The Truth Why Stupid People Think They're Smart . one for u/Jesus and others who think their blinding simplicity of view is in anyway meaningful.

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[–]bobbobbybob[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

Also Jews are the cancer, poison and death of the world.

See, this is the bit that we all agree on, but for some reason, rabid people seem to think that not minding israel is the equivalent of being a fully fledged Zionist. So everything that I say to said rabid people is responded to with tiresome rants and strawman attacks, because of that preheld mis belief. It makes conversations tiring and most importantly, boring.

Jesus posts lots of links, yes. Generally very partisan links, and in some cases utterly irrelevant or simply misleading. Posting links does not make an argument 'better' unless those links are on topic, relevant and sourced themselves.

"trump kills more than obama' for example, was highly misleading. Yes, more died, but no, Trump didn't order the deaths, they happened at the hands of 'allies' and, in one case, Russia. I don't think those deaths can be used to then claim that Trump is a rabid Zionist baby killer. for example. There is little point arguing that, though, because we've gone too far into the trigger zone, so rational thought is unavailable until reset.

As soon as some starts to screech "you are a ....", debate is basically over, and its just a shit slinging exercise. I'm very patient, so often wear my opponent back down into rational communication. That's my 'style'. keep engaging, adapt my level to match (I call it the fyf technique, or 'fuck you, faggot'), force gross errors (much better if I can push the person to keep mis-labelling me on things that I have a position they agree on), point them out, give the option to grow up and return to civility. Often works.

YOU are the one who is coming off as an absurd reductionist.

What, exactly, have i 'reduced'. Name something where i've got a black and white model that I force onto complexity.... or did you mean "i don't like what you are saying, so i'll use your argument 'back at you' because that works well in fights with others and makes me feel superior"?

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (13 children)

I think slinging Dunning-Kruger at u/Jesus and then adding "blinding simplicity of view" constitutes a personal attack, and one that is, by its nature, absurd reductionism.

Has u/Jesus posted things I have some disagreement with? Yes. But I think you are going way too far in reducing an entire user's post history as "dunning-kruger effect while posting things from a blinding simplicity of view" is going very much overboard.

[–]bobbobbybob[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

I think slinging Dunning-Kruger at u/Jesus and then adding "blinding simplicity of view" constitutes a personal attack, and one that is, by its nature, absurd reductionism.

I consider being constantly called names a personal attack too, so fair is fair on that one. but sure, if that's your criteria for reductionism, then anything anyone ever says that simplifies complexity is, by its nature, reductionism.

I never used the words "Dunning-Kruger effect". So thats a "straw man" argument.

I said that taking every single event in the world and blaming it on zionists is the failure, and the idiotic one. Because lots of people can be cunts, not just the ones who have a holy book telling them to be cunts. So, for example blaming the autonomous actions of violent antifa cunts on zionist false flags is invalid, and is a sign of bias, not insight. Making sense yet?

[–]Jesus 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (11 children)

ANTIFA isn't autonomous. And they're violent radicals nonetheless.

ANTIFA's origins was largely a Jewish invention. Read the Forward article about ANTIFA's origins.

I simply made the case that Right-wing Zionists worked with P2/3 lodge in strategy of tension operations. They are doing this today.

[–]boeing737 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Antifa do Hanukkah in secret

[–]bobbobbybob[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

ANTIFA isn't autonomous

the individuals within it are autonomous. They are making their own choices, not slaves.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Autonomous individuals DON'T EXIST. Everybody's brainwashed to some degree, influenced to some degree, manipulated to some degree.

And just as...

  • Whites are particularly good at invention;

  • Blacks are particularly good at physical performance and music;

  • Asians are particularly good at manufacturing;

  • Others are particularly good at other things;

  • Jews are particularly good at manipulating, stealing, influencing.

[–]bobbobbybob[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Yeah, Agency and Autonomy are all we have. If people let the brainwashing stay, then that's their bad.

Free Wil is ours to claim, and to pretend that just because someone told you that bad things are good does not excuse you from analysing the situation and deciding to do the right thing.

Your words imply that no one is ever to blame, or to be held responsible, for their own actions, as they were just puppets.

If there's ever anything glowingly Kike, it is statements like that.

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/autonomy-moral/#:~:text=Individual%20autonomy%20is%20an%20idea,be%20in%20this%20way%20independent.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

There is a science of removing brainwashing. You can count the individuals who have access to it on the fingers of one hand. Otherwise the brainwashing stays.

Being brainwashed, influenced, manipulated, fooled, befuddled, we then "make decisions" based on all these problematic foreign elements of our psyche. Do you call that free will? I sure don't. And it has been proven that these factors of influence can have an individual commit ANY acts whatsoever, whether they be in accordance to some fundamental values of theirs or not.

There is no choice. You are a puppet until you take control of your own mind, and as I wrote, only a very tiny few know how to do that. I happen to be one of them.

Everything you absorb as a baby and a small child from your family, then later on in school, from acquaintances, and so on, and so forth, do not come FROM you. They are done TO you. But you absorb all these things and then claim autonomy? That's a bad joke man.

As for blame and responsibility, they are another matter entirely, but I don't believe in blame. Everything that happens to you is your responsibility and everything you do is your responsibility. But blame? Neh. Who can blame the evildoer when his mind is so befuddled that they don't know up from down?

[–]bobbobbybob[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Do you call that free will? I sure don't.

Yes. I call that free will.

but now I understand how people such as yourself can dismiss the violent actions of so many, and blame it on the jews. You look down on everyone else as brainwashed fools, only you have 'seen the truth'. except, of course, everyone thinks the same. What makes you SO SURE that you are right?

Fucking elitist twat.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Science is science, commie boy. What makes anybody so sure that NaCl is salt? IT JUST IS. But what if you could combine Na with Cl and NOT GET SALT? Then you live in an alternate dimension or some shit.

I don't look down on people. I myself have been brought to perform actions that go fully against everything I am about through this brainwashing shit I DENOUNCE. Now that I have acquired the keys to mastering all aspects of the mind, I can finally be free. And soon, so can everybody else. Yet many will scoff, saying we are "elitist twats" instead of actually doing the work themselves and acquiring actual freedom.

Suit yourself, slave. Your jewish owners approve.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

trump kills more than obama' for example, was highly misleading. Yes, more died, but no, Trump didn't order the deaths, they happened at the hands of 'allies' and, in one case, Russia.

Has he stopped them as commander in cheif. No, he has increased drone strikes and has revoked what Obama signed into law making collateral deaths public.

[–]bobbobbybob[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

misleading is misleading