Historic Election in Sweden and Europe today 11/9

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[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

SD are not white nationalists, they're zio-clowns.

Anyways, according to the exit polls they got BTFO, Social Democrats are at 30% and Sweden Democrats are at 21%.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Why do they keep voting for the social democrats?

[–]Wrangel 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Because half the population has their entire life based around the party. Lots of people live off government handouts in Sweden, we have a massive welfare class. We also have a giant public sector full of people entirely dependent on jobs programs. There are huge numbers of people with useless degrees doing useless things who could only get a job in the public sector. The state provides these people with rent controlled apartments and an entire lifestyle.

There are tons of single mothers with a degree in sociology who work for the city council and who need daycare, rent controlled apartments, state provided activities for their children and who work with managing the socialdemocratic project. Vote right and their entire life would collapse. We have tens of thousands of journalists and culture workers who live off the state and who recieve all sorts of state subsidies on top of that. They would be delivering pizzas and living in a friend's sofa alternatively have to go back to school and learn a trade if the right got their way.

These people will defend the socialdemocrats with great vigour and enthusiasm even if we become Lebanon. It is their entire life, their existance, their identity and place in the world. The party has replaced family and religion for them.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Weren't there neoliberal reforms in Sweden from the 1980s onwards? Also, France and Belgium have bigger welfare states as a percentage of GDP.

By the way, some of Sweden's social policies are good and allows it to have a somewhat stable birth rate.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Fuck knows. There is NO WAY they aren't buying voters in some way, why in the fuck would anyone vote for them other than personal economic incentive is beyond me. They're quite literally the most unsafe country in Europe ffs.

[–]Rakean93Identitarian socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

In democracy changes happen gradually, bit they happen (as we can clearly see comparing the 50s to now). I think that gradual radicalisation is a good thing. Eventually they can form a critical mass and a cultural shift that, anyway, is actually happening.

[–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

In democracy changes happen gradually, bit they happen (as we can clearly see comparing the 50s to now)

The only real change that will happen is when liberal democracy is abolished. The whole history of liberal democracy has been changing in one direction and that direction won't change until the foundations of the current western political and economic order are overthrown.

[–]Rakean93Identitarian socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Liberal democracy is surely in decline across the world and in America/Europe too. The question is what is about about to come, and how.

[–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Well if the Right doesn't get its sh*t together and continues to align itself with conspiratard, free market worshipping, anti authority conservatives then we will likely get dictatorship of the globalists who will purchase their own military power.

[–]Rakean93Identitarian socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, that's a very real possibility.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

What can you see from the 50s to now? Blacks got their rights within a decade, crackdown on racism lasted like 5 years, every politician shifted gears towards gay marriage in the span of 8 years, etc., etc., that is not gradual, that is all within single person's lifespan, it's just that people have shit memory.

Not to mention that here in Croatia it is the conservative party which has been in charge for 24 years (out of 32 years of existence) and they support the gay shit and immigration without any pressure from the left and with the pressure from the overwhelming majority of the people (and with the pressure of EU of course).

Conservatives are scoundrels and traitors who only care about money, the only gradual change that can happen is the one to the left when they're in charge (and no, I don't mean left in economic sense).

[–]Rakean93Identitarian socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't know what is going on in Croatia - however in most of Europe there is s clear shift toward what we could call cultural right. This won't produce immediate effects. What will happen is that new set of ideas will enter the public discourse, allowing the production of a different kind of culture, which in return will be able to identify the objectives for the political class. This happened in the west from the 50s to until now, with gay marriage only becoming a thing in the late 2010s.