USA: Donald Trump plans to drop charges against whistleblower Edward Snowden

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[–]ManWithABanana 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

limited hangouts

I have noticed that when technical terms like this are used, and the audience (me, and others) have no idea what they mean, and then they keep getting used, the story becomes less believable.

What I'm getting from context is a "limited hangout" is an intelligence agency revealing some, unimportant, details to the public. This is to make the public think that's the whole story. And I guess Snowden is one - okay.

What was always obvious to me was that Snowden was going to be wrong about some pieces of his story. Whatever he knew, it wasn't the complete picture. There's probably more going on than we all heard about, powerpoints and all the rest notwithstanding. None of that detracts from the critical message he tried to push out.

[–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Your definition is close, but I wouldn't say the details are "unimportant". Just the other day I defined it as, "_ A limited hangout is someone who tells part of the ugly truth, enough to make you stop asking questions despite the fact that there is MUCH more to be revealed._"

ie: "I confess I raped my sister." And they take him to jail for a bit, meanwhile he has 14 undiscovered corpses in his basement.

"Limited hangout" is hardly a rare nor technical term, though it is primarily used in government, media, deepstate and spycraft. A search will reveal much quickly:
https://SaidIt.net/search?q=limited+hangout
https://DuckDuckGo.com/?q=limited+hangout
https://WikiSpooks.com/wiki/Limited_hangout
https://en.Wikipedia.org/wiki/Limited_hangout

If you want to understand the levers of power and manipulation you'll need to learn their lingo. I don't see how a story becomes unbelievable because an (easily looked up) unknown term is repeatedly used, if anything, to me it would seem they know more about it and the terminology than I do.

If you come up with other curious terms research them and feel free to post what you discover in /s/Terminology, or ask, me or /u/Jesus or anyone, to draft up a clarification definition and/or post there.

I agree with your last paragraph too, in that the message was critical, though I don't know if Snowden was wrong about anything. More importantly is how this message was pushed out. It was a sneaky political theater psyop to have people believe the evil spying government let one slip away to reveal how they spy on us. No one in the government has the balls to just admit it - because that individual or group would be demonized and the spying could potentially be "shut down" (they would never actually close it).

[–]Jesus 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

A limited hangout is someone who tells part of the ugly truth, enough to make you stop asking questions despite the fact that there is MUCH more to be revealed._"

Precisely. I'm not saying Snowden is useless.

But he clearly is using perception management in many corporate news interviews.

And I cannot get myself by the fact rhat he had free reign on corporate news.

[–]ManWithABanana 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

"I confess I raped my sister." And they take him to jail for a bit, meanwhile he has 14 undiscovered corpses in his basement.

Okay. I'm not aware of what the corpses are when it comes to Snowden, all I've heard about is the rape. And I'm sure the corpses are there, to stretch the analogy, but it might not be 14 it might be less. It's probably an accurate term.

Still, I'm just suggesting that it's a really weird phrase. Neither one of us is a CIA employee.

More importantly is how this message was pushed out. It was a sneaky political theater psyop to have people believe the evil spying government let one slip away to reveal how they spy on us.

It's not necessary to invoke any conspiracy to explain what happened. Snowden was a bright guy who pulled all the right strings to get his message out. The public didn't care, the dumb bastards. Congress didn't fight the battle, the dumb schmucks. The three letter agencies all fought to keep the program because that's how life works. The president sided with the intelligence agencies, probably not seeing the damage he was doing.

[–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

No, Snowden did not rape nor murder that I'm aware of. That was just an extreme example of a hypothetical limited hangout in two short sentences.

Assange was accused of rape but it really wasn't even close (long story), but that's what they claim they're holding him for. That whole thing is ridiculous "justice" and another limited hangout.

Neither one of us is a CIA employee.

I know I'm not, but I could be lying. You could be too. Though generally this assumption is pretty safe to jump to. An employee is one thing, but their reach extends farther to assets, confidential informants, sources, etc. Also Mossad and other agencies are just as bad.

Nixon used "limited hangout". I agree, it is an odd phrase.

It's not necessary to invoke any conspiracy to explain what happened.

It's naïve not to. Most of the world is naïve as fuck, and that's why there's a 1% who exploit everyone else.

The president sided with the intelligence agencies

The presidents are always selected by the deep state. You're beyond naïve if you think Trump and Biden are the best America has to offer. I could find more righteous and more intelligent homeless people that would make better leaders.