Has the Bell Curve ruined anyone elses enjoyment of life?

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[–]Antarchomachus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Sure, I get mad and frustrated with the amount of stupid people in the world. If you are smarter than average, most of the world is dumb in comparison, and that can be incredibly frustrating.

I'll grant that there are substantial IQ differences on a population level between Asians and African Americans, but I think there is more nuance to this, hear me out.

You talk about forming nice lines for the bus - this sounds like you are talking about orderly behavior. I think Asian culture emphasizes this quality more than African American culture.

If you took selected sub-populations where the Blacks were on average higher IQ than the Asians, I'd be willing to bet you would still find the Asians more orderly even with lower IQs.

There is certainly genetic influences on intelligence, but I don't think IQ or genes alone can account for all of the societal differences between races

I've known idiots and assholes, as well as decent and intelligent people from every race. There may be some correlations, but I don't like to paint in such broad strokes. What about Ashkenazi Jews? They have average IQ's of 115 (the highest of any ethnic group) Should we make them all our world leaders and allow nobody else to have a say who isnt Ashkenazi, even if theirs is say, 150?

I'm not trying to anti-debate you here, or say racial differences dont exist, just trying to say theres more to this than genetic race alone

[–]EuropeanAwakening14 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I think these are basically the last set of liberal copes before accepting race realism. You're at the phase of desperately trying to find any way to salvage liberal racial egalitarianism. Not meant as an insult, BTW. Just a natural phase we go through.

[–]Antarchomachus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You're not off the mark. I think I want to be able to justify my beliefs, and I want my beliefs to be consistent and without hypocrisy.

I do reject the 'Wokism' being perpetrated by the left - this kind of belief leads to more racism. I wouldn't say I want to salvage 'racial egalitarianism', but I would admit to being defensive about my racial 'colorblindness'. I just don't take it into account.

I realize we are at different ideological places - but I appreciate you guys making the effort to help me understand your point of view. I am sympathetic to the biodiversity arguments you make in favor of ethno-nationalism, I don't know that I'm in agreement, but see where you are coming from, and your position is more nuanced than 'because I am a bigot' which I assume the left would accuse you of.

Anyways, my beliefs are flexible, and sometimes they change when I learn new things. I have enjoyed discussing them with you guys.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You're not alone. There are many people who wanted to make sense of race before taking on absolute ethno-nationalist views.

I would recommend checking out American Renaissance. Jared Taylor is a 70 year old man who has a life long of experience talking about every faucet about race, in a very professional and moderate manner. He is also never afraid to debate these views in public, and does TV interviews when requested.

https://www.bitchute.com/channel/amrenaissance/

[–]Antarchomachus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks for the link, I'll give this a watch.