Hebrew Fascism

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[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Can Israel be considered fascist?

No. You could say it is nationalistic, and socialistic, but not fascist specifically. Fascism has to be against international finance. Israel is the political head directing international finance.

There could theoretically be revolutionary Israeli jews that want to get rid of usury, speculation etc in Israel, cut off contact with their international finance cousins etc but it wouldn't really make sense.

Now the question of what is the definition of fascism in your view?

Populism with varying economic systems, mostly Syndicalist/Corporatist though

Is against Marxism and Capitalism economically

Specifically opposes 'international finance' as a class, along with unproductive economic activity (usury, speculation etc)

Nationalism, this can also be pan-Civilisational/Racial too though. Like in Ba'athism it conceptualises all Arabs as one nation, whereas with nation states today they make up many nations. Similarly, some Latin American fascists are pan-Mestizo, some European fascists are pan-European etc.

Sorelian myth of palingenesis < one of the most important concepts is the New Man which is highly concerned with virtue ethics, particularly the ideal of struggle

Built on social capital and has a mass movement

Organic worldview, as opposed to Mechanistic/Materialist one, is against the perceived spiritual decadence of Marxism and Liberalism

Put into a paragraph

"The Third Position (fascism) is revolutionary nationalism rooted in an organic worldview with the unifying Sorelian myth of the New Man, and national rebirth also known a palingenesis. It is built on social capital and is a grassroots populist struggle of the people against the forces of International Finance (the ruling elite) and the spiritual decadence of Materialism (the ideologies of Liberalism and Marxism)."

Is it corporate (not to b confused with corportocracy) syndicism?

'Corporate syndicism' ???? Corporatism/Syndicalism are the names of fascist economics yes, not 'Corporate syndicism' though, I assume you just made a kind of spelling mistake or something.

[–]Jesus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

And some claim Eva and Juan Peron were fascists. They did allow many Nazis to take up residence in Argentina—Juan claiming the Nuremberg Trials were a sham—but they also were quite fond of Israel and were the forst to recognize Israel as its own nationstate. Eva was buried in the same ritual and ordination as Lenin.

[–]asterias 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Fidel Castro was said to have been influenced by Primo de Rivera and even have connections with Banderists which he had to severe when Moscow heard the rumours. That's a fascinating chapter of hidden history.

Many fascist doctrines claimed indifference to the Jewish Question (and race).