If any man's money can be taken by a so-called government without his own personal consent, all his other rights are taken with it; for with his money the government can and will hire soldiers to stand over him compel him to submit to its arbitrary will and kill him if he resists. - Lysander Spooner

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[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (24 children)

You do, actually. To assume otherwise is an Anarchist fantasy.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (23 children)

Hey, I gave you a funny because you have no idea what the future holds. Very cute to call the future an Anarchist fantasy.

edit: removed a joke

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (22 children)

Anarchism always fails; it is no better than Communism. The left and the right seek only to destroy the Nation, our way of life, and all that we hold dear — they seek nothing less than the total annihilation of America!

That is your true goal: open borders, free trade, and the destruction of America. Anarchism is an attack against our very identity — the riots are not a minor nuisance, but rather an existential threat endangering our very right to exist!

Should the Anarchists succeed: America will die.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (21 children)

You are bizarre. A transgender talking about the destruction of America, as if he wasn't a part of it. Bizarre.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (20 children)

Ah, yes, the Libertarian, when faced with an argument he cannot counter, resorts to mere character attacks. You're wrong and you know it.

This is always the case, because Libertarians are of such low intellectual capacity, and lack any level of maturity, that they are incapable of formulating any argument not based upon prejudice. Your parents did a horrible job; the only reason Libertarianism even exists is because parents don't parent anymore.

In accordance with the Pyramid of Debate: I shall ignore further replies.

[–]Bowiebow 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (16 children)

Could you explain how libertarianism is due to poor parenting?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (15 children)

It's based in the argument that all authority is inherently bad, and that every hierarchy is basically Communism. Parents don't teach their children to accept authority, so they end up being so rebellious that they think anyone who tells them what to do is basically Hitler or Stalin.

[–]Akali 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

Actually that's not true. Most libertarian agree the gouvernment is needed for currency Minting, border security, roads maintenance, a highly basic justice system and prison. Those who claim there should be no such thing as a gouvernment at all are usually called Anarchist or Anarcho-capitalist.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Ancap is a form of Libertarianism, in the same way Ancom is a form of Communism, and it seems to be the form most people in this post adhere to. They have the same excuse for their anti-governmentalism, although some take it much, much further than others — like literally arguing against roads. And this applies to both the far-right and the far-left, which are basically the same thing.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 5 fun -  (3 children)

You have no idea what a moderate is, because you are a transgender, therefore, an extremist.

[–]Bowiebow 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I think it's the aguement that no one can make better decisions about your life than you not that all authority is inherently bad

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

That's your justification for why authority is bad, not a separate argument all-together.

[–]Bowiebow 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Do you not agree with what I've just said? Why would you want someone you've never met having an influence on your life?

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    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Government protecting property rights is a base libertarian belief.

    That doesn't create government authority, they're just doing what rich people tell them to do.

    Many libertarians believe in using market forces to improve mankind, and the free market is inherently hierarchical.

    Which is why Libertarianism is contradictory.

    What? Do you practice Retardism?

    No, I'm not a Libertarian; I'm a Corporatist.

    There are people all over the spectrum who use simple fallacious comparisons like this.

    Yes; I never said it was exclusive to the right.

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    I am glad. I am going to block you, mostly because you are transgender.

    My parents are hardcore republicans. You are bungled, sir.

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      [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      It is, yes, however transgenderism has less to do with sexual activity (that would be homosexuality), and more to do with gender. There are transgender individuals, such as myself, who abstain from sex — meanwhile there are straight, cisgender people who indulge in sexual vices such as prostitution, pedophilia, and strange fetishes. Furthermore, modesty seems to be a problem among those of all sexualities and gender identities.