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[–]NodeThis is my flair. There are many like it, but this one is mine. 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (29 children)

It's at least partly because M7 has a love/hate relationship with the kind of people who would want to use a site like this. Unfair bannings cause other users to leave out of sympathy for the victims. The site has gone offline for multiple days at a time twice in the past couple months. M7 thought it would be a good idea to make a teenage boy pretending to be a girl one of the admins, and their erratic behaviors drive users away. Spam on the front page is out of control, and is probably the bulk of site traffic starting on March 21st.

https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/saidit.net

🇮🇳 India 48.1%

Scroll down to the usage graph, and while you can't see it anymore, that massive jump on 3/21 was preceded by many months of a steady decline. You can't trust Alexa to be totally accurate, but that is a weird and dramatic surge in site traffic that doesn't appear authentic.

a free speech platform.

It's definitely not. But what's really unfortunate is that saidit is still one of the best commenting/link-aggregator sites around, despite all those flaws.

When PuttItOut suicided voat, M7 talked about how he keeps costs low for saidit, apparently unlike old voat. So I assume he's just absorbing the ongoing costs. (Or someone is paying to study us, but probably not.) Saidit could be great again if it just became an actual free speech site, and found a way to eliminate most of the spam.

Saidit was antiextremes.com when I made my account, and despite the name change, the policy of fence-riding that lingered has kept numbers low enough that driving even a few active users away really hurts the site. I don't have the tech skills or the patience to run a site like this, so I very much appreciate the work M7 has put into saidit, even if some of his efforts have (imo) hurt more than helped.


As for your discussion of niggers, and the people aware of them, it's helpful to have an accurate view of reality. Niggers are simply unable to adjust their behaviors to fit the norms of civilization. This is a problem for those of us who would prefer to live in a functional society.

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    [–]NodeThis is my flair. There are many like it, but this one is mine. 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (11 children)

    Everything you just said is wrong.

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    Try to make a counter-argument.

    [–]NodeThis is my flair. There are many like it, but this one is mine. 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

    By "erratic behaviors drive users away" he really means:

    Attacking other users as a site admin on a number of occasions.

    It [spam] ain't that bad.

    It's been worse, agreed.

    What he really means by this [the policy of fence-riding] is

    Like the word anti-extremes implies, ignoring factors like rightness and morality over simply mounting the fence between two positions, then censoring anything too far from the fence.

    Node and the other s/debatealtright idiots want CCP-level censorship

    s/debatealtright idiots

    Nice example.

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    Attacking other users as a site admin on a number of occasions.

    Which really means: I have unpopular opinions (like banning liquor) that offend snowflake neo-Nazis, so they have to go cry in their safe-space like a commie SJW.

    Like the word anti-extremes implies, ignoring factors like rightness and morality over simply mounting the fence between two positions, then censoring anything too far from the fence.

    Ohhhhh, that's what you mean. I agree with what you're saying, then, since Magnora7 did ban people and subs for being "too extreme" and I don't think he should'a done that. I thought you meant the opposite: that non-right-wingers should be banned.

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    Node - you're totally confused, and certainly wrong about several issues in your post. People like you turn people away from Saidit. For example, would any self-respecting person of color want to remain at Saidit, whilst reading your racist idiocy. Saidit can be an interesting place for debate and discussion, because of it's lax policies, but the verbal violence by people like you against others you don't agree with gets old and is really annoying. Some of your concerns about spam I agree with, and have argued in the past that Saidit requires more admins who can help deal with the obvious spammers. But as /u/TheAmeliaMay indicates, snowflakes who merely want to drag the conversation down are a serious problem at Saidit. Merely buck up and get on with the discussion, as you've done in part of your post.

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      [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      Sorry abou that. Sometimes I think Node and others are only here to rant and be assholes, as if they have a mental illness and use Saidit as a cathartic avenue. Some of these people are also quite active on the site. One could remind Node that in Nazi Germany, one could be sent to the concentration camps and die there because they had similar "anti-social" mental illnesses. I've said before that Saiditors shouldn't throw stones in glass houses, because a "free speech" site should be the most tolerant of the broadest selection of voices (lunatics included). Silly me.

      [–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      The Node account is a paid social media influencer whose job is to disrupt and demoralize the site's users.

      [–]NodeThis is my flair. There are many like it, but this one is mine. 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      As if someone could pay me enough to become an employee... You, on the other hand, are the definition of a paid poster.

      [–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      You consistently and deliberately act in a manner to disrupt the site. I'm just some guy who posts.

      [–]Pononimus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      ""erratic behaviors drive users away" he really means:.." No, he means what he means and it doesn't require any translation or explanation and he's right! I've seen quite a bit of erratic behavior here from what few users actually use this place. It seems much more like psyche ward than a forum but that's also what makes it entertaining, too; watching the delusional and those who're hallucinating their way through life go through their various motions and it has nothing to do with popular or unpopular opinions and anyone who says that is just trying to manipulate all of us.

      [–]Pononimus[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

      First, wow! That was an amazingly well detailed and well written out post and it definitely tells me a lot about this place and, to some good extent, what it's gone through so thanks much for all that. As for the Indian Spam traffic (most likely Pakistan rather than India) why not create some filters to block out the most common but unique words in their spam or just block their domains the same way Mayanmar and Nigeria are blocking twitter? I mean, it can't be that hard. Also, how about blocking China while we're at it? I'm sure there's quite a few CCP operatives here just like there are on almost all other Social Media sites in the US. (Twitter's loaded with them and Book Of Faces gets more every day. It's nice to see that you appreciate hard work being done for the benefit of this site. I appreciate it too so thank M7 for me. So, there was only one boy pretending to be a girl, here? I'm assuming there's actually much more. Still it was (for lack of a better word) faggots like that which destroyed Voat and, slowly but eventually, 4chan, too. (Faggots really do ruin everything.) Okay, I agree that Saidit is still one of the best free speech sites but Ruqqus is at least just as goods and Me We is way up there on the free speech list, too. I've used the word "nigger" on both those sites and never had a problem. However, I referred to the owner of Book of Faces as "Dick Suckerberg and got a 30 day suspension because apparently he didn't like me unwittingly giving away details of his private life. (LOL) Anyway, as time goes by we see more and more of our freedoms disappear as we drift further and further away from the truth.

      [–]NodeThis is my flair. There are many like it, but this one is mine. 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      So, there was only one boy pretending to be a girl, here?

      As an admin, that's my impression. The other two admins are pretty decent, afaik.

      I've used Ruqqus, but I just don't like the physical appearance of the site, and the "guild" thing is weird. It's like someone was trying to make it into a medieval game, which screams "kid site" to me.

      Anyway, as time goes by we see more and more of our freedoms disappear

      Yep, we're in that section of the timeline. Our species is going off the rails in general. Would be interesting to know if it's just due to our inherent characteristics, or if 'cosmic rays' and other bombardments have affected our behaviors.

      [–]Pononimus[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      Thanks for replying. Yeah, it does seem pretty slow but another administrator told me that it's because there's really not a lot of people on Saidit and, like you said, most admins are pretty decent folks, as I've seen for myself so far (except for the one exception of that megalomaniac power tripping faggot who runs AltRight). Mentioning the guild thing... Yeah, it does take some getting used to. Also the site's not as easy or as intuitive as most social media sites, including Saidit. As for Cosmic Rays, well, all life on Earth has been bombarded by those things for billions of years and, so far, they've had little to no effect on us so why would that change now? (No, it wouldn't be because of "global warming" or "climate change", which is really just a scam intent on extracting as many tax dollars out of as many people as possible. They already do that out here with various "climate" taxes attached to all kinds of purchases.) The very reasonable and sane reason that humans are going off the rails, like you said, is that young people are very easily manipulated, especially when their greed, ego and selfishness are targeted. Also, being young, they have a strong desire to "fit in" and prove themselves. This is another aspect that's easily manipulated by skilled con men and women who know how to effectively brainwash people to a specific purpose. This is the very basis of modern Marxism, and that's the reason I hate it so much; Marxism is not "legitimate" in the sense that people don't naturally see it as an attractive, effective or positive political philosophy, which is why they have to be tricked and conned into liking it. I like your take on the Guild thing. You're right. That does make it sound like Wizards and Dragons are bound to come bursting through doors or windows announcing new quests any second.

      [–]NodeThis is my flair. There are many like it, but this one is mine. 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEv3HRIVPUQ

      Perhaps more info on the cyclic nature of 'cosmic bombardment' will interest you. This video will probably be more interesting than citations of the actual effects on humans from the various cosmic forces.

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          [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

          having spent years in the San Francisco gay community

          This explains a lot.

          [–]Pononimus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

          Oh, hey, look, everybody! It's that power tripping little faggot from /AltRight! Let's all take a minute to laugh at him! XD LOL!

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            [–]Pononimus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            NAZI LOSER DETECTED.

            [–]Pononimus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

            Do you see the Jewish Lady? Is the Jewish Lady in the room with us, now? ;)

            [–]Questionable 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (8 children)

            You've only posted one post in 4 months, and you are complaining about nobody posting.

            And that one thread is this thread, where you are complaining about other people not posting.

            Are... Are you for real right now?

            [–]Pononimus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

            So, how much weed have YOU smoked, today? XD

            [–]Questionable 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

            My last bowl was 27 years ago. My last cigarette, 21. And Yes, I do own socks older than you.

            [–]Pononimus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

            So, you have socks that're more than sixty five years old? Well, aren't YOU a cheap bastard! Go buy some new socks!

            [–]Questionable 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

            You got me there. They are only 28 years old. And technically 'head socks', which are actually hats...

            makes note of suspects claimed age for future cross referencing

            [–]Pononimus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

            notices how annoyingly stupid and obnoxious this loser is. Puts them on block list to avoid further annoyance.

            [–]Questionable 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

            Puts self in bubble, blocking me, allowing me to say whatever I please about him, directly in front of his face, making a fool of him whenever I choose.

            [–]Pononimus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

            Okay, since you're going to stupidly insist... If you even bothered being not lazy for a just a minute or even half a minute you'd see I've posted a lot more than one time in four months and the reason I asked "how much did you smoke today" is because your question is so far out there in the ozone it's like something only a pot head would ask. So, since you've taken the time to say that "your last bowl was 27 years ago." I can only conclude that you're brain damaged!

            [–]Questionable 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            "I've posted a lot more than one time in four months and the reason I asked"

            Here is your post history.

            You have submitted one time during your entire history.

            You are asking for content, while not contributing to the community.

            Here for reference is my post history.

            [–]Salsashark 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

            I don't think it's old. It's just like other "free speech platforms". There's no real plan to grow it as a viable alternative to reddit. It's just a place for people to spout their bullshit politics without fear of pushback. People don't come here to talk gaming, or get relationship advice, or talk movies. Just politics. There's no point to subs, not that it's set up to find the subs you want. I'd like to see it become something, but it probably won't.

            [–]Pononimus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

            I appreciate what you said but I think it's funny that you would add "without pushback" when I was threatened with banning by a supposed "mod" for saying that "the whole white genocide thing is nothing but propaganda" so that's kind of weird to me. So, yeah, even here idiots will be idiots when given a little power. (As it turned out, the idiot that threatened me is an American Nazi, which is why they got upset over my saying the whole "white genocide" thing was propaganda. Having said all that I have to agree with you that it would be nice if this thing became something, like you said but, sadly, I very much doubt that it ever will. More likely it will become and remain a little backwater safety zone for Nazis, white supremacists, socialists, communists and whatever happens to stumble on this site.

            [–]Salsashark 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

            There are always going to be assholes on both sides. I detest how politics has become a non-theological religion. It's insane to me how people judge other people on their voting habits. They're no better than Christians in the old days that'd murder non-believers. I wanted Voat to become something as well, but it just became a place for middle-aged white trash that couldn't wait to drop an n-bomb. And now it's gone. I don't want to see Saidit go the same way.

            [–]Pononimus[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

            First, historical correction: it wasn't "Christians" who murdered non believers, it was Catholics; an abominable offshoot and corruption of the Christian faith. Now, you're right. There are always going to be assholes, jerks, idiots, morons and retards on every social media site on Earth but that's part of what makes it interesting as long as those same assholes et al don't get a power trip going because they get a little power. I haven't been to Voat but, I have to ask.... How do you define "middle-aged white trash" and how do you identify it when you see it? As for the word, nigger, well, it's just a word and, in the words of the amazing and incredible Lieutenant Uhura from Star Trek; "Why would I be offended or upset by a word? In our age we've learned not to fear words."

            Words only have the power over us that we choose to give them. Give words no power and they have none; a lesson both the Left and the Right have yet to learn.

            On another note I think it's ironic that you blame Voat's demise on "Middle Age White Trash" when I've seen posts that blame "traps" and "trannies", "commies" and "nazis" and "alt right" with just as much vehemence and conviction but the simple truth is this: Voat went out of business for lack of money. Simple as that. As for Saidit becoming something, well, we'll just have to wait and see what happens but, considering how much effort Facebook and Twitter are putting into furiously crushing all competition who knows what'll really happen?

            [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

            Voat went out of business for lack of money. Simple as that.

            The owner of Voat (I forget his name) had hundreds of thousands of dollars in crypto. What happened was he sold the source code to one company, and that company ended up being acquired by another company which was owned by an IDF intelligence agent. And they "SHUT. IT. DOWN."

            [–]Pononimus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

            Citation needed.

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            [–]Pononimus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            Wow, thanks for insulting my intelligence and yours!

            It's a blog. Here's the URL.

            https://telegra.ph/

            Anyone can write anything they want on Telegraph.

            Get lost!

            [–]Salsashark 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

            I used to have a roommate that'd wear things and say things just to get a rise out of people. He'd say fucked up things and post swasticas on Facebook, then bitch and moan when he got put in Facebook jail. That's how I view people that throw around nigger. They're looking for drama and they complain when they get it. I've never felt the need. I'm secure in myself, and I don't feel any need to upset people just to make myself feel special. So I don't say it. I don't care if a 80 year old lady says it's just a word.

            [–]Pononimus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            Exactly. It is just a word and should always be treated as such and that's my whole point but you're right about there being people who do things for shock value and nothing else; it is just for attention but there are real (and very dangerous) neo-nazis out there who use that word all the time because it's part of their vocabulary. Personally, I don't use the word because I don't see the point since it has no real meaning other than as a derogatory slur and has no purpose other than to incite and God knows there's plenty of people in this world (too many, really) who's sole intent seems to be to do nothing but incite others like your old swastika friend.

            [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

            Stay away from s/debatealtright; it's a cesspool.

            [–]Pononimus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

            Thanks! I already waded through that toilet a bit, today, and discovered that it's run by a Nazi loving little faggot who likes to throw threats at people who say things he doesn't like. Still, thanks for letting me know. I appreciate it.

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              [–]Pononimus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

              I appreciate your warning, thanks. I've already blocked the thing. But, it just proves what most normal people already know: faggots are mentally ill and this guy is a megalomaniac. Still, I don't see his little page or whatever it's called lasting for very long before everyone just stops posting in it.

              [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

              As usual with the deranged trannies, there are no low they can't reach, including spreading lies about users on the site they are supposed to protect.

              It seems you still fail to understand what happened. Sigh.

              [–]Pononimus[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

              Since this place really is turning into a really bad version of 4chan let's all take a lesson from their notorious /b/ board:

              "The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact."

              Now let's never forget that.

              [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

              There ain't many active members, to be honest, and they don't post all that much.

              [–]Pononimus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

              It's more active than Ruqqus! XD LOL

              [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

              I've never used Ruqqus, so I wouldn't know

              [–]Pononimus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

              It's sort of like this only (the downside) there's a lot more 12 YO troll wanna-be 4chan rejects there than there are here so there is that. Also, it's not quite so active as Saidit. Still, it's okay for an alternative source.

              [–]Pononimus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

              Go into any post. Scroll to the bottom. Look for "Users here now." You will never see more than five users on Saidit at any time ever. That's because, right now, there really are only about five Saidit members, not counting those who come and go every day. It's basically the exact same as 4chan was back in its earliest days in 2003, when there were never more than ten anons at most on the site at any given time.