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[–]MosheCircumshteynRabbi Moshe Schlomo Circumshteyn of Tel Avi 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Notice how practically everything involving Antifa and the Proud Boys is 'fake and gay'?

Antifa is a Republican front and fake Left-wing organization mobilized to prevent Biden and the Democrats from winning the election by committing all of this destruction in the Left's name. This makes us look bad and so the Republicans will have a better shot at winning the election. But it also must be defended from Republicans who bizarrely want to declare their own front a domestic terrorist organization. We should prevent Antifa from being banned by claiming that Antifa is 'only an idea' and that ideas cannot be banned. Except that White nationalism, fascism and to a lesser extent Jihadist brands of Islam are also ideas... and... oh yeah... they can be banned. But just ignore this inconvenient fact and obvious hypocrisy and keep believing that Antifa is 'just an idea' and that it cannot be declared terroristic for that very reason.

Also, Trump and the Republicans are Far-Right White Supremacists. They planned a coup with a Far-Right White Supremacist group called the Proud Boys... except that... just ignore the inconvenient fact that they have an Afro-Cuban leader and are almost majority-non-white themselves. Also ignore the fact that they only number a few thousand at most and wouldn't be able to seize anywhere near the whole United States. Anyway, just believe me, they were plotting with Trump to bring about a Far-Right White Supremacist neo-Nazi Fourth Reich with Trump as the Fuhrer.

Everything about these two organizations is a joke. Even if you take what they really are once you look past the obviously fake narrative, they're still a joke.

Antifa is an organization (complete with chapters, chapter leaders, membership lists, etc.) and not an 'idea', comprised of lumpen degens who think the Democrats are approaching 'fascism' and that the Republicans are literally the American NSDAP. Their goal is to prevent the realization of this non-existent fascism wherever they operate. They aren't Republican or Democrat controlled. The Democrats are highly sympathetic to their intentions but find some of their actions embarrassing and/or misguided; the Republicans view them more correctly as domestic terrorists trying to build a Soyviet Soycialist Republic. The CHAZ/CHOP was something of an abysmally failed experiment to build something of this nature—totally unable to reach self-sufficiency, totally reliant on the United States for electricity and other necessities, several murders occurred there, etc.

The Proud Boys are simply a civic nationalist outfit with bad optics and have nothing to do with the Far-Right in any meaningful sense. Years ago they had a black member who was obsessed about how he wanted to kill 'neo-Nazis', who was covered in tattoos and who in his social media photos frequently posed with guns pointed at the camera, often captioned with threats directed at 'neo-Nazis'. Yeah, a real Far-Right White supremacist Aryan ubermensch right there. These people are about 1788 and not 1488. Antifa is about 'the current year' (i.e. soy-fuelled AIDS-ridden pozz), though they LARP as though they were in 1917.