I feel like China is the one that's actually playing 4D chess

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[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Your fixation on hating Hitler is really odd. It's clear from your post you realise the situations of the Third Reich and contemporary China aren't even close to comparable yet you have the like red face meme guy urge to randomly declare you're not an evil Hitler worshipping nazi every 3 seconds. Really weird man.

[–]YJaewedwqewqClerical Fascist 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I agree his fervor is a bit much, but I do agree with him in the issue that Hitler made multiple blunders early on. I greatly admire Hitler for many reasons, but being a good commander and tactician isn't one of those reasons. He was great at leading the charge, but not at deciding when to do so. There are a plethora of reasons why many of Hitler's generals distrusted and disliked him, and the large and oft-referenced reason of him constantly getting in the way and causing military blunders is probably the most valid.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

They disliked him because he took their caste privileges from them, that's why they sabotaged the war effort betraying their own blood and soil. It's also why they continually tried to kill him.

They were subhuman inbred 'aristocrats' who should've been dealt with the way the bolsheviks deal with such degenerate anti-national trash. Hitler's only blunder was not listening to the people who foresaw just how insanely petty and spiteful aristocrats would be.

[–]YJaewedwqewqClerical Fascist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

They were also the best generals in the world, for the most part, and had generations of military tradition and experience backing them up. Look at how well the Great Purge worked for the commies: it didn't. It fucked them over and only extremely desperate and fortuitous actions saved their asses, along with German shortsightedness.

These "subhuman inbred aristocrats" were the only reason Germany existed in the first place despite competing with multiple superpowers and being the target of nigh-unstoppable foes (more than 1, on occasion). To say these diehard nationalists "betrayed the nation" or "sabotaged the war effort" is completely nonsensical, because even though they disliked or even hated Hitler they still diligently fought under him until they couldn't anymore.

Hitler's only blunder was not listening to the people who foresaw just how insanely petty and spiteful aristocrats would be.

Hitler's blunder was misplacing his trust in general. I would agree that the aristocracy were petty and spiteful, but in matters of great national importance such qualities are important.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They're no good when they're all traitors

These "subhuman inbred aristocrats" were the only reason Germany existed in the first place despite competing with multiple superpowers and being the target of nigh-unstoppable foes (more than 1, on occasion). To say these diehard nationalists "betrayed the nation" or "sabotaged the war effort" is completely nonsensical, because even though they disliked or even hated Hitler they still diligently fought under him until they couldn't anymore.

Didn't happen. They constantly sabotaged the war effort, did their own thing disobeying orders (to the detriment of the strategy) and attempted to kill Hitler and other stupid shit. They were all self interested degenerates.