What is the most sober, accurate account of what happened in the Holocaust?

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Depends what you're interested in really, Holocaust is very broad topic if you want to dive into details. For example, if you want to study just mechanisms of gas chamber, or open air incinerations, or Sonnerkommandos, there are whole books about those topics. Carlo Mattogno, who is the most well-versed Holocaust academic, goes camp by camp and examines the details, for example.

Debating the Holocaust by Thomas Dalton is a great starting point if you're into books and if you're interested in the overall Holocaust story, and if you prefer something more beginner-friendly content I'd highly recommend this. This channel has lots of Fact Check videos on it, all of them are worth watching, but this one is the most interesting imo.

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    I believe there are many inconsistencies with the official stories, and logistics of it would be very difficult to pull. Holocaust theorists will often pull at the straws there they try to explain mere theoretical possibility of an event.

    I believe 300k jews died, mostly due to typhus epidemic that was going on, and that there was no order to industrially execute jews en masse. I said mostly because there were thousands of jews which were executed for one reason or the other (which was documented by the Germans, without any euphemisms).

    I love going into details of these camps (I'm most familiar with Auschwitz because it's the main one and the most important one), but also on some part it doesn't even matter, Holocaust matters politically rather than historically far more, since it's been used to silence free speech, political opponents, commit actual mass-scale crimes against humanity, wars, etc.

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      What I said is general consensus.

      If you want to see what a doubt is, you should look into historical holocaust numbers. For example, estimates of death count in Majdanek camp are as follows

      • Initial claim by Soviets - 2 million
      • 1944 - 1.7 million
      • Nuremberg trials - 1.5 million
      • 1975 - 1.38 million
      • 1991 - 360 thousand
      • 1992 - 235 thousand
      • 1998 revisionist claims - 42 thousand
      • 2005-present - 78 thousand

      Auschwitz also famously went from 4 million to 1.1 million.

      These are just numbers, there were many egregious claims about the methods of executions. The more you dig into it, the more ridiculous it gets. Most recent example I found was bone-crushing machine which was allegedly used for getting rid of evidence of Holocaust, yet the actual purpose of it was refining cement (but they always use these annotations and sell you complex stories when truth is simple and reasonable in actuality).