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[–][deleted] 56 insightful - 2 fun56 insightful - 1 fun57 insightful - 2 fun -  (32 children)

As a lot of feminism and LGB related subs were banned, here are some subsaidits that may interest refugees from there:

[–]PrimeWolf88 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thank you so much for that list. This interface is new and hard to get the hang of for a nooby.

[–]Cindy 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Also, one of the few video games that has a predominantly-female userbase is Animal Crossing. It seems as if >80% of players are female which is frankly breathtaking in the sea of demographics. It's one of the few gaming communities where we really have control (not that control is important, but considering males dominate most of the culture of other games, yeah, you get what I'm saying). Not affiliated with the sub but hope to see it grow:

/s/AnimalCrossing

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

... are you trolling again "Cindy"? "We"? I had thought you were male...

[–]Cindy 1 insightful - 6 fun1 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

I was just LARPing

[–]StBlops2cel_is_Lord 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

80% of players are female

most are males LARPing as females, lol

[–]Cindy 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Lol!

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

I'm not sure that DropTheT counts as "feminist". You don't have to subscribe to feminist ideology to question gender ideology, and many people (myself included) do not.

[–]Ko-hi 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

DropTheT had a very inflammatory name, but it was mainly a space to discuss topics re: sexuality after sub after sub became dominated by gender discussions and the T part of LGBT.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

Interesting. I edited my list comment to "feminism and LGB related." Would you say DropTheT has an ideological bent at all?

If you feel like answering, what would you consider to be feminist ideology, and what do you disagree with about it?

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

A core component of feminist ideology, in the books I've read and of the popular speakers I've seen on twitter - and elsewhere - is the idea of equity. Equality in the traditional sense strives to mean everyone has an equal chance at something, whereas equity demands an equal outcome regardless between any arbitrary selection of people. I fundamentally do not agree with equity, see short stories like Harrison Bergeron, because no two people are truly born equal in any given thing. It contradicts science, as well, as cross-culturally on average men and women have slightly different personalities and interests. Not only do people differ, but genders will differ, and so far all I've seen are "feminists" decrying this as innate sexism. As if reality is sexist.

It is very frequently the case that feminists will, also, ignore the plights and inequalities men face as a nebulous other known as "patriarchy" instead of admitting systemic inequalities exist independently. They took a loose concept in early anthropology, one that is wholly inaccurate to describe cultures and blind to any nuance, and robbed it of context to broadly describe humanity as a whole. I can no more concede to "patriarchy" as valid than I will "equity" as the ultimate ideal of society. Instead, I subscribe to classical liberalism and utilitarianism. Everyone ought to be given as best as possible an equal chance at what they are best suited for, and as best as possible the utility of each person ought to be allowed to be gathered to the best of their ability or interest. Beyond that, for persons of little ability, they ought to be cared for by a society, for they would've hardly wished to be born in such a low condition of their own volition. This idea, to me, is about fairness. "Equity" isn't about fairness, it's about hobbling the best to make the worst feel better.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Interesting, thanks for explaining.

I guess it surprises me because I had thought LGB ideology operated in a similar way.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

I don't think I am an ideologue. If I am I certainly have never found a "camp" to align with. I only explained why I don't think I agree with feminism, and that I do not think DropTheT is inherently feminist. Since the problem I have with T's is the demand they, the activists and prominent figures, and corporations, that you believe they are what they say they are. Rejecting the demand you believe what someone else does about themselves is hardly inherently feminist, nor needs to be.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

I don't think I am an ideologue.

I guess for me it seems like there is a similar thing going on with LGB ideology. Would you consider it "homophobic" to say "I think homosexuality isn't a real thing, it's just a choice/behavior/interest like anything else humans do". I have found many people consider that to be a "bad" idea (because disputing it would create political difficulties for the LGB political movement, much the same reason Galileo was punished in his time for his truthseeking causing political difficulties for a different political group in his time.)

Would you consider that an idea that's perfectly fine to discuss and be curious about and explore, just like "why is the sky blue?" and any other idea?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I think anyone who argues human behavior is "a choice" in some meaningful fashion is already packaging in factually flawed notions of free will, as well as giving up the ground of their own sexuality. There's a reason everyone mocks those people, because if homosexuality is a choice they must concede heterosexuality is a choice, and if they don't resort to "muh bible" they've nothing to actually argue.

"Homophobic", though? I reserve that for people who actually do preserve and persist in contradictory hypocritical positions specially reserved for homosexuals. Like, you know, every trans person ever who argues not wanting to put your dick in a vagina is transphobic. Or the people who claim that "it's a choice" but then claim their own sexuality isn't a choice. It's a mindset, not an argument.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I guess to me things like "only the bible has arguments challenging these ideas" and "people who think very differently than I do about these topics are homophobic/bigots" seem more ideological and dogmatic.

At any rate, thanks for sharing your current thoughts about this. I'm not that familiar with LGBdroptheT so it's interesting to see what people have to say about it.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I've had countless arguments over countless hours with all sorts of people. If I am not allowed to summarize my experiences by accurately depicting the vast majority of them as "muh bible", which they generally are, what am I supposed to do? Write whole books and encyclopedias of transcripts? It isn't about "people who think differently", it's a special category of people I reserve as bigots who are explicitly hypocritical with respect to their treatment of others.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Would you consider it "homophobic" to say "I think homosexuality isn't a real thing, it's just a choice/behavior/interest like anything else humans do"

I would yes. That's basically the basis for conversion therapy.

[–]Bigs 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The fact it's a hate cult is something to have against it, that it's Marxist even more so, plus it's entirely fucking wrong about almost everything which is definitely a black mark, eh?

[–]lestratege 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

/s/Lesbians (for female women who've only ever experienced erotic interest in female women)

It's at once hilarious and sad that this had to come to this...

[–]TradLife4Life 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Really hoping people can add to this list. Would like to find some more traditional family / lifestyle subreddits. And of course all the other good ones (new right, the Donald, cringeanarchy, etc)

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes! Please list more subs you think might be relevant here! There's also /s/DiscoverSaidIt (though it's relatively new) for promoting subs.

These are some subs maybe more in this line:

Maybe related:

I think "The Donald" mostly moved to thedonald.win along with consumeproduct.win and some other similar subs at .win domains.

[–]heythere 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

can't believe they got around to banning PPF that place has been promoting violence for ages

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

that place has been promoting violence for ages

it has?

[–]heythere 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

yea they were clever about it though, they would say thing like I hope racists (insert link for meme with frog croaking) they weren't promoting violence against men in general though, although the bar for rapist wasn't the same as the legal bar. Standards of proof were also "this site called allmenarerapists.org told me he's a rapist"

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

hope racists

"racists" or "rapists"?

[–]heythere 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

second one

[–]cartman005 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

Hello. Will Saidit be a good long-term Reddit alternative? Will there be any issues with copyright, as the current UI is clearly taken from Old Reddit.

[–]sproketboy 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Nope. It's all based on open sourced reddit code from years ago.

[–]cartman005 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Thank you. I didn't know they did that.

[–]theFriendlyDoomer 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The culture of Reddit (meaning the Reddit that was but will never return) was started by a really cool guy, Aaron Swartz. He believed in open source projects. He was too good for this world. May he rest in peace.

[–][deleted] 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Will Saidit be a good long-term Reddit alternative?

Personally, my main concerns for SaidIt as a long-term alternative are:

  • lack of decentralization as a central feature. It's federated at notabug.io/t/saidit.all so that may be solved well enough if notabug.io gets more peers, but you cant send content back into saidit that way (it only backs up and preserves the content). Lemmy may be a better alternatives for the future. I'd prefer a platform that is more difficult to take down, that has less of a central point of failure. If you're interested in other alternatives there's /s/SaidItAlternatives. The creators seem pretty positive about working with other alternative platforms which seems like a big plus to me.

  • I'm concerned that SaidIt will start to censor too much. I'm grateful to have a platform and for everything that works well with SaidIt, but I don't really think that the policies are being enforced fairly and uniformly as written. I also don't think the creator is that personally invested in the pyramid as a style of discourse considering he himself violates it somewhat frequently. It reminds me of the problems at reddit where censorship was happening in unfair ways, and it wasn't being acknowledged that it was happening. I do think it's better than reddit for now, though.

  • I think a more fully free speech platform is probably better. There are positives about the way SaidIt moderates the space (hey, I'm here right now, aren't I? I don't like reading all the gross stuff at some more fully free speech places), but I think ultimately it's not ideal for really free discourse.

[–]Zahn 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I don't like reading all the gross stuff at some more fully free speech places

Ya know, you don't actually have to read it. Just skip past it.

[–]jet199Instigatrix 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

It's certainly going to get interesting here with a bunch of old school angry feminists and a load of edgy teens trying to out racist each other.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Then let it get interesting. Freedom of speech is a better way to weed out bad ideas than moderation teams. If the masses are asses and espouse a bad idea, then it is usually even less likely for a select few to have better ideas in the long run, because those select few change over time. Someone else will wield the power or sit on the throne.

Even people on 4chan generally acknowledge where their opinions go too far, even when there seems to be an overwhelming group dynamic to tend towards a certain position. You might hear words like nigger there all the time and have posts making fun of IQ average of black people, but enough people will also acknowledge intelligent individuals from the same populations, such as Thomas Sowell. Freedom of speech is a better self-correction mechanism than censorship

Maybe your comment already agreed with that. I don't know. I am not saying this with the intention to argue, just share my opinion in the place in this thread where it seems to fit.

[–]emptiedriver 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

there are issues when you have people responding to your comments/ conversations, though. If you join a community that is dominated by really awful and unsalvageable commentators, it takes a lot of commitment before you can get a good group of engaged and sincere members who are willing to stick around...

[–]bug-in-recovery 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Is there any evidence that Saidit has censored thus far?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yes, there is no site-wide ban log for users or subs yet (though I hope this feature is added!), but user bans are a fairly regular occurrence. Most are for spam or for advocating violence, it seems. I think sub bans are fairly rare, but they have happened a few times too. You can look at the modlog for each sub (link is next to the mod list) which will note when content has been removed (though you can't currently see the removed content), but it won't show site-wide bans or sub bans.

There have been a few attempts to keep track of bans, neither of which look complete:

[–]SaidOverRed 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Good because the second they start talking using "stronger moderation" codewords, I'm out. Just like everyone else, I don't want to see commie propaganda, and I think the facists are a laughing stock, but there's far worse 'acceptable,' 'moderate' things people say. You can't sort it all short of a magic wand, so you just have to deal with yet another whoring glofication or conspiracy that doesn't pan out. Either you are strong enough to bear whatever is potentially useful, or you become a tool of the left.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Bad ideas always need censorship to survive. Freedom of speech has a tendency to weed them out. Err on the side of more freedom. It usually ends up not being in error.

There are behaviors such as spamming that can be addressed through technological, algorithmic means. Most sites now have built-in features to impose quotas and rate filters. That way, people are not really restricted in their speech, they have a clear expectation if they do want to build some form of automation for posting, analytics, or aggregation, and people are not impacted in what they can see. Spam can be a way to keep people from using free speech, which comes with freedom to also receive that speech, by obscuring other content. So, there, one can make a clear argument what to restrict that is also less prone to gray zones. If you want to make more than a post every 10 seconds or so, or more than a hundred posts in five minutes, you just have to slow down. There is probably very little that could be said without such restrictions. It is a restriction that impacts computers, which are the only entities that could create posts at such a pace, more than humans.

But I am not on board with the euphemistic way the term spam has come to be used, which is to describe content people deem as lacking value. That is entirely up to the reader and can be wielded in the same cry bully fashion with which harm comparable to physical has come to be alleged online to censor. Neither are we are not mind-readers who can determine with what mindset a person has authored a post.

[–]sistercrap 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

for a while, the source code to reddit was open and publicly available for download, then reddit changed it's position and simply stopped updating it.

to me, this means that they wanted to do things to their source code that they dont want you to know about.

[–]cutenoobies 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I hope r/thisneverhappens was archived and their data wasn't lost. It was just an awesome record of lunacy of gender ideology.

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    [–]cutenoobies 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    [–]DimDroog 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    Fuck yeah, thank you!

    [–]ctvzbuxr 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    We lift our lamp beside the golden door.

    [–]Wrencer 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Can I recover my deleted sub ?

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    there are some links in OP for ideas about recovering content from banned reddit subs, do those help at all?

    [–]zabaru 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

    Hello

    Wow, nice job on the look. Looks exactly the like old reddit which I liked!!

    What's the rules here? Hope this isn't China owned and censored like reddit!

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

    Hello!

    Looks exactly the like old reddit which I liked!!

    It's forked from the reddit source code from back when reddit was still open source!

    What's the rules here?

    basics:

    • don't advocate violence
    • no pornography
    • try to actually contribute to the conversation when you comment, with the pyramid of debate as your guide (as explained in the terms & content policy)

    welcome message, terms and content policy

    Hope this isn't China owned and censored like reddit!

    I don't think it is. It's funded by user donations right now.

    [–]zabaru 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Great!! Looking forward

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

    I think we should drop the porn rule. It's just another source for gray zones if there are borderline porn memes or something. We have the NSFW tag. As long as people use it, others can choose what they see, instead of restricting what people want to post.

    If porn was a black and white criterion, I would have less of an issue banning it. But what is seen as pornographic by one might not be considered pornographic by others. It's similar to what people consider violent or "hateful". Don't have loose threads hanging off your sweater. Someone is going to pull on them. We have seen this too often.

    I am not eager for porn on this site, though. There are already so many places where you can post porn. Even Twitter, who are so restrictive on political speech, is full of porn. What I don't have on Twitter is freedom of speech, though, so that's more important to me. If whoever are in charge of this site are reading this, consider not making unnecessary restrictions, even if you think that porn does nothing to further freedom of speech. It just gets messy (no pun intended) and we end up with such hypocritical pontifications as can be seen on Gab, from Andrew Torba. I would never invest in such a site because I know that once they are successful and no longer dependent on its founding members for support, they are just going to implement their own flavor of censorship. If there is a loose thread and you pull on it, usually the entire sweater eventually unravels. The fewer gray zones, the fewer moralizing rules the better.

    What one person considers pornographic might be different from what another thinks is pornographic. It's not so different from rules against violent content. What is violent? How violent? The same way censorship seeps in when making rules against violent content, offensive content, hateful content. You think it's a clear cut issue, because you have a very firm idea of what is "hateful", and lo and behold, other people have a different view of it. Then, those restrictions only get tighter. The current mods' bar might be at one level and the next wave is yet a little more sensitive. The next wave has even less tolerance until we have the set union of everything every group of past moderators have ever felt is hateful.

    Maybe it's better to think about this the other way around: What rules do we need? If a rule is not needed, don't have it. A creation is not perfect when you cannot add anything to it, it is perfect when you cannot remove anything from it.

    [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

    I think we should drop the porn rule.

    I'm sorry but the the thing I immediately thought when I saw the opening line was "username checks out". But to give a more serious reply:

    we end up with such hypocritical pontifications as can be seen on Gab, from Andrew Torba.

    what happened on gab?

    The same way censorship seeps in when making rules against violent content, offensive content, hateful content. You think it's a clear cut issue, because you have a very firm idea of what is "hateful", and lo and behold, other people have a different view of it. Then, those restrictions only get tighter.

    Yeah. It's nice to hear someone else who thinks this way (though I still wish it wasn't Mr. Screwtape! I honestly don't know what to make of this post.)

    Yeah, SaidIt isn't a free speech site. I think it tries, and is doing a better job than reddit. And this is why I wish they'd be a lot more strict about enforcing the pyramid of debate rule exactly as written instead of using it as kindof a loose guideline: because if you fudge it, it's easy to mess up and not be neutral. Even though it's designed to help make it neutral.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    username checks out

    It's actually a C.S. Lewis reference, the Screwtape Letters, which is more along the lines of a Christian exegesis or apologia. That is part of why I chose that username. I was also considering Wormwood, but he does not fit my character as well. Too often, though, I am the patient.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEf7sdiohjk

    The Screwtape Letters is a Christian apologetic novel by C. S. Lewis and dedicated to J. R. R. Tolkien. It is written in a satirical, epistolary style and while it is fictional in format, the plot and characters are used to address Christian theological issues, primarily those to do with temptation and resistance to it.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Screwtape_Letters

    I think it is fitting because we increasingly dismiss the teaching of Christianity and many of the sociological woes we are contending with are humorously illustrated in the book. Much of our condemnation of Christianity and western values that were somehow tied with it can be seen in our general attitudes towards ethics and morality. My stance on pornography is not to bring more lewdness to this world, which it certainly does not need, but to try to be morally consistent with our values of free speech we ostensibly proclaim.

    What happened on Gab?

    It seemed that Andrew Torba, its CEO, got increasingly power hungry and was imposing his own morality on the site. He was pretty outspoken against Hentai and especially material with younger characters. The letter might be understandable, but he increasingly seemed like some priest on a mission and he wanted to transform his Gab clique into some sort of commune. One of the reasons he refrained from downright implementing speech restrictions on Gab was more because it would hurt the initial growth on Gab, not because he viewed it as inconsistent with his stance of free speech absolutism. I am very wary of people like that, because those places usually start out with proclaiming the values and virtues of free speech only for the administrators and other stuff to become increasingly vindictive, until we are back to having little Napoleons ruling over their imagined online empire. All these sites, Twitter, YouTube, Gab, Minds -- they always start out drawing users in with lures of freedom of expression, only to later clamp down when they are no longer reliant on the initial support. I would much prefer a site that is anti-authoritarian, free speech absolutist by design because I do not want to be reliant on the good will of staff and admins, which change over time. That is precisely how these places get reindeer kin and other such characters, as in the case of Twitch, who then ruin the site because it did not have something of the sort of a strong constitution, a founding document, that ensured that the user base could dispose of tyrants, similar to how the US Constitution made provisions to rid themselves of corruption and combat the loss of liberty.

    Your affectionate uncle,

    Screwtape

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    Yes I recognized that it was a reference to "The Screwtape Letters," though it's been a long time since I read that. Screwtape was one of the demons trying to tempt humans into sin... perhaps by putting a bunch of pornography on their site ... no?

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Oh, I was wondering if that was the reason for your comment. I explained it anyway, in case someone else reads it who is not familiar with it. Yes, he was one of the tempters, which would have fit with my comment. Well put.

    But, as in the original book, it is not straightforward, sometimes, what leads to salvation and what leads to damnation. There, as in the culture war, many who seem to have good intentions and proclaim themselves to be on the side of virtue end up doing reprehensible things. The road to hell is paved with good intentions. Hypocrisy, though, is a sure path that strays.

    Glubose has this old woman well in hand. She is a positive terror to hostesses and servants. She is always turning from what has been offered her to say with a demure little sigh and a smile “Oh please, please . .. all want is a cup of tea, weak but not too weak, and the teeniest weeniest bit of really crisp toast”. You see? Because what she wants is smaller and less costly than what has been set before her, she never recognises as gluttony her determination to get what she wants, however troublesome it may be to others. At the very moment of indulging her appetite she believes that she is practising temperance. In a crowded restaurant she gives a little scream at the plate which some overworked waitress has set before her and says, “Oh, that’s far, far too much! Take it away and bring me about a quarter of it”. If challenged, she would say she was doing this to avoid waste ; in reality she does it because the particular shade of delicacy to which we have enslaved her is offended by the sight of more food than she happens to want.

    We often try to present ourselves in ways that seem virtuous, for the sake of signaling virtue alone. We avoid doing what is truly virtuous, ethical, and moral as soon as it becomes inconvenient.

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    I can see your argument about principles of true free speech being something we need to not betray. It's just difficult not to read it as "this comment is an example of how the devil tricks in into believing sinning is virtuous" with that username!

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    True, I can see that.

    [–]BannedChicken 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    don't delete your reddit account, edit the comments and then abandon the account

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    But the few things I said that didn't get censored or deleted I would like to stay up. Maybe it is going to sway a few people at least. I'm not going to delete my accounts and they can incur whatever storage costs they have by continuing to host my content ad infinitum. Whatever comments I had made there are more likely to drive people away from Reddit, not get them new users.

    [–]gendercritical_throw 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    If you guys want to actual do something about these fuckers, here's a petition to sign: http://chng.it/GJqmjYMZ7B

    [–]TruthTeller 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I left reddit not so much because of the banning, but the way any deviation from the leftist narrative was not allowed within the subs. My huge issue was with the Louisville subreddit, which had zero tolerance for any deviation from the killer-cops, BLM-Angels narrative. (In a way I guess the ban is related to that)

    [–]Honestanonymous 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Hello, let's make saidit crush reddit to death.