Fascism Question: Other than A James Gregor, who else are other fascism experts?

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[–]8thmonitor[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Thank you so much for the great clarifications.

I don't know about Fascifist. What views is he incorrect about?

I have another fascism question. I asked it before, but I got no response on this sub. Were Imperial Japan and Shōwa Statism fascist? Was there any Japanese fascism? https://saidit.net/s/debatealtright/comments/b4kj/fascism_question_were_imperial_japan_and_sh%C5%8Dwa/

Similarly, is Juche Korean fascism?

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I don't know about Fascifist. What views is he incorrect about?

It's not about being wrong it's more about his general way of being lol. He has like 20 telegram pages that are like 'Based (insert third world socialist leader)' and he'll like repost all of the other ones across all of them. Then he'll sperg out on some rants on one of them about how he hates the British Empire or some shit and repost that on all the accounts too. I found some of the stuff he was running to be quite useful as I am interested in third worldist kinda stuff a la the SS post-ww2, Yockey etc but this guy is too like personally invested emotionally or whatever in stuff and it makes the stuff he posts that aren't just 1:1 copy paste quotes be negatively affected by his own biases/feelings.

Imperial Japan and Shōwa Statism fascist?

I didn't answer this because I don't know. I don't think they were, I think that guy who got killed with the katana in the famous picture was a socialist who was similar to fascism but I don't think they had a proper fascist movement. Borzoi has made podcasts about Korea and Japan that you'd probably be interested in.

Similarly, is Juche Korean fascism?

I have read a couple things produced by the DPRK about 'the real meaning of nationalism' or something like that, it sounds like Juche is fascist/nazbol adjacent at least. Like how most 3rd world socialist states had more in common with fascism than internationalist marxism. I don't know enough about their policies and such to say if they have a good model or not though.

[–]8thmonitor[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Good to know. I will check out Borzoi's podcasts on Korea and Japan.

I was especially curious about North Korea because if North Korea is fascist, wouldn't that mean that North Korea is the fascist state with the longest existence? It existed since 1948.

What would most fascists consider as the fascist state with the longest existence? I was thinking Fascist Italy with 21 years (1922-1943). But Ba'athist Iraq went from 1968 to 2003. I think Ahmed Hassan al-Bakr was also a fascist like Saddam Hussein.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I was especially curious about North Korea because if North Korea is fascist, wouldn't that mean that North Korea is the fascist state with the longest existence? It existed since 1948. What would most fascists consider as the fascist state with the longest existence? I was thinking Fascist Italy with 21 years (1922-1943). But Ba'athist Iraq went from 1968 to 2003. I think Ahmed Hassan al-Bakr was also a fascist like Saddam Hussein.

Yeah if they are, I don't think most guys really care though because it's irrelevant to us as Europeans and Americans. From the perspective of fascists in the west all they care about is the liberation of their own countries, other states are really only interesting insofar as they can teach us about tactics, strategy etc to achieve power. I only really care about Germany and Italy because they were European, even if NK is fascist it doesn't matter to us because what can be learned from them anyway? North Korea was founded because the Soviet Union backed Kim Il Sung not because of his own organising and such. People who have some aspiration to organise politically ought to just be studying Germany and Italy because they were grassroots and led populist mass revolutions.

[–]8thmonitor[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well said. I have an unrelated fascist question: Did Mosley reject JQ? I know some fascists rejected JQ.

I found a website called https://www.oswaldmosley.com/. Is it legit? Did Mosley write these answers? The website is run by The Friends of Oswald Mosley. I think they are using his writings from past books and other material. This answer talks about how Mosley is proudly against antisemitism. https://www.oswaldmosley.com/question-what-is-your-attitude-to-the-jews/

I am not an anti-Semite.

Huh? How could he not believe in it with his experience with Mussolini and Hitler?