiencing a drop of joy. And even the luckiest people like us, save for an elite hand-picked few, still live something like 30% good and 70% bad. If bad were only here so good exists, I'd think it would be the other way around.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The church is a Satanic front and lies. They invent ideas like hell to scare people into submission, and spend all their time covering up the truth and the fact that their evil doctrines are either completely made up or injected by Satanic scribes over the centuries, which you are not allowed to question the legitimacy of.

If you take a closer look you'll actually find that they don't like their supposed lord very much at all. They rarely reference Jesus, and when they do they are subtly denouncing him as "too weak" or "tolerant of sin" or whatever else and saying "we're not saying don't listen to Jesus, but don't listen to Jesus. Instead take a look at this totally legit story where God genocides entire countries for the pettiest of reasons! Truly the strong leader we need to crush our opponents and torture them mercilessly forever!" They are the ones who say "Lord, Lord" but are full of hatred and pride and act evil. Ironic, considering how often they cite that passage and several others to threaten their opponents when it's really talking about them. They are actual modern-day Pharisees. And likewise their whole church system revolves around control, power, money, and politics. The original Christians didn't invent church, they avoided the synagogues which were their equivalent of a church, as well as the temple. And no, animal sacrifices and the temple system didn't end because "Christ was the final sacrifice," it was never supposed to be a thing (Jeremiah 7), but scribes put it there (Jeremiah 8). Actually the books of Moses appear to be a scam invented by Judahite elites who conveniently "rediscovered" them just in time to justify their desired reforms. And it's very clear that they derive from pagan, polytheistic sources, and that there came to be two versions which were later combined (which is why it oddly repeats everything) and the later version has the references to "Elohim" (gods) changed to God's name, ascribing to him all their horrible deeds. And then supplementing even more vile stories themselves. Then Ezra decided gentiles aren't worthy of life so he put all that crap in there too, and the Pharisees and Sadduccees continued to revise it throughout the first few centuries AD. This means it was still being worked on during the times of the New Testament writers, who have a lot to say about "scribes and Pharisees".

The church also tells you to go into the light trap when you die, lying that it leads to "heaven" when to Jesus it is a concept (it's "within you") and not a place. They also work hard to remove knowledge of atonement or ransom, so that they can control people through guilt and punishment, and so the demons masquerading as deities can convince you that you owe them impossible amounts of "life debt" or "bad karma" for your mistakes, and you have keep being their slave and coming back to hell to pay it off. For the new agers and cult of toxic positivity they sometimes make up different excuses, making them think life is beautiful and good and ridiculous ideas such as "earth is a school" and that there is nothing better. Just like North Korea is heaven on earth, because for North Koreans the world ends at the North Korean border, so they never learn the truth about what a truly awful place they live in.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Most Christians have the belief that the things associated with the material side of our world are inherently corrupt or lower and that the spirit is inherently good. Not all Christians, but the majority of them.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That was an older timeline apparently. It's now been one of the ultimate heresies for 2000 years and known as "gnosticism". This time Christianity is obsessed with the material to the point of prohibiting anything spiritual. And questioning these matters is strictly forbidden.

This is no joke. Look it up, them teaching all those things apparently never happened, even though so many of us used to hear them every Sunday. Your mind will be blown. The early church scandals indicate that the version everyone remembers is still the authentic one.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Another crazy one: they no longer believe in salvation by faith alone. You won't believe me but it's true. They now teach works salvation, almost all of them, as if they have always done so. They now say you have to earn salvation by obeying them well enough. Of course it's possible they quietly changed their minds on this so they don't have to say certain political enemies of theirs aren't all going to hell, but a lot of the older material on it has disappeard too.

Interestingly there are also now a lot more additions to the Bible which seem to confirm their new teaching, and only the 2nd-century heretic Marcion posessed older versions of some books, which are much more similar to what we all remember.

I am one of them but I feel like they all left me. I don't even recognize them anymore.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Don't forget that if you ever express any frustration or questioning of his actions, he will just judge you to condemnation in Hell for eternity.

I think you mean the church. Hell was inserted by translators, it does not actually exist in any of the "canonical" books. The concept postdates even purgatory. It was made up so the church could control the masses.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

What do you think of the verses when Jesus is referring to people going into the "lake of fire"?

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The only time this is ever mentioned is in Revelation. Only the beast, false prophet, and accuser are said to be "tormented day and night forever and ever". Everyone else receives the "second death". Furthermore, the translators conveniently omit the fact that the word used for "torment" is in the sense of interrogation. Not only that, but the lake of fire doesn't even exist; unless you also believe that all the other places and creatures seen in that vision are real, which is not how visions usually work, and this is obviously one of them.

There's one more fact about Revelation I'd like to share with you. It was not widely accepted until centuries later. Even Martin Luther thought it was fraudulent.

The only few remaining references to anything like a "lake of fire" is a few mentions of "fire that doesn't go out" (meaning complete destruction), Gehenna (a valley where Jews burned those they deemed sinners, which is condemned in Jeremiah), "the outer darkness" found only in Matthew (with no mention of fire or torture, except in the debt parable), and one mention of being "tormented in flame", only in Luke, in a parable.

The concept of Hell comes from some old Egyptian religion. I would think that if the viciously brutal writers of much of the Old Testament knew of such a place, they wouldn't be able to go 2 seconds without employing it. Yet there is not even a single mention of it. The reason the hell doctrine dominated is because Rome, the one church that taught this, ultimately won out because of Constantine. Before that others thought the lost simply died, were reincarnated (I'm suspecting this), or ended up being rescued anyway. Some of the latter group believed in a temporary purgatory (yes, Purgatory is older than Hell). I think the world we live in can be considered a purgatory. And aside from not being on fire it has many parallels with pop culture depictions of Hell, with the devil and demons ruling over it and sadistictly torturing everyone in it. If that's the place you were looking for you have already found it.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Also our bodies are part of the matrix system, we're just so used to them and have been in them for as long as we can remember. This whole world is evil, even the things that disguise themselves as beautiful.