Blackpill content is a form of psychological warfare and rightists should be extremely wary of it.

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[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

There has never been a war where the army thought they themselves are the enemy, as whites now think of themselves. What if in the war on ISIS the US army attacked itself, claiming that was the highest moral good, and then attacked you if you tried to convince them of their fault? That would be a problem of stupidity and treachery. Yet that is what whites are doing to themselves. Such a problem would have to be articulated in order to be solved.

What is your solution to this?

I experience many white people giving resistance to white nationalism every day. They will insult, threaten, deplatform, get you fired from your job, etc. in order for the white race to die.

All of those people think they are just deplatoforming and firing a 'racist' they don't think they are killing the white race. That's quite hyperbolic to think that.

There is case to be made that whites deserve most of the blame for this anti-whiteism.

I don't really understand what you mean by this. Please expand on this. How are whites to blame for anti whitism?? Anti whitism is clearly pushed by jews. Even progressive white don't really openly push anti white slogans and phrases unless really pushed into it. They normally let other non whites and Jews do the anti white stuff. Much of the anti white stuff is often framed in a way that a progressive liberal doesn't really see it as evil. It just seems like anti colonialism and other 'restorative justice' type ideas. I'm really curious as to your explanation for how whites, as a group, are responsible.

[–]peaceful✞ 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You told me I have to respond to why I'm not a shill or be banned. That's the problem, if a shill calls a prowhite a shill you get anxious and start banning the accused. Only two people called me a shill, and shilldetector calls everyone he disagrees with a shill. This thread already explains why I'm not a shill. Calling people shills who have never said anything untrue or anti-white is the real demoralization.

What is your solution to this?

In most threads I've discussed the white problem I've also posted how to fix it, that of massive distribution of propaganda. We got in this mess through (television) propaganda so it follows we could fix it the same way.

All of those people think they are just deplatoforming and firing a 'racist' they don't think they are killing the white race

Not all, but I agree many don't know it, yet destroying the white race is still the effect they are having.

Please expand on this. How are whites to blame for anti whitism?? Anti whitism is clearly pushed by jews. Even progressive white don't
really openly push anti white slogans and phrases unless really pushed into it. They normally let other non whites and Jews do the anti white stuff. Much of the anti white stuff is often framed in a way that a progressive liberal doesn't really see it as evil. It just seems like anti colonialism and other 'restorative justice' type ideas. I'm really curious as to your explanation for how whites, as a group, are responsible.

This is the reason I think we need to reach whites with propaganda. They alone ultimately determine their destiny. Have you watched television in the last 40 years? It is full of whites espousing/propagandizing anti-racism, and anti-racism is a code word for anti-white. Most whites have this vociferous anti-racism that convinces them to oppose the alt-right. I think 90% of whites disagree with the alt-right according to a recent poll you probably recall. Even the conservative right supports white erasure/white genocide precisely because of their anti-racism. Fox News is fully on board with unlimited immigration and forced diversity, and I personally experience that whites on the internet reflect what whites on tv think perfectly.

As I said, the main point of my thread was to prove the people on DAE aren't having success in waking up whites, and for the most part I think I proved it. But I also wanted to vent. Overall this issue of the white problem is of primary importance to saving the white race, that's why I feel justified in debating the altright about the severity of it even if I am attacked for it.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's the problem, if a shill calls a prowhite a shill you get anxious and start banning the accused.

That's a divisive comment. Multiple people have asked you to provide more answer oriented posts. I've reviewed your post history as well.

This thread already explains why I'm not a shill

You didn't do a very good job.

Calling people shills who have never said anything untrue or anti-white is the real demoralization.

One of the common attacks on our spaces are 'demoralization attacks'. People come in an post as much negative content as possible. They don't ask questions. They don't pose solutions. They never comment in other threads. They just attack, attack, attack with endless pessimism, negativity and tactical nihilism. You've done it very subtly here again with your 'I've discussed the 'white problem'' framing.

They alone ultimately determine their destiny

You keep using 'they' are you not white?

This is the reason I think we need to reach whites with propaganda

Lazy and overly generalized point. We do not control the 'television' and nobody really watches television anymore. Everyone under 40 is a cord cutter. We talk about Jewish control over media production all the time yet you never bring them up.

I think 90% of whites disagree with the alt-right according to a recent poll you probably recall.

Alt right views are in the minority put it's a LOT higher then 10% and with the right framing the majority of whites probably agree with many of our points. Maybe not all but many.

It is full of whites espousing/propagandizing anti-racism, and anti-racism is a code word for anti-white. Most whites have this vociferous anti-racism that convinces them to oppose the alt-right. I think 90% of whites disagree with the alt-right according to a recent poll you probably recall. Even the conservative right supports white erasure/white genocide precisely because of their anti-racism.

Everyone on this sub is already VERY familiar with these points.

As I said, the main point of my thread was to prove the people on DAE aren't having success in waking up whites,

It's "DAR" which stand for debate alt right. Our sub isn't a propaganda outlet. We are a debate group. If we wake people ups it's one at a time through a slow process or rationalization, evidence and appeal to common sense morality. There's really no way to track how many people we are waking up with this sub so your claim that we are 'failing' is just another demoralization.

Regardless of if you are genuine or not I think you've misrepresented yourself and you also need some time to reflect on what you really believe. If you are genuine spend some time away from DAR looking for solutions and reading about action and solution oriented people. You have a 2 week ban. If you come back to dar please present all your negative arguments and claims in one thread every other week or so. Do not sit day in and day out sniping and demoralizing. If you do not follow that recommendation you will be banned permanently.

Your ban will start tomorrow morning. You can respond publicly to this comment if you'd like.