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[–]saiditkang 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Under the same rules that apply to the holocaust, anyone who even suggests the holodomor death toll was less than 11 million(the official UN number) would be labeled a "denier", but we all know the same rules dont apply. I also don't see what benefit Ukrainians have received from what you claim is a hoax. No one was ever tried for any crimes or genocides related to the Holodomor, not even the main perpertrator, Lazar Kaganovitch, who lived a peaceful retirement into old age, long after his crimes were memory holed. There are no movies, no museums, no reperations were ever given to "survivors" or families of victims(in many cases entire extended families were wiped out). I had never even heard of the holodomor until a few years ago, it wasn't taught in school, and even to this day couldn't name a single victim. They were just erased from history. The purpose of a hoax is to derive some kind of benefits. Ukrainians just got another Jewish leader that gets them killed en masse.

In regards to "the holocaust", I don't doubt large numbers of Jews died during ww2, along with 70 million other people. I also don't doubt many of them were killed intentionally, some of them while in captivity. Those deaths were horrible, and it was right to hold those responsible accountable, but it shouldn't be a contest over who suffered most. Dead is dead, and if you think dead German or Japanese civilians "had it coming" that's a slippery slope and I would question your moral compass.