Poll: "Men with college degrees have now shifted 26 points in favor of the GOP"

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[–]VraiBleuScots Protestant, Ulster Loyalist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

In a modern, overpopulated society, mass ‘indoctrination’ is necessary. The fact is that the vast majority of people (even in relatively high IQ nations) lack the critical thinking skills to weigh different viewpoints and come to their own conclusions. So If you aren’t willing to indoctrinate kids with your own ideals, then our enemies surely will.

The same goes for other modern institutions & technologies. Reactionary thinking (I.e turning the clock backwards) is futile but we can change who controls the levers of power. Mass education & propaganda is a tool, morally neutral in itself. But It’s how it’s used that counts… The fascists of the mid 20th century understood this well & were successful even in the short timeframe they had to work with.

[–]Kuasocto 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Mass education & propaganda is a tool, morally neutral in itself.

I disagree, anything employed on such big populations kills the local cultures and identities and sets the stage for a massively restrictive and centralized society. You do get it right that today's societies are overpopulated tho. In my view things like mega cities with literally hundreds of thousands of people in them or more are a terrible thing (which also requires terrible things like mass indoctrination to keep some fragile peace). Giant housing units where each person or family only gets a couple of rooms enslaves those people. In my utopia (yes I'm admitting its utopian thinking) everyone has a piece of land that can actually generate some food, and have some privacy, but that is impossible with current population densities.

[–]VraiBleuScots Protestant, Ulster Loyalist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm with you, at least idealistically. My utopian world would only have a few hundred million people & would more resemble pre-industrial revolution society but you can't just turn the clock back. Technologies like television, radio & the internet are always going to be around & will inevitably be used to push the interests of those with power onto the wider public.

[–]Kuasocto 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Nice to see someone sharing my sensibilites.

Technologies like television, radio & the internet are always going to be around & will inevitably be used to push the interests of those with power onto the wider public.

That's kinda true, but also a little bit misleading. They most likely won't go away, but can be made obsolete. Like, how many people still use morse code nowadays? I have some hope in new technologies focused on decentralized or federated designs. Consider this fact: nowadays with a very small investment even a single person can start printing his own newspaper, something that is a fairly recent phenomenon. You don't need to understand the printer to be able to use it print whatever you want. Nowadays people also have the technology that lets them record, edit and transmit video files. The issue is, there is a lack of platform to reach others, with the exception of few heavily centralized sites controlled by california. So since everyone already has those damn smartphones, what needs to happen is some system that allows for sharing and finding those things easily. And maybe that even can be done on software side. Tho I'm a tech brainlet, so this is as far as my understanding goes. I do have some hope tho. The smartphones already revolutionized access and usage of the internet, and they have the potential to do something with the current centralization problem.