Besides Egypt, is there a single most powerful civilization with Brown skin color?

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[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

But other wise, the Indian race has never been a world power.

The northern kingdoms were too focused on staving off invasions and dealing with foreigners to really go beyond trade relations, Indian goods were very coveted in the ancient world though, and India as a whole had a huge economic output. The Chola Empire specifically managed to colonize all of Southeast Asia and to this day there are countless temples remaining, and the Thai monarchy still uses ceremonies passed down from that era.

And of course, look at India today? They're worse off than when the British tried to tame them.

If the Brits left it in the hands of the old monarchies as previously planned it would've been minimum Arab tier if not rivalling Asian powers.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Can you give me an example of what these Indians goods are?

It's like saying Mali was a world power because Mansa Musa had a lot of gold. It's technically correct, but without the Africans ever investing their wealth in cutting edge technology, they were going to be eclipsed by a more advanced civilization sooner or later. Which did happen. France came in and made them their colony.

If the Brits left it in the hands of the old monarchies as previously planned it would've been minimum Arab tier if not rivalling Asian powers.

What did the monarchies have to do with making India a more competitive nation? A country like Russia proves that even when Whites are ruled by destructive and seemingly backwards governments, it still hasn't stopped them from dominating at the sciences or military technology.

India today is obviously in a much better position than 1930s Russia was, yet who still has the better status symbol? People feared that a man like Stalin could somehow enslave all of Europe, meanwhile, nobody really cares what goes on in India, even when they have their little spats with Pakistan and China.

[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Can you give me an example of what these Indians goods are?

Damascus steel was actually forged in India for example, along with we exported many luxury goods and apparently our hounds were famed in Greece.

What did the monarchies have to do with making India a more competitive nation?

The key to understanding India is realizing that it's a country made by its aristocracy and weighed down by its peasantry. Modern India is a regime specifically designed to prevent the advancement of the aristocratic lines while taking their wealth.

India today is obviously in a much better position than 1930s Russia was, yet who still has the better status symbol? People feared that a man like Stalin could somehow enslave all of Europe, meanwhile, nobody really cares what goes on in India

Who cares about popularity lmao

even when they have their little spats with Pakistan and China

That they mogged Pakistan continuously after the 60s despite the Pakis having American equipment and managed to hold back China after the 60s despite inferior equipment there as well, not to mention the political hamstringing of the army is proof that the spirit of India's nobility has remained strong. The genetic and spiritual component of the Indian army is its only advantage.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

The key to understanding India is realizing that it's a country made by its aristocracy and weighed down by its peasantry. Modern India is a regime specifically designed to prevent the advancement of the aristocratic lines while taking their wealth.

If a group of complete outsiders [Brits] could enter the country and declare themselves as rulers, then I'm at a loss why the actual Indian upper class refuse to do the same in their own country. Maybe instead of leaving the country mass, wealthy Indians could actually stay and attempt to retake the government.

Who cares about popularity lmao

Popular might be the wrong word. But posing as a geographical threat or competitor is not.

That they mogged Pakistan continuously after the 60s despite the Pakis having American equipment and managed to hold back China after the 60s despite inferior equipment there as well, not to mention the political hamstringing of the army is proof that the spirit of India's nobility has remained strong. The genetic and spiritual component of the Indian army is its only advantage.

Good on India. Now how about they prove their superiority by having a gdp per capita that's higher than $2,000?

[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

If a group of complete outsiders [Brits] could enter the country and declare themselves as rulers

That's not how that worked at all, it was a very complex series of events and a huge part of it is that the Brits had an advantage thanks to the near unlimited financing they secured through the Jews. Still took multiple drawn out conflicts to annex what they had. Even when they declared the Raj after 1857 they didn't directly rule that much land.

I'm at a loss why the actual Indian upper class refuse to do the same in their own country. Maybe instead of leaving the country mass, wealthy Indians could actually stay and attempt to retake the government.

The ones who leave are mainly doing so to escape affirmative action and potential forced intermarriage for their children, along with the danger of more wealth redistribution. The trouble with retaking it is that a huge portion of the nobility "drank the koolaid" so to speak with respect to the secularist egalitarian ideals of the Independence movement. Currently India has had a resurgence away from those ideals but the ones in charge are still egalitarians in a different change of clothes. Recently several kids shitposting about caste and muslims got arrested, so it seems that conflict is heating up. It'll be interesting to see where that is by 2050.

Popular might be the wrong word. But posing as a geographical threat or competitor is not.

Too many internal barriers, civil war is needed.

Good on India. Now how about they prove their superiority by having a gdp per capita that's higher than $2,000?

You'd need to completely liquidate every single institution in the post 1947 India before that happens lol, and millions will need to die. Can't wait. Would return to fight if a civil war broke out.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

That's not how that worked at all, it was a very complex series of events and a huge part of it is that the Brits had an advantage thanks to the near unlimited financing they secured through the Jews. Still took multiple drawn out conflicts to annex what they had. Even when they declared the Raj after 1857 they didn't directly rule that much land.

I forgot to mention there where other European powers who manage to control India. France, Portugal & I believe the Dutch as well.

If those guys were willing to fight complex wars over it (and they obviously won in the end), then I have no sympathy for Indians who refuse to do the same.

The ones who leave are mainly doing so to escape affirmative action and potential forced intermarriage for their children, along with the danger of more wealth redistribution. The trouble with retaking it is that a huge portion of the nobility "drank the koolaid" so to speak with respect to the secularist egalitarian ideals of the Independence movement. Currently India has had a resurgence away from those ideals but the ones in charge are still egalitarians in a different change of clothes. Recently several kids shitposting about caste and muslims got arrested, so it seems that conflict is heating up. It'll be interesting to see where that is by 2050.

That's not my problem. There are people who want to flee Afghanistan because they hate the Taliban. Even though they had 20 years and billions in foreign aid to actually do something about them.

Still doesn't mean I want to take these people in, or they have exclusive access to our countries. Either find somewhere else or go back and fight for your homeland.

Too many internal barriers, civil war is needed.

Then hopefully they know what's coming next if they care about their future.

You'd need to completely liquidate every single institution in the post 1947 India before that happens lol, and millions will need to die. Can't wait. Would return to fight if a civil war broke out.

See above.

History is filled with numerous examples of wars being fought to regain control of something. The best advice I'm giving Indians right now is they need to stop being scared and ignore the status quo. Trust me, we would all be better off in the long run vs watching the frog boil slowly.

[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I forgot to mention there where other European powers who manage to control India. France, Portugal & I believe the Dutch as well.

They only controlled tiny provinces where they had assistance from the local Jewish and Christian population. The Brits were the only ones that fought the big wars.

Still doesn't mean I want to take these people in, or they have exclusive access to our countries. Either find somewhere else or go back and fight for your homeland.

Well then maybe you should do something about all the kikes cutting us huge checks on your end. Whites emigrate for money and opportunity, it's the same here. You can't blame anyone for taking advantage of it really. I wouldn't blame anyone for trying to stop it either. It goes both ways doesn't it?

The best advice I'm giving Indians right now is they need to stop being scared and ignore the status quo. Trust me, we would all be better off in the long run vs watching the frog boil slowly.

Agree wholeheartedly. I believe the majority of the upper class who are aware of things are moving in the same direction. Almost all of them refuse to emigrate to avoid the degeneracy in the West. Ball is rolling slowly.

Hope you guys take your own advice as well.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Well then maybe you should do something about all the kikes cutting us huge checks on your end. Whites emigrate for money and opportunity, it's the same here. You can't blame anyone for taking advantage of it really. I wouldn't blame anyone for trying to stop it either. It goes both ways doesn't it?

Do you mean Whites moving to other White countries? There's nothing wrong with that.

If Whites are moving to Brown or Black countries than I would give them the same advice. Don't run away from your own people, take charge of them instead.

[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Referring to whites working in Gulf countries and elsewhere for increased salaries at a lower tax rate. It's the same deal for high IQ immigrants to the US. People are paying them to come, and if they're not dedicated to a political/militant cause and the benefits are higher than the costs they take that deal.

Permanent emigration to the US seems to be on the decline though and I don't think the West is as aspirational as it used to be for emigrants.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I would disown those people quickly. I personally want nothing to do with Israel and all its Oil baron neighbors.

If those White people go there, they are taking a huge risk by living in a majority Islamic country, that is quite hostile to Christians or Atheists.

Permanent emigration to the US seems to be on the decline though and I don't think the West is as aspirational as it used to be for emigrants.

There's still too much people moving there. Especially the illegal immigrants who flood through the border or let their work visas expire.

It's the same deal for high IQ immigrants to the US. People are paying them to come,

It's all a ruse. They only pay them because they get to exploit them as slave labor.

That money should be used for raising wages only, not depressing them.