What are your thoughts on this attack on an asylum seekers camp in Ireland?

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[–]oligarchracy 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

I think it's getting close to being time to find a new home. Almost every post here is some cringe concern troll or shill post from radicalcentrist, salos/nasser, blork3d, some name that acts like an AIbot called 8thmonitor etc. It's just time to move on I think, the mod behavior here really cant be explained innocently. There is something really strange going on with this sub. Most of the mods are probably genuine, but are mods in name only, but I don't trust a couple of the more active ones. This sub just seems totally compromised.

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    [–]oligarchracy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    The problem with the moderation in this sub is that 1) the sub is slow with few users so no one is willing to invest too much time or effort into modwork

    It probably takes how long to delete a post or ban an obvious troll, a minute? These posts stay up indefinitely and the trolls stick around for years.

    2) the mods are being actively threatened by Magnora7 and can't ban people for stuff like concern trolling anymore.

    According to who? Like 1 or 2 years ago when this site was undergoing constant DDOS attacks by mentally ill Jews who continually harassed and threatened Magnora, he did take action on a fascism sub that banned obvious Jew trolls, who went whining to him, but Magnora has been MIA for over a year now, and even in those instances, the trolls in question were somewhat arbitrarily banned right off the bat with zero warning.

    Our trolls have been warned over and over again, given every opportunity to stop and just post honestly, clearly break the rules of the sub, and you can find plenty of examples of people being banned in the front page subs or from the site for far less. U also had some people banned here for less and Magnora never said anything. Salos's primary alt, salos6000 was banned and magnora never said anything

    And if what you say is true and you can't ban trolls like salos/nasser, then what good is the sub or the site anyway? If you are completely powerless to prevent it from being overtaken by bad faith trolls, who then use the sub for intelligence gathering and manipulation, then the sub does more harm than good and it wouldn't exactly be a bad thing if it was shut down and moved elsewhere.

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      [–]oligarchracy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      The mods have banned other users simply for posting stupid shit, even though the posters weren't misrepresenting themselves, and nothing came of it. They(or more likely one or two of them) usually ban shit from mentally ill Jews that make other Jews look stupid. Wasnt that Jaques dude that was obsessed with the holocaust recently banned? Salos himself was banned under other alts and saidit admin were fine with it, and Salos has posted way more stupid concern troll bullshit under his nasser alt than he ever did as salos6000. So I'm not buying that excuse. Virtually every post here now for the past several months is a concern troll post. This sub has become a total joke. I see way more based shit on the actual front page of saidit than I ever do here, where its just jew shills responding to each other's posts(or posts they made under a different alt).

      [–]Nasser[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      How am I a troll? You post fuck all on this sub and then bitch about and label anyone who does a troll.

      [–]Nasser[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

      What exactly do you want this sub to be? What am I (still not salos) or radical centrist or 8thmonitor doing wrong exactly? Do you want a sub that is just a nice little echo chamber/circlejerk? There are plenty sites you can go to for that.

      [–]oligarchracy 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

      What exactly do you want this sub to be? What am I (still not salos) or radical centrist or 8thmonitor doing wrong exactly?

      Intelligence gathering, manipulation, research, monitoring(gotta wonder what 7thmonitor, 6thmonitor etc were used for, is this some AI monitoring version 8.0?).

      We all want to have free debate and opposing viewpoints, but we know for a fact the other side does not, so you have to wonder what value this sub currently still has if all it serves as is an intelligence gathering and fishing expedition for the current ruling propaganda/censorship regime, even if some of the bad actors really are just mentally ill or eccentric freelancers(which I increasingly doubt).

      [–]8thmonitor 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      7thmonitor, 6thmonitor etc were used for, is this some AI monitoring version 8.0?).

      Lol. My username is 8thmonitor because my street is literally named 8th. I just said monitor because I just notice many problems in my street. Violent and suspicious nonwhites, trash everywhere, graffiti, latinos that cannot speak English, kids vaping all day, adults smoking and drinking, homeless, people begging for money, and more.
      Nothing to do with AI. 7th and 6thmonitor do not exist.

      No surprise that I am a complete loner. I go on saidit just to have some social interaction.

      [–]oligarchracy 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      My username is 8thmonitor because my street is literally named 8th.

      If this was true, I doubt you would openly say it in a sub that is itself obviously monitored. I was semi joking about the AI thing, but a look at your post history doesn't seem genuine to me. Looks like you are intelligence gathering.

      [–]8thmonitor 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      There are so many addresses named 8th. It is not unique.

      You think AI is used in writing my comments and posts? You can try the AI test. I am not AI.

      You think I am gathering intelligence on saidit users when I ask if people are atheists or how America would look like without blacks or school integration effect on whites? I am not. I already answered your questions and explained myself. If you don't believe me, I cannot help you.

      [–]Nasser[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      Maybe you're just paranoid.

      [–]oligarchracy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Yeah, well being high trust has been our undoing, so always giving people the benefit of the doubt when they haven't earned it isn't a good policy in the times we find ourselves in.