The Truth Why Stupid People Think They're Smart . one for u/Jesus and others who think their blinding simplicity of view is in anyway meaningful.

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[–]Questionable 17 insightful - 8 fun17 insightful - 7 fun18 insightful - 8 fun -  (7 children)

Do you think you should be targeting individuals saiditers for ridicule or censure in your title?

I'm not 100% certain of the rules around here. But this seems like a really bad idea on your part.

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              [–]Lahontan 15 insightful - 4 fun15 insightful - 3 fun16 insightful - 4 fun -  (27 children)

              u/Jesus provides well-researched synopses of all kinds of diabolical goings on, but you can't cope so you think they're an idiot. Who do you think your video is describing? What empirical evidence have you shown that refutes anything u/Jesus has said? Please, enlighten me as to how they're wrong on something.

              [–][deleted] 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

              He can't, he's too busy jerking off Dershowitz.

              [–]bobbobbybob[S] 1 insightful - 4 fun1 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 4 fun -  (25 children)

              You're a zionist chabadists neocon warhawk. etc

              Everything is a zionist false flag. Literally, everything.

              [–]Zahn 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (21 children)

              Man up and disprove his premises boobobboobob, instead of posting an opinion piece. No one's saying concepts are 100% accurate, but you're batting Zero for any substance to your non existent counterpoints.

              [–]bobbobbybob[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (20 children)

              I cannot disprove his premises, as his arguments are circular, and any attempt at disproof is met by absurd reduction back to "zionists". Whatever it is, whatever facts are brought, they are dismissed and its blamed on zionists. Everything is, to Jesus, fake, and behind the assumed fakeness are zionists.

              Try him yourself.

              [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (17 children)

              I have never seen anything u/Jesus wrote contradicting my own research into the causes of modern society's problems. I have had minor detail disagreements with him, but frankly YOU are the one who is coming off as an absurd reductionist.

              Also Jews are the cancer, poison and death of the world. I don't need any propaganda to know this. My objectively looking into that topic has clearly shown this to be a fact. A fact many people dislike, but that does not make it any less a FACT.

              [–]bobbobbybob[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

              Also Jews are the cancer, poison and death of the world.

              See, this is the bit that we all agree on, but for some reason, rabid people seem to think that not minding israel is the equivalent of being a fully fledged Zionist. So everything that I say to said rabid people is responded to with tiresome rants and strawman attacks, because of that preheld mis belief. It makes conversations tiring and most importantly, boring.

              Jesus posts lots of links, yes. Generally very partisan links, and in some cases utterly irrelevant or simply misleading. Posting links does not make an argument 'better' unless those links are on topic, relevant and sourced themselves.

              "trump kills more than obama' for example, was highly misleading. Yes, more died, but no, Trump didn't order the deaths, they happened at the hands of 'allies' and, in one case, Russia. I don't think those deaths can be used to then claim that Trump is a rabid Zionist baby killer. for example. There is little point arguing that, though, because we've gone too far into the trigger zone, so rational thought is unavailable until reset.

              As soon as some starts to screech "you are a ....", debate is basically over, and its just a shit slinging exercise. I'm very patient, so often wear my opponent back down into rational communication. That's my 'style'. keep engaging, adapt my level to match (I call it the fyf technique, or 'fuck you, faggot'), force gross errors (much better if I can push the person to keep mis-labelling me on things that I have a position they agree on), point them out, give the option to grow up and return to civility. Often works.

              YOU are the one who is coming off as an absurd reductionist.

              What, exactly, have i 'reduced'. Name something where i've got a black and white model that I force onto complexity.... or did you mean "i don't like what you are saying, so i'll use your argument 'back at you' because that works well in fights with others and makes me feel superior"?

              [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (13 children)

              I think slinging Dunning-Kruger at u/Jesus and then adding "blinding simplicity of view" constitutes a personal attack, and one that is, by its nature, absurd reductionism.

              Has u/Jesus posted things I have some disagreement with? Yes. But I think you are going way too far in reducing an entire user's post history as "dunning-kruger effect while posting things from a blinding simplicity of view" is going very much overboard.

              [–]bobbobbybob[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

              I think slinging Dunning-Kruger at u/Jesus and then adding "blinding simplicity of view" constitutes a personal attack, and one that is, by its nature, absurd reductionism.

              I consider being constantly called names a personal attack too, so fair is fair on that one. but sure, if that's your criteria for reductionism, then anything anyone ever says that simplifies complexity is, by its nature, reductionism.

              I never used the words "Dunning-Kruger effect". So thats a "straw man" argument.

              I said that taking every single event in the world and blaming it on zionists is the failure, and the idiotic one. Because lots of people can be cunts, not just the ones who have a holy book telling them to be cunts. So, for example blaming the autonomous actions of violent antifa cunts on zionist false flags is invalid, and is a sign of bias, not insight. Making sense yet?

              [–]Jesus 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (11 children)

              ANTIFA isn't autonomous. And they're violent radicals nonetheless.

              ANTIFA's origins was largely a Jewish invention. Read the Forward article about ANTIFA's origins.

              I simply made the case that Right-wing Zionists worked with P2/3 lodge in strategy of tension operations. They are doing this today.

              [–]boeing737 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

              Antifa do Hanukkah in secret

              [–]bobbobbybob[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

              ANTIFA isn't autonomous

              the individuals within it are autonomous. They are making their own choices, not slaves.

              [–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

              trump kills more than obama' for example, was highly misleading. Yes, more died, but no, Trump didn't order the deaths, they happened at the hands of 'allies' and, in one case, Russia.

              Has he stopped them as commander in cheif. No, he has increased drone strikes and has revoked what Obama signed into law making collateral deaths public.

              [–]bobbobbybob[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

              misleading is misleading

              [–]boeing737 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

              Reading talmud a day makes your goyim wife go away

              [–]Jesus 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

              Yup, everything is fake. Yup, that's it. You got me.

              [–]boeing737 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

              You are a hoax

              [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

              It is though. I'm not one to believe Antelman and Chamdish's pseudo-conspiracy theories. That's all the likudnik Zionists have going for them.

              Attacking Sabbateabs and Frankists.

              The problem with Atlanticism is the CIA and right-Wing Zionism aligned with the Likud. JFK was assassinated by the CIA and mossad. 9/11 was a Mossad/CIA job.

              [–]Optimus85 7 insightful - 5 fun7 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

              Someone's itchin' for a bannin'.

              [–]Nemesis 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (7 children)

              There are a lot of mentally ill people on here that use the website as free therapy, and constantly spam their cope hoping for comfort and validation. It's easier to boil the world down to a 5 minute rant, "X happens because of those damned Y!" , instead of having to deal with the fact that everything matters, many things are connected (not just a singular people or bad actor), clear cause and effects are rarities, and true revelations take hard work, research, and honest reflection, not a sourceless 4chan green text or some youtube rant.

              [–]jet199Instigatrix 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

              The trouble is some people going through their personal demons online can radicalise others who take it at face value. You have to take responsibility for the fact that if you tell the whole internet that a particular group of people are trying to kill them then a few individuals will decide they need to defend themselves violently. Just like Anders Breivik had an internet bubble of a couple of hundred people telling him his views were correct and cheering on his talk of violence before he shot a load of kids then afterwards they were all "We didn't mean it like that ..."

              [–]bobbobbybob[S] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

              should be sic the fbi on the people screaming about zionists all the time?

              [–]Jesus 6 insightful - 5 fun6 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

              I'm shaking in my boots right now.

              I'm scurd.

              [–]jet199Instigatrix 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

              No need, I'm sure we're all on a list just for being here.

              [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

              We're all on numerous lists for being the many virtual places we visit online. It's not "whether" anybody is on a list, it's HOW HIGH we each are.

              [–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

              😮

              [–]Zahn 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

              Sounds like you're manifesting you're own cope because your narrow mind can't comprehend abstract and complex patterns. It's easier to smugly pat yourself on the back by dismissively slandering people you don't agree with as "mentally ill".

              [–]book-of-saturday 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

              Did Jesus steal your girlfriend or what? Sorry man, but this post just screams butthurt.

              [–]bobbobbybob[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

              No, far worse. Jesus bored me

              [–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

              You should love Jesus with all your heart.

              [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 6 fun4 insightful - 5 fun5 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

              Did our periods synch up, why's everyone getting called out lately?

              [–]bobbobbybob[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

              love how no one watched the video...

              [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

              I watched a minute of it before getting bored and returning my attention to my gallon of shitty wine I bought.

              Did you know it's generally more inexpensive, if you need a gallon sized jug, to buy one filled with cheap wine than to buy an empty one?

              The wandering Spec's clerk thought it was quite the commitment to drink a gallon of shitty wine in "3 days." 3 days. It's both a blessing and a curse that Specs is the one liquor store where nobody remembers who I am.

              [–]bobbobbybob[S] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

              if you need a gallon sized jug, to buy one filled with cheap wine than to buy an empty one?

              That is a kind of genius. Although cheap wine makes nice vinegar if you have a tasty mother

              [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

              I learned it from reading homebrewing sites. I need 3 jugs in total since I have 3 airlocks.

              Although cheap wine makes nice vinegar if you have a tasty mother

              I haven't ever meant to make vinegar. It happens really easy if your alcohol is exposed to too much oxygen. I didn't realize some were tastier than others although I suppose that stands to reason.

              [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

              Most of us already knew about he Dunning-Kruger effect.

              [–]bobbobbybob[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

              You just displayed it. You assumed you had superior knowledge, and so rejected watching a video that you assumed to be something that you had already heard of.

              This video is actually very insightful, in a number of ways, and expands on the limited DK concept a great deal. I recommend it.

              DK boils down to 'stupid people don't know what they don't know, so what they do know seems like everything'. But it doesn't really give you a feel for what it is like to be the stupid person. Intelligent people have a different lived experience.

              [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

              Oh believe you me, I have been an ardent student of stupidity for over 50 years. And I did not assume I had superior knowledge, only superior ease of getting bored. And when I get bored, I fall asleep. I am very ill, and anything I will lend my attention to for any length of time had better be very much worth it. ESPECIALLY when I should be sleeping in an attempt at recovering some measure of health.

              I made it to 4 minutes in, where the first mistake is made in the video: it is not the brain that has an egocentric bias. But then to explain this I would have to write up many pages' worth of explaining in simple terms the structure of mind, ego, how thought processes happen, what thought is, and many other things. Basically, I don't care enough for any of this. kthxbai.

              Also, you're the one assuming you have superior information, assuming that I believe I have superior information when in fact I have inferior interest and time to devote to the matter. Careful.

              [–]bobbobbybob[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

              I stand corrected. My apologies. The video wasn't basic DK, though, was it/

              I would have to write up many pages' worth of explaining in simple terms the structure of mind, ego, how thought processes happen, what thought is, and many other things. Basically, I don't care enough for any of this. kthxbai.

              That would be interesting. I spent many years researching mind, the nature of consciousness. As a job.

              Also, you're the one assuming you have superior information, assuming that I believe I have superior information when in fact I have inferior interest and time to devote to the matter. Careful.

              'no, you'. whatever

              [–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

              Ok nigger