What's the point of living if you have no chance of a happy life? by Vulptex in whatever

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What's the point of living if you have no chance of a happy life? by Vulptex in whatever

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Very few people engage in a genuine meditation practice because done right, meditation leads directly into the pain that we all naturally try to avoid. Being open to absolutely whatever presents itself to our mind through whatever pathway (physical senses or generated by the mind itself) is a lifetime practice and is never easy. "Most people" who begin to sense the pain that must be moved through at that point drop their practice. "This isn't helping! It's making things worse!" is the common reaction. For those lucky few who persevere, however, the realization awaits that "worse" and "better" don't in reality exist and never did.

Re: ecstasy. Ecstasy is a temporary phenomenon like all are in the universe. It's wonderful when present and there's no reason to avoid it, but that said, be careful not to be surprised by the comedown from that state. While the more famous line of thought from Siddhartha, as said here, is "Suffering is universal", I find more power in another of his ideas: All is impermanent. Absolutely everything.

What's the point of living if you have no chance of a happy life? by Vulptex in whatever

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This was posted on saidit a while back. It seems appropriate to your suffering.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBBhxrJYsU4

I know can never ever heal...

From personal experience, I promise you that you don't actually know that. The reason I say that is because in my past the same thought was firmly implanted in my ideography for years. I also was borderline suicidal for a very long time. Having passed through it to the point where I am now, I can tell you that I have no idea how it happened, but that to a large extent it's out of our control. I came to a relatively happier place - though I'm still somewhat of an "internal Eeyore" - with a combination of two inputs: first, I recognized that there is nothing inherently wrong with being at the bottom of the "happiness pyramid". In other words, from a universal perspective, those suffering the most are absolutely equally necessary to the equation of life as are those who are the happiest. Without the sufferers like you, there is no balance. You are equally important to the universe no matter where on the scale you lie simply because you exist, just as everyone and everything else on the scale exists. That is in truth all that matters. Second, interactions in my social life started happening that I still don't understand. I would find myself doing things that weren't "me". I don't know why I did them, and I haven't done them since. But for reasons that are mysterious to me to this day, I found interactions that began to "move me up the ladder". I didn't consciously "choose" to behave differently; it's almost as though it happened to me. For these experiences among others, I am open at a profound level - though I won't say I know it to be true - but I am open to the idea of predestination. Sometimes mysterious patterns emerge inexplicable even to the author of those patterns.

I wish you the best. It's a rough road, but if you are lucky enough to find your way to a more open perspective, you'll find a beauty that I believe to be unavailable to those who have never suffered as you have. The suffering makes the beauty found through it significantly more powerful and meaningful.

I bow to you.

"Saint Basil explains that anyone who says he knows God is perverted. Not merely wrongheaded, perverted. Dangerous. A danger to himself and to those he teaches." So remember that. by Views in whatever

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Thanks to those who responded to this post. We can learn so much from seeing how each of us reacts differently to the same message. All of our responses come together in this amazing maelstrom we all share. Be good to one another. Be good with one another.

"Saint Basil explains that anyone who says he knows God is perverted. Not merely wrongheaded, perverted. Dangerous. A danger to himself and to those he teaches." So remember that. by Views in whatever

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From a talk by Michael Holleran:

https://home.theopenvista.net/perspectives/Holleran.html

The quotes are from Robert Kennedy (not the politician, a priest in New Jersey).

How the fuck do i stop being like this? These past few days i've done nothing but scroll and watch youtube videos. I cant be alone with my thoughts anymore. by johnnybravo in AskSaidIt

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This is what meditation is.

Meditation is not about some religious experience. At its heart, effective meditation is simply a technique. It is training. Meditation is the practice of doing precisely what you are hoping to learn to do.

You know that what you are currently doing hurts. You don't want to be like this anymore, which means you don't want to do this anymore. The only way to learn to do differently is to start new actions, to take the time to learn new skills. It requires effort; it requires time; there is no shortcut.

Meditation is the art of sitting still and quiet, and witnessing the chaos that is always present in our mind, without rejecting it or obsessing over it, but also without following it as our guide. This is very difficult to do, because our mind doesn't want to be told that it's not in control. When a thought occurs in our mind, the mind immediately wants to do that thing. Teaching your mind that it can no longer get away with this creates intense frustration initially. It does get better and easier after a time (months, years - not days, weeks).

Don't expect this to be easy. Sticking with a meditation regime for more than a few weeks requires extraordinary discipline, as it goes against so many of our natural instincts.

Good luck. We all need it.

https://home.theopenvista.net/perspectives/Anshin2.html