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[–]Oyveygoyim[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (109 children)

Prove it. Prove to me that 6 million Jews were gassed and murdered. Show me physical evidence of just 1 jew being gassed.

[–]weavilsatemyface 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (108 children)

Prove to me that 6 million Jews were gassed and murdered.

Not all of the 6 million Jews killed were gassed. But you know that.

Around 2.1 million Jews were gassed, plus a smaller number of non-Jews (mostly Poles), plus another 200-300 thousand German, Austrian, Polish and Czech "involuntary euthanasia" killings.

What sort of evidence would you accept?

[–]Oyveygoyim[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (107 children)

Physical evidence that proves jews were gassed.

[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (106 children)

What sort of physical evidence? Aside from the photos, the cyanide residues, the piles of ashes and human bone fragments, the empty Zyklon-B canisters?

Presumably the confessions from head Nazis, camp guards and doctors mean nothing to you.

[–]Oyveygoyim[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (105 children)

The type that proves 1 jew was gassed. Show me the jew and the physical evidence that proves said jew died from gas. This shouldn't be difficult for you. In fact you should've provided physical evidence instead of what did. But there's a reason for that, we both know why yet you refuse to admit the lie

[–]weavilsatemyface 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (101 children)

physical evidence that proves said jew died from gas.

Ah, so you're asking for evidence you know the Nazis destroyed. This proves you are not arguing in good faith. What's so special about physical evidence, do you think that it couldn't be faked too? According to you:

  • THE JOOS faked the tens of thousands of documents documenting the Nazi extermination campaign;
  • THE JOOS faked the hundreds of eyewitness accounts by people of many nationalities and religions;
  • THE JOOS faked the testimony of the survivors and prison guards and high-ranking SS officers;
  • and somehow prevented them from recanting their testimony during the trial, or even decades later;
  • THE JOOS faked the demographic data showing the disappearance of millions of Jews across Europe.

If THE JOOS are so powerful, why do you pretend that they couldn't have faked a few gas chambers or Hitler's signature on an order to kill all the Jews?

The truth is, you know that the Jews aren't that powerful now, and they certainly weren't that powerful in 1945. They couldn't have faked something of the scale of the Holocaust even if they wanted to. In the fog of war, historians have done a good job of investigating the crimes of the Nazis and proving them beyond reasonable doubt.

And they are capable of revising their conclusions.

Exaggerated claims from survivors about "lampshades made with human skin" have been treated skeptically by historians. The most sensational and macabre claims have been rejected unless there is excellent evidence for them, e.g. claims that camp guards threw living prisoners into the crematoriums is generally considered to be a myth. (It might have happened once or twice as particularly awful punishment, but not proven, and certainly it didn't happen on a large scale.)

[–]Oyveygoyim[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (100 children)

Ah so they destroyed all the evidence yet let millions survive the supposed "death camps"....

Still not figuring it out, huh?

[–]jacques1102 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (62 children)

I noticed you didn't even attempt to refute any of his points in either comment.It's literally pointless to try and change your mind.You could literally be put into a time machine and sent back to 1940 and seeing millions die and you'll claim"Clearly the person who invented this time machine was a jew who is showing an alternate timeline where jews died".

[–]Oyveygoyim[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (61 children)

Because I've done it before. For instance he talked about the bodies turned into ash and allegedly buried at Treblinka. Underground radar experts have went to Treblinka and using their radar said there's no way that happened. They even said you can dig it up and you won't find shit. They said as deep as 30 meters underground hasn't been tampered with for hundreds of years.

I'm not going to go through and debunk every point he made because he'll continue to believe the bullshit narrative regardless. Just like you. You seem very passionately against all the lgbt garbage. Yet despite seeing Mountains of evidence pointing to the jews you don't want to believe that all this lgbt garbage is being funded and forced upon everyone by jews.

I'm not going to attempt to brainwash you with the truth like the jews have done to you with lies for your entire lives. You're big boys and you can figure it out if that's what you choose.

[–]jacques1102 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (60 children)

What underground rader experts?Any doubts about the existence of mass graves at the Treblinka death camp in Poland are being laid to rest by the first survey of the site using tools that see below the ground, writes forensic archaeologist Caroline Sturdy Colls.(non jew) https://www.livescience.com/44443-treblinka-archaeological-excavation.html The first-ever archaeological excavations at the Nazi death camp Treblinka have revealed new mass graves, as well as the first physical evidence that this camp held gas chambers, where thousands of Jews died.They've literally found new evidence and yet here you are using outdated evidence.Lastly so because i'm against lgbt stuff(mostly TQ plus)that means i should be a holocaust denier?All you do is point to the one jewish person to prove that's there's some kinda of conspiracy.Are there jews who support gays or trans people?Sure!But then go full nutjob and claim that it's all part of a jewish plot to rule the world is off the charts.You accuse me of being brainwashed and yet you get brainwashed by nazi propaganda and not see the real reason the world's the way it is, and its not because of some secret world government conspiracy.

[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (36 children)

No, they tried to destroy all the evidence, but failed. And they didn't "let" millions survive, they failed to kill them all.

The Nazis weren't superhuman god-like beings. They were people, often working at cross-purposes or with agendas of their own, struggling with the logistics of mass murder in the middle of a war where by 1943 they were being defeated.

[–]Oyveygoyim[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (35 children)

They failed to kill them? Like these "holocaust survivors"?

https://www.bitchute.com/video/VJ0jeyN1jdBs/

Too much soccer, beer, whore houses, swimming pools and delivering over 2,000 jewish babies must've gotten in the way of their "genocide". Why would they do all these things for jews when they were just killing them all?

Answer: because they weren't killing them all. If Germany wanted to kill all the jews in Europe then that's exactly what they would've done.

But you choose to believe people like this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herman_Rosenblat

[–]jacques1102 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Those places were used for the guards but let me ask you this.Let's say what you said is correct and hitler gave the jews all of this, why do you worship hitler for giving people who you claim to be"satanic monsters who want to genocide the white race and rule the world"a life of luxury?Hitler"Yes i know you jews destroyed germany, and want to exterminate all white people to conquerer the world.So instead of treating you monsters like shit, here's a camp where you get treated better than the german people.Have fun!"Like do you not see how that makes it sound like jews weren't actually a big threat and the monsters hitler and the nazis made them out to be?

[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (27 children)

They failed to kill them? Like these "holocaust survivors"?

Well obviously if they are still alive to tell their stories, then yes, they are Holocaust survivors who the Nazis failed to kill. Or did you think they were zombies risen from the grave? 🙄

For somebody with such strong opinions about the Holocaust, you sure as hell don't know very much about it.

The Nazi party was in power from 1933 to 1945. That's twelve years in case you can't count. Things can and did change a lot in 12 years, and conditions varied hugely over that time. The Nazis built literally thousands of concentration and labour camps which varied greatly in their conditions depending on the purpose of the camp, who was in charge, and who the prisoners were.

  • Some camps, intended for citizens of foreign powers that Germany did not want to offend, had relatively good living conditions.
  • Theresienstadt was designed as a "model village" to deceive the Swiss Red Cross that prisoners in the concentration camps were being treated well.
  • Camps with only Jews or Slavs were usually harsher than those with mixed populations.
  • Camps designed for long-term imprisonment sometimes gave prisoners little luxuries to encourage compliant behaviour.
  • Extermination camps did not since few people lived more than a few hours.
  • There were only five extermination camps, where almost all the prisoners were murdered immediately on arrival, and they only ran for 18 months or so before the Nazis, worried that they were going to lose the war, shut them down and attempted to destroy the evidence.
  • Most labour camps were intended to work the slave labour to death with hard physical labour on starvation rations, but a few had lighter duties and more survivors.
  • Auschwitz was a complex of at least 40 individual camps, which varied greatly in their conditions.

The original concentration camp at Auschwitz was a former Polish army barracks consisted of permanent brick buildings. It held about 7000 prisoners. The extermination camp built at Auschwitz-Birkenau was very different. About a million prisoners went to Auschwitz-Birkenau and were murdered almost the moment they arrived. The third major camp at Auschwitz was the Monowitz labour camp, and it was used for slave labour for IG Farben. In order to increase productivity (very low due to the starvation rations) the camp set up a brothel that good workers could visit, and paid the workers a pittance that they could use to buy luxuries like cigarettes. The other smaller subcamps ranged in size from Kattowitz, which was run by the Gestapo and held ten prisoners, to Neu-Dachs which held about 3,500 prisoners.

In general, camps in occupied Poland were harsher than those in Germany. Conditions before the war started were generally not as harsh as during the war. Camps run by true-believer Nazi anti-Semites were much worse than those run by moderate commandants.

But you choose to believe people like this [Herman Rosenblat]

Why do you say that? Have I ever quoted Rosenblat? Nothing I have said relates to Rosenblat's fiction. He wrote a fictional romance set in a concentration camp and claimed that it was autobiographical. A foolish and stupid lie, but it wasn't Denialists who discovered the lie.

Quote: "Jewish professor Deborah Lipstadt had already denounced the story in her personal blog in December 2007. Other Holocaust survivors like Peter Kubicek also denounced the implausibility of the story. Jewish-American blogger Danny Bloom started emailing several historians for help, one of them being Holocaust historian Kenneth Waltzer."

[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

physical evidence

As you well know, the Nazis went to a lot of trouble to hide the existence of the extermination camps and destroy the evidence of mass murder. And they did a very good job of it. Germany efficiency.

But not perfect. Some physical evidence survived, enough to confirm the eye-witness accounts, the confessions, the documentary evidence and the indirect evidence. A handful of examples of hard physical evidence:

  • The land around Treblinka has many large burial pits. The soil contains recognisable fragments of human bone in such large quantities that they can only have come from a mass murder site, and the amount of ash is great enough to have changed the chemistry of the soil.
  • The brick foundations of the gas chambers have been found, confirming eyewitness accounts of the Star Of David design on the tiles.
  • In Auschwitz, where the gas chambers survived, there is detectable cyanide residue on the walls. The extermination chambers and the delousing chambers show distinctly different residues, matching what we expect from chemistry and eye witness testimony.
  • Thousands of pounds of human hair cut off the victims, some of it taken after gassing and showing traces of cyanide and Zyklon-B.
  • In Dachau, five gas chambers were constructed. Four where quite clearly meant for disinfection purposes. The fifth, however, was clearly constructed as an extermination chamber, complete with fake shower heads. Historians are divided on whether the fifth chamber had been used, the evidence is inconclusive. The case for gassings in Dachau itself is "Not Proven". But its mere existence proves that the Nazis had custom-built gas chambers for the express purpose of homicide.
  • The are traces of cyanide found in Hartheim Castle in Linz, where three thousand prisoners were sent and executed. Prussic acid has been found on metal objects taken from the victims.

Add to this physical evidence thousands of documents written by the Nazis, the eyewitness accounts of survivors (both Jews and non-Jews), the confessions of camp guards, SS and Einsatzgruppen, blueprints and requisition orders, train timetables and photographs, and the case is proven beyond reasonable doubt.

One piece of evidence which I find especially powerful is the five-hundred-and-sixty-four-page book called “Auschwitz: Technique and Operation of the Gas Chambers” by Jean-Claude Pressac. Pressac began his investigation into the gas chambers convinced that they were a fraud, but after eight years of painstaking, detailed study of the source materials, changed his mind. Among the evidence he found was the presence of 20 shower-heads in the inventory for Birkenau's Crematorium II, but no water pipes leading to the shower-heads.

[–]Oyveygoyim[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Books and words yet no physical evidence proving 1 jew was gassed. It's a miracle!

[–]weavilsatemyface 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Me: here's physical evidence.

You: still no physical evidence!

One of us is not arguing in good faith.