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[–]NodeThis is my flair. There are many like it, but this one is mine. 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (29 children)

It's at least partly because M7 has a love/hate relationship with the kind of people who would want to use a site like this. Unfair bannings cause other users to leave out of sympathy for the victims. The site has gone offline for multiple days at a time twice in the past couple months. M7 thought it would be a good idea to make a teenage boy pretending to be a girl one of the admins, and their erratic behaviors drive users away. Spam on the front page is out of control, and is probably the bulk of site traffic starting on March 21st.

https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/saidit.net

🇮🇳 India 48.1%

Scroll down to the usage graph, and while you can't see it anymore, that massive jump on 3/21 was preceded by many months of a steady decline. You can't trust Alexa to be totally accurate, but that is a weird and dramatic surge in site traffic that doesn't appear authentic.

a free speech platform.

It's definitely not. But what's really unfortunate is that saidit is still one of the best commenting/link-aggregator sites around, despite all those flaws.

When PuttItOut suicided voat, M7 talked about how he keeps costs low for saidit, apparently unlike old voat. So I assume he's just absorbing the ongoing costs. (Or someone is paying to study us, but probably not.) Saidit could be great again if it just became an actual free speech site, and found a way to eliminate most of the spam.

Saidit was antiextremes.com when I made my account, and despite the name change, the policy of fence-riding that lingered has kept numbers low enough that driving even a few active users away really hurts the site. I don't have the tech skills or the patience to run a site like this, so I very much appreciate the work M7 has put into saidit, even if some of his efforts have (imo) hurt more than helped.


As for your discussion of niggers, and the people aware of them, it's helpful to have an accurate view of reality. Niggers are simply unable to adjust their behaviors to fit the norms of civilization. This is a problem for those of us who would prefer to live in a functional society.

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    [–]NodeThis is my flair. There are many like it, but this one is mine. 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (11 children)

    Everything you just said is wrong.

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    Try to make a counter-argument.

    [–]NodeThis is my flair. There are many like it, but this one is mine. 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

    By "erratic behaviors drive users away" he really means:

    Attacking other users as a site admin on a number of occasions.

    It [spam] ain't that bad.

    It's been worse, agreed.

    What he really means by this [the policy of fence-riding] is

    Like the word anti-extremes implies, ignoring factors like rightness and morality over simply mounting the fence between two positions, then censoring anything too far from the fence.

    Node and the other s/debatealtright idiots want CCP-level censorship

    s/debatealtright idiots

    Nice example.

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    Attacking other users as a site admin on a number of occasions.

    Which really means: I have unpopular opinions (like banning liquor) that offend snowflake neo-Nazis, so they have to go cry in their safe-space like a commie SJW.

    Like the word anti-extremes implies, ignoring factors like rightness and morality over simply mounting the fence between two positions, then censoring anything too far from the fence.

    Ohhhhh, that's what you mean. I agree with what you're saying, then, since Magnora7 did ban people and subs for being "too extreme" and I don't think he should'a done that. I thought you meant the opposite: that non-right-wingers should be banned.

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    Node - you're totally confused, and certainly wrong about several issues in your post. People like you turn people away from Saidit. For example, would any self-respecting person of color want to remain at Saidit, whilst reading your racist idiocy. Saidit can be an interesting place for debate and discussion, because of it's lax policies, but the verbal violence by people like you against others you don't agree with gets old and is really annoying. Some of your concerns about spam I agree with, and have argued in the past that Saidit requires more admins who can help deal with the obvious spammers. But as /u/TheAmeliaMay indicates, snowflakes who merely want to drag the conversation down are a serious problem at Saidit. Merely buck up and get on with the discussion, as you've done in part of your post.

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      Sorry abou that. Sometimes I think Node and others are only here to rant and be assholes, as if they have a mental illness and use Saidit as a cathartic avenue. Some of these people are also quite active on the site. One could remind Node that in Nazi Germany, one could be sent to the concentration camps and die there because they had similar "anti-social" mental illnesses. I've said before that Saiditors shouldn't throw stones in glass houses, because a "free speech" site should be the most tolerant of the broadest selection of voices (lunatics included). Silly me.

      [–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      The Node account is a paid social media influencer whose job is to disrupt and demoralize the site's users.

      [–]NodeThis is my flair. There are many like it, but this one is mine. 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      As if someone could pay me enough to become an employee... You, on the other hand, are the definition of a paid poster.

      [–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      You consistently and deliberately act in a manner to disrupt the site. I'm just some guy who posts.

      [–]Pononimus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      ""erratic behaviors drive users away" he really means:.." No, he means what he means and it doesn't require any translation or explanation and he's right! I've seen quite a bit of erratic behavior here from what few users actually use this place. It seems much more like psyche ward than a forum but that's also what makes it entertaining, too; watching the delusional and those who're hallucinating their way through life go through their various motions and it has nothing to do with popular or unpopular opinions and anyone who says that is just trying to manipulate all of us.

      [–]Pononimus[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

      First, wow! That was an amazingly well detailed and well written out post and it definitely tells me a lot about this place and, to some good extent, what it's gone through so thanks much for all that. As for the Indian Spam traffic (most likely Pakistan rather than India) why not create some filters to block out the most common but unique words in their spam or just block their domains the same way Mayanmar and Nigeria are blocking twitter? I mean, it can't be that hard. Also, how about blocking China while we're at it? I'm sure there's quite a few CCP operatives here just like there are on almost all other Social Media sites in the US. (Twitter's loaded with them and Book Of Faces gets more every day. It's nice to see that you appreciate hard work being done for the benefit of this site. I appreciate it too so thank M7 for me. So, there was only one boy pretending to be a girl, here? I'm assuming there's actually much more. Still it was (for lack of a better word) faggots like that which destroyed Voat and, slowly but eventually, 4chan, too. (Faggots really do ruin everything.) Okay, I agree that Saidit is still one of the best free speech sites but Ruqqus is at least just as goods and Me We is way up there on the free speech list, too. I've used the word "nigger" on both those sites and never had a problem. However, I referred to the owner of Book of Faces as "Dick Suckerberg and got a 30 day suspension because apparently he didn't like me unwittingly giving away details of his private life. (LOL) Anyway, as time goes by we see more and more of our freedoms disappear as we drift further and further away from the truth.

      [–]NodeThis is my flair. There are many like it, but this one is mine. 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      So, there was only one boy pretending to be a girl, here?

      As an admin, that's my impression. The other two admins are pretty decent, afaik.

      I've used Ruqqus, but I just don't like the physical appearance of the site, and the "guild" thing is weird. It's like someone was trying to make it into a medieval game, which screams "kid site" to me.

      Anyway, as time goes by we see more and more of our freedoms disappear

      Yep, we're in that section of the timeline. Our species is going off the rails in general. Would be interesting to know if it's just due to our inherent characteristics, or if 'cosmic rays' and other bombardments have affected our behaviors.

      [–]Pononimus[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      Thanks for replying. Yeah, it does seem pretty slow but another administrator told me that it's because there's really not a lot of people on Saidit and, like you said, most admins are pretty decent folks, as I've seen for myself so far (except for the one exception of that megalomaniac power tripping faggot who runs AltRight). Mentioning the guild thing... Yeah, it does take some getting used to. Also the site's not as easy or as intuitive as most social media sites, including Saidit. As for Cosmic Rays, well, all life on Earth has been bombarded by those things for billions of years and, so far, they've had little to no effect on us so why would that change now? (No, it wouldn't be because of "global warming" or "climate change", which is really just a scam intent on extracting as many tax dollars out of as many people as possible. They already do that out here with various "climate" taxes attached to all kinds of purchases.) The very reasonable and sane reason that humans are going off the rails, like you said, is that young people are very easily manipulated, especially when their greed, ego and selfishness are targeted. Also, being young, they have a strong desire to "fit in" and prove themselves. This is another aspect that's easily manipulated by skilled con men and women who know how to effectively brainwash people to a specific purpose. This is the very basis of modern Marxism, and that's the reason I hate it so much; Marxism is not "legitimate" in the sense that people don't naturally see it as an attractive, effective or positive political philosophy, which is why they have to be tricked and conned into liking it. I like your take on the Guild thing. You're right. That does make it sound like Wizards and Dragons are bound to come bursting through doors or windows announcing new quests any second.

      [–]NodeThis is my flair. There are many like it, but this one is mine. 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEv3HRIVPUQ

      Perhaps more info on the cyclic nature of 'cosmic bombardment' will interest you. This video will probably be more interesting than citations of the actual effects on humans from the various cosmic forces.

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          having spent years in the San Francisco gay community

          This explains a lot.

          [–]Pononimus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

          Oh, hey, look, everybody! It's that power tripping little faggot from /AltRight! Let's all take a minute to laugh at him! XD LOL!

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            [–]Pononimus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            NAZI LOSER DETECTED.

            [–]Pononimus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

            Do you see the Jewish Lady? Is the Jewish Lady in the room with us, now? ;)