If we shouldn't trust the mainstream narrative because it's jewish propaganda, why should one trust sources that have a nazi bias?

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[–]jacques1102[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The Russian Empire brutally repressed its national and religious minorities (with a handful of exceptions that were too useful to stomp on) during the second half of the 19th century.

Those minorities then had very good reasons to become republican, communist, or ethnic nationalist revolutionaries.

They also stomped on republican and socialist movements generally irrespective of ethnicity or religion. The later Romanov Tsars were all-in on the absolute rule of the monarchy and nobility train, not least because of the influence of the Baltic German court cliques who wielded outsized influence in the imperial political and military establishment- and turned said influence towards preserving the system that got them said outsized influence.

Basically, pretty much everyone outside it and even some of the nobility agreed by 1917 that the Tsar had to go and the absolute rule of the Romanovs had to end. If you wanted a Russian Republic, a dictatorship of the proletariat, anything in between, or simply for your people to not be treated like shit and forcibly 'Russianized', you were going to support the end of Tsar Nicholas' rule.

And of course, the Bolsheviks kinda institutionalized a rejection of religion as a general thing after toppling the Kerensky government unless it became expedient to kinda-sorta-but-not-really tolerate it (see: Stalin suddenly realizing the Russian Orthodox church could be politically useful when the Nazis invaded).

After Lenin- who wanted all religions ended- came Stalin, who was explicitly and unequivocally an antisemite despite claiming to despise all religions equally.

Antisemitism in the Soviet period was also very prevalent during the Brezhnev years.

This is all pretty exhaustively documented. We have the receipts. It wasn't until 1981 that a Soviet leader- Brezhnev himself- was even willing to openly condemn institutionalized antisemitism in the USSR, and even then it was because the Soviet leadership had finally realized that altering the way they did things generally was necessary. The Soviet Union wasn't going to survive without some degree of reform. Reducing the amount of outrageous discrimination against Jews was part of a much larger picture.

[–]EuropeanAwakening14 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

None of that changes the fact of massive Jewish over representation in the Russian Revolution. Nice try, though.

[–]jacques1102[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Where is the source for that?Literally every time this is bought up, it's always lenin and trotsky(Who got exiled by stalin.A non jew)or that other guy.Literally how would anyone know the ethnicity of anyone if jews would of hid it?Btw none of this changes the fact that the tsar destroyed his country and the people had a reason to revolt.