Steve Kirsch testifies: “We Can’t Find an Autistic Kid Who Was Unvaccinated”. “The Amish are a perfect example of a large group of people who are largely unvaccinated,” “You won’t find kids with ADD, autoimmune disease, with epilepsy. You just don’t find any of these chronic diseases in the Amish.”

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[–]TaseAFeminist4Jesus 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

BuT mUh sEttLeD sCiencE mUh aLex JoneS muh SnOpEs

[–]hfxB0oyAPirate Party 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (8 children)

Vaccination hypotheses side, if this is true it is also reasonable to ask what other features of "modern living" that the Amish eschew might contribute to these conditions.

[–]Rah 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Healthier diets, more active lifestyles, domestic teaching and schools at later age in some cases, no exposure to modern medicine.... these all add up, no doubt.

[–]tpihkal 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Honestly, this is not the vaccine argument they'd like it to be. In science, you change one variable and measure the effects but this is too many variable to even begin to measure.

[–]jet199 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

A big risk factor for autism is having an older father.

The Amish marry and have their kids young.

[–]chadwickofwv 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

And continue having kids. Your argument is invalid.

[–]jet199 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Like most couples the majority also stop having sex after a couple of kids.

[–]hfxB0oyAPirate Party 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Makes sense. Better gametes. The most vaccinated places in the world are also the ones that delay parenthood typically.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Such as not exiling anyone with any kind of affliction.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's the vaccines. The evidence is overwhelming.

Vaccine injuries/side effects are not allowed to be discussed, because stopping this single agenda item halts many of their goals.

Injections have been planned for decades for what we're living through. The BIG AGENDA.

Bertrand Russell admitted it openly:

Diet, injections, and injunctions will combine, from a very early age, to produce the sort of character and the sort of beliefs that the authorities consider desirable, and any serious criticism of the powers that be will become psychologically impossible.

https://libquotes.com/bertrand-russell/quote/lbc5l9e

[–]Alphix 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I've been saying this for a couple decades. Thank you Mr. Kirsch.

Also, by the way, viruses DO. NOT. EXIST.

I know, it'll take even the cutting edge conspiracy analysts 20 years to catch up with that one too... Sigh.

[–]catfishrising 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Since the Amish are relatively isolated, and such conditions can have a genetic cause, maybe they just have good genes.

[–]binaryblob 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Their environment is certainly better.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Shit if vaxxing causes the Tism then we need to have some vaxxing parties! Libertarians and Nazis are like 87.6% autists.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

87.6%? That's awfully specific.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You're literally retarded if you think I was making a precise statistical claim. Blocked on principle.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If I thought that why would I ask about it?

[–]passionflounderIndependent 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I imagine the diet may have a bit more to do with all these conditions.

Edit- SOME of these conditions, not all.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

How can dieting prevent a condition that's not acquired and you have to be born with? I'm annoyed at this trend where everyone thinks "dieting" is the magic pill for everything. There's almost never one magic solution to all your problems.

[–]passionflounderIndependent 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Kirsch cites other conditions- “You won’t find kids with ADD, autoimmune disease..."; "You just don’t find any of these chronic diseases in the Amish.” Those I believe to be diet related. Look at the ingredients lists on so much available on supermarket shelves and research foods in the U.S. that are banned in other countries.

Special attention should be paid to preservative, dye and sugar-laden breakfast cereals marketed to children. We are poisoning them.

[–]jet199 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You can get autism from brain injury as well.

Proper autism that is, not just being a weirdo no one likes.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Still, how is dieting supposed to help with that?

[–]bucetao6969 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah because the kids that weren't vaccinated just died lol

[–]chadwickofwv 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I see you like talking out of your ass.

[–]Mato 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

But the Amish still has a problem with inbreeding and its health consequences.

[–]Rah 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

So you are telling me its healthier to have kids with a cousin than follow the CDC guidelines on vax?

[–]send_nasty_stuff 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Source? My understanding is you have to have very small numbers for that to be a problem. Like less than 300 people or breeding within the immediate family like many islamists have done for centuries. There are approximately 350k amish in the united states and they do not allow incest.

[–]SoCo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Many Amish communities got the Covid vax. The Amish typically run rather sizable corporate businesses with their communities. Lock-downs, deaths in their communities, and fear pushed many whole Amish communities to get vaccinated, largely to keep their businesses going. Do they feel like they compromised their values in retrospect?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The corporate business part isn't a problem. Joint stock corporations existed before the managerial state or modern technology.

[–]LarrySwinger2Voluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

TIL vaccines are the cause of panda pants.

[–]Wanderingthehalls 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Just on the ADD. Is that even real? And even if it really is a particular type of personality type does that really make it a disease? I'd have zero problem getting an ADHD diagnosis for my incredibly active, daydreamer son if I wanted. If I did, I could get a range of financial benefits and he would get special dispensations at school that would lead to him eventually getting easier university admission. He could get extra financial benefits through his adulthood.

I don't do it because there is nothing wrong with him and I've seen too many people let their diagnosis ruin their lives. It becomes an excuse for not doing basic shit or trying hard things. I suspect that the Amish probably have a similar attitude toward calling personality types illnesses.