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[–][deleted] 56 insightful - 2 fun56 insightful - 1 fun57 insightful - 2 fun -  (32 children)

As a lot of feminism and LGB related subs were banned, here are some subsaidits that may interest refugees from there:

[–]PrimeWolf88 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thank you so much for that list. This interface is new and hard to get the hang of for a nooby.

[–]Cindy 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Also, one of the few video games that has a predominantly-female userbase is Animal Crossing. It seems as if >80% of players are female which is frankly breathtaking in the sea of demographics. It's one of the few gaming communities where we really have control (not that control is important, but considering males dominate most of the culture of other games, yeah, you get what I'm saying). Not affiliated with the sub but hope to see it grow:

/s/AnimalCrossing

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

... are you trolling again "Cindy"? "We"? I had thought you were male...

[–]Cindy 1 insightful - 6 fun1 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

I was just LARPing

[–]StBlops2cel_is_Lord 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

80% of players are female

most are males LARPing as females, lol

[–]Cindy 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Lol!

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

I'm not sure that DropTheT counts as "feminist". You don't have to subscribe to feminist ideology to question gender ideology, and many people (myself included) do not.

[–]Ko-hi 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

DropTheT had a very inflammatory name, but it was mainly a space to discuss topics re: sexuality after sub after sub became dominated by gender discussions and the T part of LGBT.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

Interesting. I edited my list comment to "feminism and LGB related." Would you say DropTheT has an ideological bent at all?

If you feel like answering, what would you consider to be feminist ideology, and what do you disagree with about it?

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

A core component of feminist ideology, in the books I've read and of the popular speakers I've seen on twitter - and elsewhere - is the idea of equity. Equality in the traditional sense strives to mean everyone has an equal chance at something, whereas equity demands an equal outcome regardless between any arbitrary selection of people. I fundamentally do not agree with equity, see short stories like Harrison Bergeron, because no two people are truly born equal in any given thing. It contradicts science, as well, as cross-culturally on average men and women have slightly different personalities and interests. Not only do people differ, but genders will differ, and so far all I've seen are "feminists" decrying this as innate sexism. As if reality is sexist.

It is very frequently the case that feminists will, also, ignore the plights and inequalities men face as a nebulous other known as "patriarchy" instead of admitting systemic inequalities exist independently. They took a loose concept in early anthropology, one that is wholly inaccurate to describe cultures and blind to any nuance, and robbed it of context to broadly describe humanity as a whole. I can no more concede to "patriarchy" as valid than I will "equity" as the ultimate ideal of society. Instead, I subscribe to classical liberalism and utilitarianism. Everyone ought to be given as best as possible an equal chance at what they are best suited for, and as best as possible the utility of each person ought to be allowed to be gathered to the best of their ability or interest. Beyond that, for persons of little ability, they ought to be cared for by a society, for they would've hardly wished to be born in such a low condition of their own volition. This idea, to me, is about fairness. "Equity" isn't about fairness, it's about hobbling the best to make the worst feel better.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Interesting, thanks for explaining.

I guess it surprises me because I had thought LGB ideology operated in a similar way.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

I don't think I am an ideologue. If I am I certainly have never found a "camp" to align with. I only explained why I don't think I agree with feminism, and that I do not think DropTheT is inherently feminist. Since the problem I have with T's is the demand they, the activists and prominent figures, and corporations, that you believe they are what they say they are. Rejecting the demand you believe what someone else does about themselves is hardly inherently feminist, nor needs to be.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

I don't think I am an ideologue.

I guess for me it seems like there is a similar thing going on with LGB ideology. Would you consider it "homophobic" to say "I think homosexuality isn't a real thing, it's just a choice/behavior/interest like anything else humans do". I have found many people consider that to be a "bad" idea (because disputing it would create political difficulties for the LGB political movement, much the same reason Galileo was punished in his time for his truthseeking causing political difficulties for a different political group in his time.)

Would you consider that an idea that's perfectly fine to discuss and be curious about and explore, just like "why is the sky blue?" and any other idea?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I think anyone who argues human behavior is "a choice" in some meaningful fashion is already packaging in factually flawed notions of free will, as well as giving up the ground of their own sexuality. There's a reason everyone mocks those people, because if homosexuality is a choice they must concede heterosexuality is a choice, and if they don't resort to "muh bible" they've nothing to actually argue.

"Homophobic", though? I reserve that for people who actually do preserve and persist in contradictory hypocritical positions specially reserved for homosexuals. Like, you know, every trans person ever who argues not wanting to put your dick in a vagina is transphobic. Or the people who claim that "it's a choice" but then claim their own sexuality isn't a choice. It's a mindset, not an argument.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I guess to me things like "only the bible has arguments challenging these ideas" and "people who think very differently than I do about these topics are homophobic/bigots" seem more ideological and dogmatic.

At any rate, thanks for sharing your current thoughts about this. I'm not that familiar with LGBdroptheT so it's interesting to see what people have to say about it.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I've had countless arguments over countless hours with all sorts of people. If I am not allowed to summarize my experiences by accurately depicting the vast majority of them as "muh bible", which they generally are, what am I supposed to do? Write whole books and encyclopedias of transcripts? It isn't about "people who think differently", it's a special category of people I reserve as bigots who are explicitly hypocritical with respect to their treatment of others.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Would you consider it "homophobic" to say "I think homosexuality isn't a real thing, it's just a choice/behavior/interest like anything else humans do"

I would yes. That's basically the basis for conversion therapy.

[–]Bigs 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The fact it's a hate cult is something to have against it, that it's Marxist even more so, plus it's entirely fucking wrong about almost everything which is definitely a black mark, eh?

[–]lestratege 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

/s/Lesbians (for female women who've only ever experienced erotic interest in female women)

It's at once hilarious and sad that this had to come to this...

[–]TradLife4Life 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Really hoping people can add to this list. Would like to find some more traditional family / lifestyle subreddits. And of course all the other good ones (new right, the Donald, cringeanarchy, etc)

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes! Please list more subs you think might be relevant here! There's also /s/DiscoverSaidIt (though it's relatively new) for promoting subs.

These are some subs maybe more in this line:

Maybe related:

I think "The Donald" mostly moved to thedonald.win along with consumeproduct.win and some other similar subs at .win domains.

[–]heythere 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

can't believe they got around to banning PPF that place has been promoting violence for ages

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

that place has been promoting violence for ages

it has?

[–]heythere 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

yea they were clever about it though, they would say thing like I hope racists (insert link for meme with frog croaking) they weren't promoting violence against men in general though, although the bar for rapist wasn't the same as the legal bar. Standards of proof were also "this site called allmenarerapists.org told me he's a rapist"

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

hope racists

"racists" or "rapists"?

[–]heythere 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

second one