"Our politics must be working-class politics. The workers' party must never be the tagtail of any bourgeois party; it must be independent and have its goal and its own policy" - Karl Marx

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[–]tomatosplat 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

Yup. Especially the part where all forms of Marxism fail every time.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Then why is the USA becoming more communist every day?

[–]Druullus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

what does that got to do with failure?

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Capitalism has failed every 4-7 years with a crash, depression, recession, or whatever you want to call it. From the Dot Bomb of 2000 to 2008 was extra long and extra harsh with NOTHING fixed - as was the 2008 to 2020 repeating the same shit but blaming it on the COVID-1984 scamdemic.

Communism and capitalism are essentially the same things. Totalitarianism and inverted-totalitarianism. Both are fucked up and evil.

[–]Druullus 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

We don't have capitalism, we have collectivism/corporatism.

[–]Markimus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

How so? The working class are continually getting poorer.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Both capitalism and communism screw the working class rigged in favour of the ruling class.

Marx talked about taking back the means of production, but to give it over to the ruling class, oligarchs, government, corporations etc. is to screw the little guy.

Worker directed enterprises, aka cooperatives, are the ONLY solution that I know of to put the power back in the hands of the workers.

[–]Markimus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Agreed, an economic third position (corporatism, syndicalism, distributism) is the only ethical economic system.

We need guilds for small businesses and corporations/syndicates to organise all the large ones and that give the workers representation so they can negotiate profit sharing and working conditions. With guilds and syndicates we can prevent monopolisation, protect real competition and markets whilst eliminating exploitation, everyone's happy except the bankers and monopolists.